Bakemonogatari

[shinta|hikari]

Yes!!! @ the ending comment.

Did they choose that ED song because the story ending had that (fantastic, awesome, orgasmic) part? Or did they put it in the anime because of the (fantastic, awesome, orgasmic) ED song? I mean, they even mentioned the Summer Triangle in the show, which is a central theme in the song.

That episode made me laugh and cry in the span of a few minutes. The words that came from Hitagi hold so much more weight because of her character. She is tsundere-chan after all, with tons of actual pride to boot, so her lines pertaining to giving her everything to Araragi was just so powerful.

Her harsh nature has finally been rounded out with the character development in this episode. She plans to give Araragi everything, even exposing her weakness and lack of confidence as she enumerated all that she can possibly provide, an incredible feat for someone like her.

I fear that trying to analyze the awesomeness of this episode (for me) is simply futile, so I will end it with I love Hitagi-san.

EDIT: I also loved how cute Hitagi-san was with her plan of using her father to force Araragi to call her using her first name. I have come to dislike or get bored of tsunderes as of late, but this was just cold and fantastic.

[Buffalobiian]

Yes!!! @ the ending comment.

Did they choose that ED song because the story ending had that (fantastic, awesome, orgasmic) part? Or did they put it in the anime because of the (fantastic, awesome, orgasmic) ED song? I mean, they even mentioned the Summer Triangle in the show, which is a central theme in the song.

I'd expect the song to follow the anime/light novel, but I'm not sure.

EDIT: I also loved how cute Hitagi-san was with her plan of using her father to force Araragi to call her using her first name. I have come to dislike or get bored of tsunderes as of late, but this was just cold and fantastic.

And not returning the gesture was just as lovably evil.

Her dad was a very good device as it covered the mushy stuff about how much Araragi meant to Hitagi without her saying it, leaving her to finish with short&sharp punchlines.

If I had anything to complain about this episode, it's that they didn't animate Dad's jaw movement when it should be seen. Again, it's excusable as he's been portrayed as a very rigid character who probably isn't the best at communicating.

[shinta|hikari]

If I had anything to complain about this episode, it's that they didn't animate Dad's jaw movement when it should be seen. Again, it's excusable as it he's been portrayed as a very rigid character who probably isn't the best at communicating.

I didn't notice that at all. Good catch. I probably attributed the lack of movement to the dad being all mysterious, with the shadows and lack of facial exposure.

If I had to complain about anything, it would be about Hitagi-san's hairstyle at the start of the episode. It wasn't bad per se, but it just didn't suit her much.

[Nadouku]

"Father, Araragi is talking to you."

A very Senjougahara-centered episode (I still prefer to call her by that since I'm used to it), although the title of the episode kind of threw me off (Tsubasa Cat, Part Two). Anyway, I like how Senjougahara phrased her "date" line in many different ways and forced Araragi to call her by her first name.

[Marik]

[gg]​ Bakemonogatari​ -​ 12​ [4F8856B0].mkv

[Yukimura]

Well that came out of left field for me, I was hoping for more of Tsubasa Cat and Hanekawa. I'll just have to hope the DVD eps finish Hanekawa's story. I've never been much of a fan of Senjogahara as a human being (as opposed to an embodiment of tsundere character traits) but she came close to making me feel for her like an actual person when she mentioned the rape thing again. Still, I suspect I'm in that 99% group Araragi mentioned that would have just left her and her issues alone. I must admit I'm strangely happy for her and Araragi though, he seems like a good match for her.

[shinta|hikari]

I think Hanekawa has her own novel (Nekomonogatari or something), so that might come in the future seasons (hopefully). I'm betting Hanekawa and Shinobu will get a lot of screen time then.

[Buffalobiian]

Given the popularity, I'm pretty confident there'll be a second season to Bakemonogatari. There's content about Koyomi's own transformation as well as Karen Bee Arc amongst other ready-to-go material.

[Kraco]

It really was a marvelous last episode, finalising the series in a masterful way. After episode 11 I was hoping for some Senjougahara before the end, and then we got this (and I'm not talking to the dad). One of the best last episodes, no doubt. I didn't think that much of the ED when the series launched but I grew to gradually like it a lot, and now it ties together with such a powerful scene as the stargazing was. Exquisite integration.

Those two were really created for each other, right from the start: Senjougahara needed help and Araragi somebody to help. She sucks at relationships (at communications at least, certainly not in general like this ep showed) but he doesn't mind. I also have a feeling there will be the same manner of effect as between Rin and Shirou: Araragi needs someone with enough selfishness to keep him from sacrificing himself.

It was also nice to finally see for good that Araragi loves Senjougahara. You could feel it during the stargazing scene. During the earlier eps I didn't really get that kind of impression, more like Araragi just playing along not wanting to hurt her. I wasn't even sure he could love anybody in the man-woman kind of way.

[Pandadice]

w.. why? why did the episode end there?? it should've kept going! i want more D:.

for the first time in the series i was not disappointed with the lack of focus on oddities. maybe i didn't miss Hanekawa's cat story because i seriously was in no way interested in that, or maybe i didn't miss it because i really do like senjogahara as a character, and she hasn't been in an episode lately..

I'd say they paused the cat story, and went with this one because it's the last broadcasted episode.. so they wanted it to be the closing one, ending with their relationship. 13'll probably pick it back up. but i doubt 15 will be able to top this as an ending :\

yeah, senjogahara is such a great character. man, "i'm going to shatter your norms and standards". ahah, that was awesome!

and then she's like, "all i can give you are these stars". ahh this episode rocked!

[shinta|hikari]

The official stream date and time for episode 13 is not determined yet. It will be streamed at the website, so I fear for the quality we might be getting for the subbed versions. I hope that it streams soon though, like next weekend.

[fireheart]

Well most people already said most things about the episode so I'm just going to say that I really do like that piano piece. So if anyone knows the name of it and where to get it, I'd be most thankful.

[Buffalobiian]

Well most people already said most things about the episode so I'm just going to say that I really do like that piano piece. So if anyone knows the name of it and where to get it, I'd be most thankful.

That's just OP1 modified. I'd expect it to be called "Staple Stable ~Piano Ver." or something. Currently none of the Bakemonogatari OPs are out yet. Look out for singles and the OST, they'll likely be there.

Edit:

Original Soundtrack Vol.1 consisting of the BGM used throughout the show composed by Satoru Kousaki will be released with the Limited Edition of Tsubasa Cat Part A[Episodes 11-13, DVD Vol.5] on 27 Jan. 2010.

Meanwhile, you can entertain yourself with this if you have a keyboard:

[Board of Command]

One of the best series ever. Shaft has done it again.

[Death BOO Z]

let me get this straight...
there are three more episodes planned to be webcast?
and then a DVD release? or something else.


beautiful episode.
loved it, so much.

[shinta|hikari]

Yes, 3 more episodes to be webcast. I am checking the official website everyday for the schedule of the next episode release. I will post it here as soon as I find out.

[Buffalobiian]

Which subs are better to archive? DD or gg?

I just downloaded gg so I had an excuse to rewatch that episode, and there were quite a few differences.

gg good points: subbed frames/songs. Kanbaru = Junior.
bad points: Cropped video means subs overlap with picture. Calm/Phrasing?

DD good points: Sentences are phrased better, Subs don't block picture most of the time
bad points: Spelling mistakes, Kanbaru = Senior, ambiguous phrasing as to what Hitagi is "doing something" about (answer = her fear of sex). panels & songs aren't translated.

Perhaps the biggest difference is Araragi's comment after Hitagi still ends up phrasing her requests in a demanding manner.

DD: In the end, that's how you phrase it.
gg: In the end, you're still so calm.

[shinta|hikari]

DD is the correct version of that line, I think. I have to rewatch to be certain. The fear of sex part is supposed to ambiguous, at least it seems that way in Japanese.

[Pandadice]

DD is the correct version of that line, I think. I have to rewatch to be certain. The fear of sex part is supposed to ambiguous, at least it seems that way in Japanese.

well that'd make sense. it's always like that when they talk about it in anime.

it's always "this and that" type of wording.. at least, the subs always say that stuff.

[Buffalobiian]

I've reached the decision to check out AniKat and Koharubi when they're done. This episode (and series) is definitely too good for subs to ruin it.

(edit: AniKat can't QC their site)

No offense to our speedsub groups. We can't ask for everything.