That is what makes Bakemonogatari so good IMO. It has really long conversations, but manages to keep it interesting and worth the time, since it develops the characters as well. The shower scene before was similarly long, and they did pretty much the same thing (talk).
Maybe the fanservice distracted people long enough to not notice the length before.
Peace.
i agree, this was similar to the shower scene. it was basically the same as the shower scene. however that scene didn't go on for as long, and I already sat through it. so since i already had to sit through a shorter version of the same conversation, it was annoying seeing the exact same thing in this episode..Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
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I haven't gotten bored of their conversations, and I can't see it happening any time soon. It's just entertaining.
Rather, it's hard for me to make the decision of whether or not to pause at the random SHAFT-ish words/pics that flash onto the screen every so often. It's so quirky and detailed it feels wasted to let it flash by without knowing exactly what was on it.
Pausing it to read the typesetting breaks the flow though, and I wouldn't have expected even native readers watching TV to have caught all the detail there is to know every single time.
Despite the detail, it's almost like you're not meant to analyse it, but to get the impression, and move on.
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I wonder if shaft is trying this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_message
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Probably not, since subliminal messages are supposed to be subliminal.
We are definitely aware of the text/messages, we just don't have enough time to read them unless we pause it. Really fast readers might actually be able to without pausing.
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At times, like in Zetsubo sensei, some of the panels may not even be readable, because there are so many of them and they accelerate them.
So it's true that it's not subliminal since we know there are panels, but at least there are panels we might see but can't decipher before we pause them.I don't know how we could name the time lapse you need to pause, go back to the frame and actually read it.
When not too much used, it's nice at times.
In that ep, I stopped pausing. From what I understood, it was just to highlight some of the statements the two were making.
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When stuff like this happens, I actually cope better in 480p instead of 720p, since the whole frame is within my focus so I can take in the words better.
It helps when I see the entire screen at once like a snapshot, rather than slightly panning (the eyes) to read the subs, despite the whole screen still being within my field of vision.
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While those are technically not subliminal messages, they may function in a similar manner. I personally don't go out of my way to read any of them. They are probably not meant to be read by the normal viewer anyway. It may be some marketing tactic to force Japanese fans to buy the DVDs just so they can read the text.
Peace.
Follow up to follow ups to my comments: I don't see Araragi as a victim so much as a passive but willing catalyst to reveal Senjougahara's character. It's her character, or at least the character trait of being a constant teaser, which I have mixed feelings about. I like her teasing for the lulz it generates and how it makes her interesting to listen to, but at the same time I don't like the idea of approving of teasing as a primary means of self-expression on principle. What I'd love to see would be Araragi throwing more crap back her way and them getting into an epic flame war.
I'm thinking Araragi will slowly manage that as he starts to learn how to tame the tsundere. If nhe manages to understand Senjougahara better, and maybe capture her affections in a deeper way, he might get the upper hand.
Peace.
Conquering Senjougahara...I'd love to watch that.
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Senjougahara hating kids, eh? Other than that, looks like Araragi is guiding a "lost snail", but after this problem is solved, I wonder what other oddity will he encounter next?
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The stapler strikes back!!
Given how Hanekawa seems to know this Tsunade person, I'm guessing it's to do with her.
The PTA typo was funny. I thought gg did it, but it turns out to be the producers.
It wasn't nearly as fun to watch as last episode though. Senjogahara not taking the spotlight just isn't the same.
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i liked this episode better than last weeks.. because it seemed like stuff happened.
oh, and that OP seemed so out of character for this series..
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Stuff = phone talk, walk & talk, sit & talk, phone talk v2, kid-bash, stand & talk.
There was arguably more physical movement this episode, but the whole story is still based on conversation.
This episode shone more light into what exactly the issue in this arc is, but it was certainly slightly disappointing for Senjogahara fans.
edit: maybe not disappointing, just not as satisfying a dose of Senjogahara-verbal-assaults. The stapler partially made up for it though.
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yeah, lots of talking but it had more characters in it. it brought back that priest guy, who i like as a character.
exactly, that's something i hated about last weeks episode. the lack of physical movement. I mean, I like the abstractness the show displays, but you've gotta have some actual animation in there sometime.There was arguably more physical movement this episode, but the whole story is still based on conversation.
exactly. it was story progressing. whats disappointing about it? if all you're looking for from this series is Senjogahara to bad talk and get 75% of the screen, without anything story-wise actually happening, then you and me are definitely not going to agree on what a "good episode" is.This episode shone more light into what exactly the issue in this arc is, but it was certainly slightly disappointing for Senjogahara fans.
edit: maybe not disappointing, just not as satisfying a dose of Senjogahara-verbal-assaults. The stapler partially made up for it though.
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I didn't say the progression was disappointing. I said it was "slightly disappointing for Senjogahara fans."
Senjogahara alone doesn't make the series (who's she going to talk to? Herself?). To me, she's enjoyable to watch. Story progression is also welcome.
Due to limited screentime, sometimes you'll have to trade one for the other. In this case, I didn't find "looking for Tsunade-mama" quite as enjoyable as a date with Senjogahara.
Note that I used nearly in my first post, slightly in my second and quite just above. It's not like I'm put off by it.
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thats why I said 75% in my first post, the other 25% was saved for araragi :\
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