If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
This episode was pretty confusing with the scenes where her memories were integrating/overriding with her synesthesia, but once Maria described Canaan as a baby, it started to make a lot more sense. She relies too much on her senses, and too much on others (even as she saves them from danger or works for them).
Alphard is even hotter with her coat off.
I have very hard time understanding the relationship between Canaan and Maria. I'm far from sure they understand it even themselves. If Canaan indeed just needs to have a light, a person to love, then why was she being so gloomy with Maria right there? And what exactly is Maria's problem? That I understand even less. What exactly does she believe getting blown up will achieve for either of them?
Very confusing.
Confusing as hell, but the fights were pretty good.
From what I gathered, she believes by doing that she'll unlock Canaan's synesthesia. By doing so, she'll become "helpful" to somebody, which is something she never thought she could accomplish.Originally Posted by Kraco
The most memorable scene that episode was the nail breaking. Jamming the trigger with a thumb, which subsequently got crushed showed just how tense that fight was. I think I would have enjoyed it (the fight) a bit more had I not been trying to figure out everyone's motives at the same time.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Alphard is such a good fighter... makes me wonder where else she got her abilities from.
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episode was kinda good. i'm wondering how they're gonna draw it to a close
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In the end, Alphard's objective is to overcome her (and Siam's) despair by defeating the synesthesia soldier Canaan. Is that the conclusion everyone else came to?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I don't know about that. Alphard's objective is a vague one because she could have killed Canaan already a number of times but felt she wasn't good enough yet to be taken seriously. Maybe it indeed is to defeat an übermensch, but I think more concretically it could be to witness such a thing even exists in the first place - or doesn't exist proving Siam wrong (and making Alphard already the best there can be).
Alphard wants to kill the complete version of Canaan. Right now, Canaan is supposedly incomplete, and the despair she will feel after Maria dies will allow her to reach her maximum state, like Alphard has already reached hers. That is the same reason why Alphard killed Siam.
Alphard probably believes it is meaningless to defeat Canaan before she reaches her peak, since that would not release her (Alphard) from her despair. Part of her despair is in knowing that she has reached her limit, and that there is someone who can supposedly overcome that given time and the right catalyst.
Peace.
From what I got out of the conversation, people like Canaan cause despair. They cause it on the battlefield because while plenty of other soldiers and mercenaries are strong, experienced, and skilled in battle, people like Canaan with her amplified synesthesia are not so much opponents and rivals but more like gods or forces of nature.
Alphard wants to prove Siam wrong by beating Canaan at her peak because it would mean that Siam was wrong about that, and with hard work, people like Alphard can beat that 'unstoppable' force of nature.
It's not the despair of losing Maria that will drive Canaan to her peak, that would break and weaken her like Siam's actual death caused before. The threat of losing Maria will make Canaan desperate, and if she's pushed far enough, she will overcome the anger-blinded failure she was in the bathroom, and achieve that peak. A Zen sort of concentration.
Alphard just wants to prove that she can beat a near-supernatural force, prove Siam's statement about how the two of them can never be the best false, and feel satisfied that all the time she has spent becoming who she is the past decade or so isn't a waste.
From the end of the last episode, it seems as if Canaan will be made to believe that Maria has actually died with the train car exploding. While I am not sure if she actually does die (or if the train car even explodes), if it does happen, it won't be the threat of Maria dying pushing Canaan anymore, but the shock of her actual death and the desire for revenge that arises from it.
Peace.
Hmm... We haven't actually seen Canaan to be excessively revenge driven (like so many shounen characters). She hasn't been going out of her way to kill Alphard (though she hates her surely) but has prioritised being with Maria in my opinion. In that sense I tend to think a threat of Maria dying might indeed be more powerful than her actually dying. It's a good theory the train car might not explode at all. Although an empty threat wouldn't really be conducive in the long run.
I find it absurd that Canaan can dodge bullets but gets hit by Alphard's attacks. It just doesn't make any sense. Can anyone give a good explanation for this?
I understand that predicting the opponents moves goes a long way in battle, and in that respect Alphard is definitely better than Canaan. But Canaan can sense bullets, and react to them. There is no way a human's punch can exceed that speed. Add to that the fact that bullets are minuscule and cannot be blocked, it just defies logic how Canaan gets beaten up like she has been.
I always thought that Alphard had some special power as well allowing her to be on par with Canaan, but the last episode seems to confirm that she is indeed only human.
Peace.
gg - episode 13
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Canaan's a strange show. It's amazing in some aspects, but for some reason still doesn't hit the sweet spot that makes you nod in approval.
Fight scenes are fluid and well-choreographed, the plot's never slowed down and the characters have been entertaining.
Still, after that finale, something still doesn't quite feel right. I would have said that it doesn't feel like they finished what they started, but that's not entirely true since the entire Ua virus conspiracy is all but explained.
The very last episodes took off on a tangent of character relationship developments that were more cryptic than clear. It's seemingly put together so well that you'd want to describe it as "genius", but when you still can't make coherent sense out of it, one questions if it should rather be described as badly written.
If there's one thing that's clear, it's that Canaan's been fun to watch.
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If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I think the sweet spot you are referring to may be because of the main characters in the show. They are likable, and go through a lot of character development, but I personally don't love any of them. Generally, for me to like an anime a lot, it has to have at least one fantastic character, and while most of the characters in Canaan are great, they fall short by just a bit.
I actually really like the relationship between the two Canaans in this show. That is the highlight for me.
I also like the ending. It feels... fresh.
Peace.
This is probably the first time I've seen Alphard become uneasy when fighting Canaan, having the reverse effect that she'd hoped Canaan would succumb to when Maria's train exploded. Overall, the series was quite entertaining to watch, and I'd check it out if you forumers haven't.
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It was interesting to see her aura shift from brown to green (fear). Alphard expected Canaan to break down a little when Maria supposedly exploded. Unfortunately for her, Canaan had already grown up mentally a bit since then. After that, Alphard was forced to realize that Siam had been right about what Canaan is all along.
Since Alphard is loniless, it makes sense she can't predict how Canaan might behave in relation to her friends. Doubly so because it was something Canaan herself only then understood and reached.
I do know what Bill is talking about considering the show. It was quite hard to really love any of the characters. The ending was a fitting one for the series also because of that. While there was lots of fantasy elements involved, there was still an underlying realism running alongside it and I reckon it was that realism that made the character relationships and also this ending the way they were. Just like the reporter dude said: Maria and Canaan's worlds where worlds apart. Unlike in some Hollywood style ending they did what you would think people from different surroundings would do: Go their separate ways. Kind of a gray ending not raising huge emotions.
A pretty nice photo exhibition, though: A very good close-up of an Interpol wanted terrorist... If only some visitor actually recognized her.
well, that was definitely a good ending.
i feel so mixed about this show, cause like the first episode caught my interest, but then episodes like 2-8 were so bad i almost stopped watching, and really kinda just stopped taking it seriously. but then these last 4 episodes have been so good. but of course when it was over and i was like "this series was awesome!" all the early episodes came rushing back to me and i was like "oh yeah.. this series is the same thing as that series..."
around episode 9 it just got such a different tone to it. which made me really get into it.
i hated the post-credits sequel setup >.<
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Had forgotten to finish up this series, had a couple of episodes to go. In all, an enjoyable series, with kickass action. A bit confusing and ambiguous at times, but it told a cool self-contained story.
Felt like a Bee Train series, and I've been a bit of fan of them (though haven't cared much for some of their latest), and curiously the founder of the animating company also founded Bee Train.
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