TV: Breaking Bad

[UChessmaster]

Uh, Walt didn't betray their marriage.

Yes, he did. His gazillion lies were a betrayal to her trust.

He did what he could to provide for his family knowing they have little to nothing.

And kept going even after he had no need for it, what a hero.

A good reason to move the kids out of the house? Sure. A good reason to fuck Ted? No.

Already addressed in the getting even part. But just for fun, look at what the other family members did when they found out, Hank and Marie tried to straight up uncover him, which is way worse than having sex with some dude, Jr. immediately sided with Skylar, but no one complained about them being against Walter, because being against Walter is the logical path, Skylar didn`t revealed him because she loves Walt, and instead chose to redirect her anger towards a far less damaging action.

The reason people hate her is because she's an ungrateful bitch. Sure Walt is doing something illegal, but he's not doing it for shits and giggles.

You`re right! she should totally be grateful her husband is now a druglord! I love it how you bellitle what Walter does, sure, he`s making drugs, endangering his family, making business with other dangerous people, killing people, ruining hundreds (if not thousands) of people that buy and become addicted to the drug, but hey, he likes his family so is ok, meanwhile, Skylar had sex with someone? BURN THE BITCH!

That particular paragraph is exactly what Anna talk about, people expecting her to be all submissive and shit.

[Carnage]

Yes, he did. His gazillion lies were a betrayal to her trust.

Not a betrayal to their marriage pact.

And kept going even after he had no need for it, what a hero.

I already explained this previously in the thread. At this point, it had less to do with Sky

Already addressed in the getting even part. But just for fun, look at what the other family members did when they found out, Hank and Marie tried to straight up uncover him, which is way worse than having sex with some dude, Jr. immediately sided with Skylar, but no one complained about them being against Walter, because being against Walter is the logical path, Skylar didn`t revealed him because she loves Walt, and instead chose to redirect her anger towards a far less damaging action.

Trying to uncover him vs. betraying their marriage is a matter of opinion I suppose. In last night's episode Walt went out of his way to tie his ring around his neck. I personally find cheating more offensive than Hank doing his job. As for Walt Jr., he has Cerebral Palsy, so its silly for you to even make the comparison.

You`re right! she should totally be grateful her husband is now a druglord! I love it how you bellitle what Walter does, sure, he`s making drugs,

I guess the point of the show flew right over your head. What Walt does isn't far darker than what many people do legally. Hank is a racist, the DEA is willing to fuck over Skylar's family even if they had little to do with the crime, schwartz never seemingly cared to give Walt credit (prior seasons), chemical and tobacco companies affect a lot more people in negative ways than Walt, U.S. citizens pay their taxes which are used in war. Walt's product fucks over deadbeats. It's perspective. The only time I truly ever felt he was guilty was when that kid on the bike was shot, and Walt didn't reprimand/shoot Todd.

endangering his family,

Granted. Which is grounds for a divorce.

making business with other dangerous people, killing people, ruining hundreds (if not thousands) of people that buy and become addicted to the drug, but hey, he likes his family

Oh no, a bunch of deadbeats already addicted to the drug are still buying a drug they would otherwise still have access to. The only deaths Walt is responsible for are of criminals, save the one boy on the bike.

so is ok, meanwhile, Skylar had sex with someone? BURN THE BITCH!

That particular paragraph is exactly what Anna talk about, people expecting her to be all submissive and shit.

Yeah, she not only fucks Ted while Walt is breaking his balls to provide for his family, but gives that guy the very money he bled for. I guess marriage isn't as big a deal to you, different strokes for different folks.

[UChessmaster]

Not a betrayal to their marriage pact.

Trust is one of the foundations for marriage.

Trying to uncover him vs. betraying their marriage is a matter of opinion I suppose. In last night's episode Walt went out of his way to tie his ring around his neck. I personally find cheating more offensive than Hank doing his job. As for Walt Jr., he has Cerebral Palsy, so its silly for you to even make the comparison.

And that`s where the problem is, cheating on someone ONCE is way smaller than all the shit Walt did, but maybe I`m wrong on this, I`d like to see other members opinion on this. What does Jr`s CP has to do with anything?

I guess the point of the show flew right over your head. What Walt does isn't far darker than what many people do legally. Hank is a racist, the DEA is willing to fuck over Skylar's family even if they had little to do with the crime, schwartz never seemingly cared to give Walt credit (prior seasons), chemical and tobacco companies affect a lot more people in negative ways than Walt, U.S. citizens pay their taxes which are used in war. Walt's product fucks over deadbeats. It's perspective. The only time I truly ever felt he was guilty was when that kid on the bike was shot, and Walt didn't reprimand/shoot Todd.

And that justifies his actions? what he does is not that bad because someone, somewhere, somehow is doing something worse than him? alright

Oh no, a bunch of deadbeats already addicted to the drug are still buying a drug they would otherwise still have access to. The only deaths Walt is responsible for are of criminals, save the one boy on the bike.

I`m not quite sure how to answer this, Walt`s drug is vastly superior to what`s on the market, so his product obviously created a lot more addiction that wouldn`t exist with a normal product.

I honestly can`t believe the lengths people go to defend Walt to this day and slam Skylar, you claim I missed the point of the series as you defend this guy. Remind me again the name of the series.

[Carnage]

Trust is one of the foundations for marriage.

But nothing Walt did was ill willed. It was out of consideration for his family, if he broke the trust fucking someone else or shooting up highschools then that would be another matter. Our difference in priority of values probably wont allow us to settle this argument.

And that`s where the problem is, cheating on someone ONCE is way smaller than all the shit Walt did, but maybe I`m wrong on this, I`d like to see other members opinion on this. What does Jr`s CP has to do with anything?

I'm assuming Walt Jr. having CP affects his judgement or ability to think critically. Otherwise, if he were normal I would call him an absolute idiot for taking everyone else's side of the story before even listening to his father. Wouldn't you give your dad the chance to explain himself?

And that justifies his actions? what he does is not that bad because someone, somewhere, somehow is doing something worse than him? alright

No, I'm calling people who criticize Walt hypocrites for hating on Walt while not complaining about the rest of humanity that is just as guilty either through complacency or directly being responsible for worse crimes.

I`m not quite sure how to answer this, Walt`s drug is vastly superior to what`s on the market, so his product obviously created a lot more addiction that wouldn`t exist with a normal product.

If you're addicted to meth, you're addicted to meth.

I honestly can`t believe the lengths people go to defend Walt to this day and slam Skylar, you claim I missed the point of the series as you defend this guy. Remind me again the name of the series.

Like the term "Grey Matter" doesn't mean anything?


The whole point is that not everything is black and white. Some things Walt does do and don't bother me so much depending on the justification. Same goes for Skyler, I can understand her walking into the pool and wanting her kids out of the house. Her cheating and giving Walt's money away is unjustified. People don't hate women who are strong and self-dependent, they hate idiots who think they're strong and self-dependent.

[UChessmaster]

But nothing Walt did was ill willed. It was out of consideration for his family, if he broke the trust fucking someone else or shooting up highschools then that would be another matter. Our difference in priority of values probably wont allow us to settle this argument.

Yeah, there`s no point in keeping this argument.

I'm assuming Walt Jr. having CP affects his judgement or ability to think critically.

You assume wrong.

Otherwise, if he were normal I would call him an absolute idiot for taking everyone else's side of the story before even listening to his father. Wouldn't you give your dad the chance to explain himself?

You mean like when he kept asking Walt if it was true he killed Hank and Walt wouldn`t give him a straight answer?

No, I'm calling people who criticize Walt hypocrites for hating on Walt while not complaining about the rest of humanity that is just as guilty either through complacency or directly being responsible for worse crimes.

The show is about Walter White, not the tobacco companies.

If you're addicted to meth, you're addicted to meth.

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Like the term "Grey Matter" doesn't mean anything?

Not quite sure what you meant by this.

The whole point is that not everything is black and white. Some things Walt does do and don't bother me so much depending on the justification. Same goes for Skyler, I can understand her walking into the pool and wanting her kids out of the house. Her cheating and giving Walt's money away is unjustified. People don't hate women who are strong and self-dependent, they hate idiots who think they're strong and self-dependent.

The point is about a good guy that makes bad decision and becomes a bad guy, it IS about black and white, he was white, and he is now black. He was meant to be bad and people aren`t meant to relate or feel sorry for him. The creator`s view, not mine.

[Carnage]

He was meant to be bad and people aren`t meant to relate or feel sorry for him. The creator`s view, not mine.

I'm not going to continue with the arguments because I dont want to spam this thread, but do you have a source for this?

[UChessmaster]

I'm not going to continue with the arguments because I dont want to spam this thread, but do you have a source for this?

He said as much in several interviews, most recently in the talking bad segment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3742070.html

Host Chris Hardwick asked Gilligan if he still liked Walt. "Not so much, no. He’s kind of a bad dude," Gilligan responded. "I mean, that was kind of the whole point of it all, but at a certain point he’s harder and harder to symapthize with.”

Here`s some funny news, BrBa is getting a remake already... a Latin american remake called "metastasis".

Arriba Walter Blanco!