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    That under the tatami angle was mean... and lets me think she wasn't 5 kg only due to the pounding sound she makes while walking.

    Also I don't know if she had lost her weight for a long time (or don't remember), but if she did, she should have had a schock when getting it back. As much as the guy suddenly jumping from 55 to 100kg.

    The mood change, well I was a bit annoyed at first. Depends on the quality of the show from now on.
    Anyways, I prefer the class rep for the moment, eventhough her screen time was short.

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    Class rep? No way, Senjogahara all the way!!

    I'm here hoping for some potential romance between the two, so a change in personality isn't at all unwelcome. It just means no more spiteful comments and stapler attacks It would have been better if she was nicer to him, but not nice

    While I do think Hitagi will make recurring appearances, I wouldn't think it'd be consistent. For one, they're bound to they'd better show the episodes where Araragi was a vampire.

    The ending was well done, wrapping everything up in this 2-episode arc. The costume change accented that.
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    I don't think the mystical weight change affects the user's perception of their body. It only changes their body's weight externally, in relation to their environment. So they shouldn't really feel any different, I think. Otherwise, the guy shouldn't even be able to move properly after doubling his body weight.

    I am definitely going to miss the attitude and fanservice from Stapler girl. I hope that the succeeding characters that they will encounter prove to be just as interesting.
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    thought that episode was just as good as the first one. if we're taking a poll, then yeah, Senjogahara over class rep, mos def. wonder what was wrong with the class rep that she had to go see the guy for?

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    I really liked the scene where they both were on the playground, shuffling through alot of its equipments while chatting their usuals. Other than that, looks like another girl has shown up. I wonder if this will slowly turn into an haremesque like Sayonara, Zetsubo Sensei?
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    are those subs good? or should i wait for gg

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    They were decent enough to watch, but if you're in for archiving bits, then go for gg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandadice
    are those subs good? or should i wait for gg
    I'd anwer a No.
    Why?
    Timing wasn't very sharp.
    Also, I think I detected vague translations, or words not translated with a much simplistic phrase, when those words seem to hold interresting meaning to understand the context.

    This episode seems to be very heavy in play on words, this looks like some kind of battle in sharp words. So there's a need for perfect timing and genius translation to be able to be at least true to the intentions of the author.

    I'll maybe try gg, but since it was so tiring watching that ep, I may not.

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    *yawn* so we got to watch two kids talk at a park for a half hour while the screen cycled through colorful abstract images.

    this episode seemed to drag so much.. it better pick it up and do something with the series or this is just gonna be really boring..

    this seems more like a Shaft showcase of animation abilities than an actual anime series.

    but hey, it is only episode 3, so I probably just need to give it more time.

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    [Superior] translations were crap compared to gg.

    I'll keep that in mind for future eps.

    Depending on what they choose as a relationship for those 2, and how the action evolves, this episode will be full of useful material.

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    I admit there was little action (what's there to admit, anyway...), but I enjoyed the episode quite a lot nonetheless. Even if one of the best parts easily was the only action part of Araragi beating the lost girl. It's not easy to write lots of dialogue like that, so I have to give kudos to the author.

    Naturally the single fact that made me very happy was Senjogahara still being here and still having the same kind of personality, even if slightly mellowed by the gratitude. I wish Araragi actually had asked for something, though, because it could have been interesting and moreover if somebody really wants to give you something, it's not polite to refuse. And I don't mean anything that would have ended their relationship - whatever that relationship might be.

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    I loved the tsundere roundabout conversation Senjougahara initiated, when in the end she only wanted him to ask her to be his girlfriend. The last part was not as subtle as the rest, but it seems it would take that much for dense Araragi to at least get a gist of what is happening.
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    Boring? I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Senjogahara's the bomb this season hands down.
    Her sharp tongue, tone and strange antics remind me of C.C.

    I found the funniest part to be where she's telling him about her willingness to repay him despite Araragi spinning her around in a slave-like fashion.

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    Nice </pseudo-sarcasm> to see Senjogahara back to her initial self. While part of me enjoys witnessing the confrontational and derogatory behavior Senjogahara exudes another part of me can't help but feel like Araragi-kun doesn't deserve that sort of treatment. It kind of annoys me that he has to sit there and take it and if he tries to do anything to shut her up he'll just get trash talked more. While he did bring it on himself for bothering to help her out it still rubs me wrong that she tends to act like she has the moral high-ground in most of her trash talking.

    I had especially bad feelings about her 'I want to repay you by doing anything you ask so pick something' set up. As Kraco mentioned, when someone does something like that, it puts a lot of pressure on the person receiving the offer to ask for something. When you combine that with Senjougahara's love of making fun of Araragi it seems like her 'repayment ' is just a way to force Araragi into a trap so she can rub his face in even more dirt. He can't not accept or else she might act hurt that he's rejecting her appreciation. At the same time, no matter what he asks he for she can and probably would make fun of him for it it, act hurt by the idea of him asking for it, or make some snide comment about what his request says about him. I really dislike when stories set up 'choose how you want to be tortured' scenarios for people who haven't done anything wrong and are just being fucked with by a jerk.

    Finally, if all the chatter in this ep was a just ploy for Senjougahara to get Araragi to say he wanted to date her because she wants to date him but doesn't want to ask then I'd be pretty ticked off with her character. If she wants to play games she should go find someone who will play games back but Araragi seems unwilling to play the insult game at her level. I would much rather she screw with him for her own lulz then she screw with him because she's too weak and emotionally messed up to be forthright about her feelings.
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    I actually think she's screwing with him for her own lulz. She even acknowledges that he's got a high tolerance. Whatever "high tolerance" might mean, I think it's fair to say they both have an idea of what each other's character is like.

    If you count what she said in episode 2, where she wanted him to be her friend, then my conclusion is that all this teasing isn't enough to make Araragi have any genuine negative feelings (like say, self esteem issues from being called a virgin), and Senjogahara knows it.

    Whether or not that's unfairly taking advantage of him is subjective I guess.

    Regarding "Araragi seems unwilling to play the insult game at her level", I don't think he minded that much at all, as long as she's around. They've already established the fact he likes her.

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    He can't not accept or else she might act hurt that he's rejecting her appreciation.
    Isn't that what happened when he didn't appreciate her generous post-shower fanservice?
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    I agree with Buff. Araragi is not as much of a victim as he seems. If he really feels that bad about it, he could have just stood up and left. Yet, he even told Senjougahara to wait while he tries to help the loli, obviously because he wants to spend time with her. This is because he likes her (as a friend, right now) and nothing else.

    It is better not to take their bantering seriously. A lot of people I know say such horrible things to each other, but because they have an understanding of each others personalities, the "insults" are considered simple verbal fencing rather than intentionally hurtful remarks.

    In short, they are having fun, despite how it looks on the outside.
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    This is a fantastic series. Shaft really got its A-game on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    It is better not to take their bantering seriously. A lot of people I know say such horrible things to each other, but because they have an understanding of each others personalities, the "insults" are considered simple verbal fencing rather than intentionally hurtful remarks.

    In short, they are having fun, despite how it looks on the outside.
    which is why i said it's two kids causally talking at a park, doing nothing. i figured her attitude is in jest, and that araragi figures that too. so they're just kinda chatting about nothing at a park for a half hour.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandadice
    which is why i said it's two kids causally talking at a park, doing nothing. i figured her attitude is in jest, and that araragi figures that too. so they're just kinda chatting about nothing at a park for a half hour.....
    aka flirting.

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