Listing Anomizing Apps (sharing)

[David75]

In another thread, I mentionned my search for search apps.

[Background]
As you may not know, our President Nicolas Sarkozy had one of his ministers create a liberticid law against file sharing.
Private companies list ips on p2p softs, mails are sent to adresses connected to those ips. After 2 warings, a real mail
After that mail the internet is cut off for months and you still have to pay for it...
There's no judgment and you can not defend yourself.
Sarkozy already succeeded in doing the same with automated speedcameras and fines. You cannot refuse to pay, it's only after you pay you can sue, but they don't care.

[/Background]

So the idea is to list p2p apps with greater anonymity...

I just tried OneSwarm
It's developped by people at the university of Whashington
If I understood correctly, everynode in the swarm use crypted adresses, requests are anonymised and sent in multiple loops, coming back from multiple places. No man in the middle method can help you finding who shares what and where... On the paper at least.

The advantage is that it's simple and integrates a torrent client (not anonymous obviously...)
The drawback is that it's too simple for the moment, and you can't fine tune the torrent part for example.
To me, the idea used by OneSwarm could easily be integrated in any torrent software...


In the past I tried Freenet
Not that easy to use, very slow because no one uses it. it was last year, so maybe it's better now.

GnuNet
Same problem as Freenet

Anonymous browsing with TOR
Works quite well for low bandwidth pages, you get 20/40 KB/s average for light browsing.
It's getting better because there's more and more users..

Feel free to add ideas, soft
Thanks

[Xrlderek]

Perfect Dark perhaps. It is a file sharing program. It is slightly hard to find what you want there though, and the cache it requires annoys me. There wasn't much english stuff and the speed was slow.. last time I checked anyway. From what I've heard it is "secure", but I haven't read up on it and don't really know much about it. I think the cache was 40GB or something, that it always seeds from, without you knowing what is there.. I didn't really like that part.

[David75]

Perfect Dark perhaps. It is a file sharing program. It is slightly hard to find what you want there though, and the cache it requires annoys me. There wasn't much english stuff and the speed was slow.. last time I checked anyway. From what I've heard it is "secure", but I haven't read up on it and don't really know much about it. I think the cache was 40GB or something, that it always seeds from, without you knowing what is there.. I didn't really like that part.

Some of those "darknets" use everynode all the time to increase privacy by having continuous streams of data. And yes, anything can go through your comp with some of them.

[Kraco]

I'd certainly think twice before using anything like that. You could be propagating child porn without your knowledge, after all.

[David75]

I'd certainly think twice before using anything like that. You could be propagating child porn without your knowledge, after all.

Yes, it is one of the reasons I only try those for a short time...
I'm mainly trying to find alternatives, eventhough I think they'll come
In high numbers later in the future when more freedom killing laws appear...
It's more like a proactive listing

[Buffalobiian]

It looks like my new ISP isn't too keen on winding up in legal action like iinet, so these guys actually forward C&D letter followed by account suspension.

I should listen out for this after all.

[David75]

It looks like my new ISP isn't too keen on winding up in legal action like iinet, so these guys actually forward C&D letter followed by account suspension.

I should listen out for this after all.

So it all depends on who has rights for the things you download and if they have connections to your country and will ask for these rights to be enforced.

For example in France:
If you download anime, there's a very limited chance there's someone who has the liscence... even more when you dl a fansub that was aired a week ago for the first time.
If someone has the liscence, the thing is that if you didn't dl that sub in french language, there's another limitation... because the liscence should be searched in the original country: ie japan too.

Another point is that anime has been ostracized in France as almost evil material years ago, which I can understand when you have "hokuto no ken" aired in time slots for toddlers to preteens... So authorities almost do not care
Also the ones having the rights are very small companies that most of the time didn't actually buy the rights themselves and sell products with awful quality fansubs, or abysmal dubs, awful video quality, late by 5 or ten years... So they are even more in illegality than you'd be...

Fortunately I have no interrest for:
Movies, Music, TV shows and all of these things that have strong majors behind that can sue anywhere on the globe... But even there, streaming is a very good option since we start getting very good quality streaming.

All in all, I try to stay very low under the radar, but one can't be 100% sure, hence my search