Yes, but Ivankov himself said that Luffy's body wouldn't be able to handle the poison a second time. MegalionOriginally Posted by Assertn
Yes, but Ivankov himself said that Luffy's body wouldn't be able to handle the poison a second time. Megalion
Yes, but Ivankov himself said that Luffy's body wouldn't be able to handle the poison a second time. Magellan is either gonna be held up by Mr.3 or defeated by someone else, since Luffy just can't do it as he is right now.
Shaping a substance as hard as steel to any shape you want hardly seems useless
And even with his wax armor he still needs to breathe so the poisonous fog will still get him
I'm not saying Luffy should get hit by poison a second time, I'm saying he could've fought Magellan such that he wouldn't have been hit in the first place. He just used his bare fists without caring. Just because Luffy's been poisoned once before, he's still no more prone to dying from Magellan than all the other guys that have already been slimed.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
The way he said it, it made it sound as if Luffy's immune system was still to fragile to be able to handle the slightest contact with another round of poison
It just sounded that way to me, might be wrong
I`m not following you... not getting hit is an overall good strategy in every fight.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Difference being that Teach knew nothing of Magellan and just stood there waiting to find out about him instead of using his power to fight him properly. Chances are he also just faked his defeat so Magellan would move on and leave him alone. No way is he out of commission after proclaiming something huge will happen in a few hours. Even for Oda that's rotten foreshadowing. Otherwise he'd just be saying that Magellan is his favorite current character and use him as a plow to just mow through everyone.
BB clearly isn't beaten yet. That would make all the build up for him pointless if he was beaten, stripped of his title and thrown in jail here. But the plan has still makes me wonder what it could be.
Also. I'm going to make a prediction. I think it's time for the last admiral to show up. This craziness is a good time to bring him in and show all three of the admirals once and for all. Most of all, all of these fruits that are "liquid" or logia based running around in the prison got me to thinking. Oda is going to use this as an opportunity to keep up with the logia fruits and show that the last one "red dog" or Akainu, has a logia fruit in accordance to his colored name. Something red. Keeping in fashion with Kizaru's light and yellow monkey, and Aokiji's blue pheasant ice theme.
The war is happening soon anyway, and I'm sure there are people getting sent there to help Magellan out handling the ex shichibukai. If anyone should be sent, it should be the admiral who upholds absolute justice out of the three in order to stop Luffy and try and keep Ace from him.
Last edited by The Chancellor; Tue, 06-09-2009 at 06:19 PM.
I've also given this some thought, especially since the mero mero fruit has already been revealed.
Maybe a lava fruit...?
I'm guessing lava yeah. And yea Aces fruit is already revealed. If it is though it'll kind of be a let down, if only in terms of being able to predict it from all of this watered down hype and ruin it like the whole Kizaru's light fruit ordeal that was beaten to death. But other than that it should be really interesting to see him in action using it.
Then again if Oda doesn't lava then what else can it be? Should be fun either way.
Nobody is going to come to help Magellan. Shiryuu (is that his name?) already took out the communication station, so they are out of contact with the WG. Sending an admiral away from Marineford within hours of an impending war would be so ridiculously risky at this point, anyway.
Mero mero, Hancock's ability, which converts a person's lust into an energy that turns them into stone? lol.... yeah that would've been my first guess too.
@uchessmaster: I think you've been confused throughout this whole thread.
Yes, but this is one of the few circumstances where a single hit is lethal for luffy. Even a single hit from Kizaru wasn't enough to kill any of the captains or zoro...that's the significance of this particular situation. The point of the wax is so Luffy can hit Magellan without taking damage.
Last edited by Assertn; Tue, 06-09-2009 at 06:50 PM.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
A) Kizaru never hit Zoro, so we'll never know how that would've played out. And Hawkins didn't even use his own body for one of the strongest hits from Kizaru. He busted out that voodoo crap and picked off two of his crewmates.
B) Just because the communication system has been destroyed, doesn't mean that someone hasn't already been sent. The chaos we've been reading for a few chapters now is something that has been going on for almost a full day. You don't think that the HQ would be notified and send someone strong to help clean the mess up before Shiryuu was released from his cell? Plus, it's only one admiral. We know Kizaru and Aokiji are already there waiting for the war to start. That's two admirals. I think the WG could do fine with 5 shichibukai and 2 admirals. In fact they could probably spank WB's crew.
Don't be a smartass, i obviously meant the Mera Mera no Mi
Last edited by Archangel; Tue, 06-09-2009 at 07:32 PM.
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/511/15/
"ZORO-SAN GOT HIT BY A BEAM"
I dunno why you are arguing that point, anyway, cause you know that Drake, Apoo, and that fallen monk guy got hit by Kizaru too.
So basically you're saying that Oda introduced this literary plot twist for no reason, then? One recurring issue I've had in this forum for as long as I've been here are people who fail to observe critical plot details or shrug them off as unimportant. Also, when do you get the impression that its ok for the marines to remove 1/3 of their force's strongest power? Everybody's sweating over this war even with their firepower at its fullest.B) Just because the communication system has been destroyed, doesn't mean that someone hasn't already been sent. The chaos we've been reading for a few chapters now is something that has been going on for almost a full day. You don't think that the HQ would be notified and send someone strong to help clean the mess up before Shiryuu was released from his cell? Plus, it's only one admiral. We know Kizaru and Aokiji are already there waiting for the war to start. That's two admirals. I think the WG could do fine with 5 shichibukai and 2 admirals. In fact they could probably spank WB's crew.
Failure at marineford would be more devastating than failure at impel down. If marineford falls, then the world government will basically lose all influence it has.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
No, but he could be using it in a different way and more ways than one. At this point in the story (and Odas writing level) he could easily be mind fuck foreshadowing us. And he most likely is. I'm just saying that although he had Shiryuu destroy the communications station, there was:
A) more than one reason for it
B) a possible way for him to add to the story by the having station being destroyed too late and not letting it affect communications that could have already happened with the marines already.
Besides the only other thing you could be implying is that Shiryuu is going to have a bigger role in this whole mess that Odas getting himself into in the first place.
A third of their power? Are you seriously going to tell me that the three admirals alone are stronger than the gathered shichibukai? You really think that one admiral gone is going to make that much of a difference in this war?
Dude hmmm... quit while you're ahead
Ok then? lol Is this what this Assert N guy does to people on here? Just belittles them and owns them royally in public on here? Is he the king of the one piece forums or something?
All I'm saying is that we need to consider that although logias are strong, it's one, admiral. Not the entire marine's force. They'll still have two logia users. And the fight hasn't even started yet. I don't think it'll start for another 2 chapters.
Lol....owning people royally is why I stick around.
First of all, the schichibukai is not part of the marines, which was what I was stressing.
Second of all, Whitebeard had Ace, a logia user, and Ace was just one of multiple division captains. You don't think they could stand up to two admirals? And yes, the three admirals combined are probably at least equal to the combined force of everything else under the marines.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I agree with Assertn and Archangel on this one, seems obvious at this point someone will try to get some reinforcement in a critical moment and fail miserably.
Lord Assertn doesn`t belittles us, we are already aware how small we are compared to lord Assertn, lord Assertn doesn`t has to remind us, lord Assertn is GOD.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
No, but they are practically hired guns by the WG and are here for situations like this against the whitebeard pirates.
And no I don't think they could stand up to two admirals. I'll give you that the admirals are 90% of the marines force, but in that same regard, 80% of whitebeards crew is cannon fodder. Even after captains 1-5, they probably don't even know any decent haki let alone have any fighting skills or fruits. Hell, I bet the man doesn't even have a logia user on his ship anymore. Ace was his only Ace in the hole. The only person I'm betting is close to taking on an admiral on even basis would be Marco, the first division captain.
There's not much of a frame of reference for the yonkou crews, but one thing to note: When Shanks first opened talks with Whitebeard, he sent a newbie member of his crew, Rockstar, to relay the message. Rockstar had a $100M bounty. This guy was basically considered a joke by Whitebeard and his crew. Meanwhile, a certain pirate received a $100M bounty after defeating a former schichibukai, who previously had his own bounty of around $130M.
Luffy single-handedly defeated two schichibukai thus far, and could've defeated Hancock as well if they ever actually fought. At this point, I don't think Luffy is even ready to enter the new world yet, and you're indirectly implying he's stronger than 95% of Whitebeard's crew.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
That's all pointless speculation. In fact, I'd say it's pretty weak. A lot of guys were ambitious enough to keep standing during Shanks' visit.
Whitebeard is supposedly epically strong. He was strong enough to fight with Roger and live. That means, most likely, that he is as strong, or stronger, than Rayleigh, whom we saw fight and hurt a Marine Admiral alone.
If the World Government wasn't serious about taking Whitebeard down, they wouldn't have convened all of the Shichibukai. If the Marines could have killed Whitebeard without the Shichibukai's help, they would have.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote