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    Ouch, what a way to die.

    Was that another person with Synesthesia in the ice? Her eyes were similar to Canaans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    I'm not so sure about how Hakko's sound attack works. From Liang Qi's explanation it sounded like a physical attack where the air vibrations damage the brain, as if her voice hits the brain's resonance frequency. If that was the case though, her anti-sound trick would be useless, leaving the only way to hurt Canaan is if the perceived noise damages the brain upon interpretation, rather than physical contact.

    It's kind of half-assed science anyway, since I don't think Synesthesia would ever work like it's being portrayed to, but enjoyment didn't suffer much because of it.
    Physically damaging the brain from sound waves that are not extremely loud in volume is very implausible. I think it is the way that the brain perceives the sound waves that causes the damage. Liang Qi did say that the vibrations damage the brain, but it can also mean that the way the brain (or the ear drum) receives the vibrations causes the damage. If it affects Canaan, I am inclined to believe the latter possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    I must say that's the best Canaan episode to date. The mood, especially the second half, was just one roller coaster after another. I particularly liked how they preserved the silence in that whole sequence, but showed Hakko and Mino's respective emotional changes as he got through to her, from green (being afraid of her) to maroon, then finally the light-brown that's mysteriously characteristic of Siam and Alphard.

    Liang Qui is one ruthless, cunning bitch. So ruthless and cunning that I'm starting to like her.
    Hakko and Mino both ended yellow-orange when Canaan passed out, not brown. What that means, I'm not sure (it's very similar to Maria), but they were not the brown that Alphard and Siam shared. If I had to guess, it was love (or close to it), because that is the same emotion Maria has for Canaan.

    Liang Qi has started to grate on me. Smaller amounts of Tanaka Rie uber-crazy are fine, but when she gets like this her voices goes shrill and is incredibly irritating.

    Aside from Maria, Hakko is probably my favorite character in the show. This episode just proved why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    Liang Qui is one ruthless, cunning bitch.
    True enough, but it's getting easy to see why Alphard wanted to get rid of her. She clearly can't separate her own needs from those of the mission, and thus will use any resource available purely for her own purposes. I have a feeling her downfall will be the fact she doesn't know when to stop.

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    I wonder why Canaan didn't turn off her synesthesia... If she did, maybe she won't be affected by hakko's sound attack during that situation.

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    I don't think she can turn it off. We have seen her with the red eyes, but I'm inclined to think it's only a degree of concentration or something. Back when she lost the synesthesia she was all out of it, because she suddenly didn't know how people are feeling (and it was certainly made to look that was totally new to her), Maria included. That strongly indicates the condition is on all the time, red eyes or not.

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    Liang Qi noted that the purpose of the Flower Garden was to recreate the Ua Virus' effect on Canaan's synesthesia. She always had synesthesia, but the Ua Virus hit her too, and that is what propelled it to the level where she can interact with machines, track Maria by aura, and utilize the effect to empower her reflexes (prediction or something) and grant her the supremacy she has in combat.

    The red eyes effect is her synesthesia just ascending to the higher plateau granted by the virus...the same way any Borner does, just without the drugs.

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    whoa, definitely the best episode of the series.

    man, when hakko walked in and started talking, i knew that the evil chick wasn't gonna be in there, but i didn't see that dude being in there at all! and then they actually killed him off D:!!

    daaang this episode was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandadice
    man, when hakko walked in and started talking, i knew that the evil chick wasn't gonna be in there, but i didn't see that dude being in there at all! and then they actually killed him off D:!!
    When Hakko walked in and was met with no response from the conveniently turned-around chair, I was something like 95% sure her man would be there.

    So the entire time she was talking, I was thinking "Oh shit, no, stop talking...just stop talking.", and when he was finally revealed: "Oh f*ck, it is him... )

    The feeling of impending doom was just as good to watch as a complete-smack-in-the-face shock, if not better.

    All the more powerful how he died halfway through her confession.

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    I realized it was him around the same time as you did Buff, only I didn't care much for the guy, so rather than impending doom, I didn't feel much of anything except maybe a little excitement.

    The death scene on the other hand, was powerful. The fact that he wanted to torture himself just to hear those words actually made me like the guy in the last few seconds of his life. Hakko dragging the body around was fantastic too.

    I wonder how the reporter guy can save Hakko from her despair.
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    My main feeling when watching the scene was to wonder how stupid Hakko can be. But then again, I don't think she was ever pictured that sagacious. She would have probably made an excellent wife, mother, and a worker in social or humanistic field of the service sector but anything action related is vastly foreign to her nature.

    Still, the series is doing remarkable work in building extreme anticipation for Liang Qi's death scene.

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    I also thought that Hakko was extremely dumb.
    Why would Lian Qi expose herself so easily to her when she clearly stated she knows her power and was cautious enough to not even have microphones in order to no hear her through her monitors?

    Hakko's power is so strong, long range and multidirectionnal, that she just need to wait for the chair to turn to her. Should it be a very dumb Lian Qi sitting there even with weapons, she'd just have to shout so loudly that she'd be killed in a second.
    The other dumb one is that guy no mumbling/moaning the best he can, after all we're in a chapel it seems, so Hakko should have been able to get that sound.

    So to me that scene had to many shortcomings, even if it ended quite well and I also love how she just dragged him by the arm too. All of that with eyes far from sanity and a gun pointed at anyone near her, friendly or not.


    Side not: Lian Qi's comments about sounds during sexual entertainment were mean too (was it last ep?)

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    I don't think deception even really enters Hakko's mind. From what we've seen of her interacting with Mino, and even the flashback where she killed the child, she is usually concerned for others.

    She has never viewed her powers as anything but a curse until now. Since her plan to use them offensively has backfired this poorly, I don't believe she will even consider it anything else ever again.

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    I believe that was a hint that the Ua virus came from a mummy. Canaan was exposed to it and gained heightened powers that way, opening the way to more research.

    I also thought it was weird that the Japanese name for episode 12 isn't Seasonal Train.

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    it seemed like everyone was going crazy this episode.. first that one crazy evil chick dies and then hakko is making love to the dead guy.. definitely had an end-of-the-series look to it

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    Finally Lian Qi died. She had been cracking so fast that it was about the time. Quite a suitable death scene as well. Canaan's employer woman (whatever was her name) being so wicked was a little surprise to me even if I did have some suspicion she must have ulterior motives.

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    This is a show where people do not come back from death, it seems.
    I would not like to see Lian coming back thanks to the UA virus giving her super regenerative abilities for example.

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    I don't believe the drug she ate was the Ua virus. It was a beta stage drug meant to force synesthesia regardless of the genetic background. The virus, however, causes mutations that could potentially provide the genetic basis for a fully functional synesthesia. So, a person is subjected to the virus and if suitable mutations occur, the drug is given to create a Canaan like entity.

    Though no doubt they might have aimed to have the drug create some degree of usable synesthesia in normal persons as well.

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    Hmm... making love to a dead guy... what a sight.
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