Yeah I wouldnt be surprised if the episodes themselves weren't any longer and it was all commercials. This is probably the most watched event outside of the Superbowl I guess.
Yeah I wouldnt be surprised if the episodes themselves weren't any longer and it was all commercials. This is probably the most watched event outside of the Superbowl I guess.
75 minutes not counting commercials.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Your average hour long show is around 40 minutes of actual show, so 75 minutes is a lot of material for an hour and a half episode. Can't wait!
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
To all those Skylar haters.
Edit: About the episode, turns out it`s 75 minutes WITH commercials, actual episode will be about 6 mins longer than other episodes, oh well.
Last edited by UChessmaster; Sun, 09-22-2013 at 01:48 PM.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Funny, she doesn't actually confront that actual situations that cause us to hate her character. I do feel bad for her as an actress though, must be stressful.Originally Posted by UChessmaster
For example?
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
It's difficult for me to recall most of it, because I marathoned the show a year ago. But for one example, she never addresses Skyler cheating with Ted.
Considering she just found out Walt is a drug lord, fucking Ted was not anywhere near getting even. She should`ve fucked Walt Jr, Honk, Gomez, Gus, Mike, Tio Salamanca, Tuco`s body, Ted, Holly, The chair Walt sits to eat and THEN they`re even, maybe.
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You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
I think she already provided the reason there's so much hate for Skyler: she is Walt's foil. More so than Tuco, or Gus, or even Hank, she is the one that has stymied Walt since the beginning and to the end. She is the cause and drive for most of the struggles he's endured. Like she said, Skyler is the antagonist and Walt is the protagonist.
It's ridiculous that people would threaten the actress because they hate the character, but it should be some consolation that she did a great job of playing a character that affects people so deeply, even if it's with a negative emotion.
Yeah I noticed on my DVR that the show will be 75 minutes total. I think it ran long last week too.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Uh, Walt didn't betray their marriage. He did what he could to provide for his family knowing they have little to nothing. A good reason to move the kids out of the house? Sure. A good reason to fuck Ted? No. The reason people hate her is because she's an ungrateful bitch. Sure Walt is doing something illegal, but he's not doing it for shits and giggles.
I can't remember, did Skyler sleep with Ted when she knew Walt was lying to her, but didn't know yet that he was a drug kingpin and death machine?
I wouldn't say she's an ungrateful person. To some, the ends do not justify the means, so regardless of the nobility of Walt's intent, his actions are a betrayal of their trust. Would you personally be able to live off money that you knew came from terrible sources?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
That's why I said:
It's not that she doesn't want anything to do with Walt, which any sane wife wouldn't. More so the her fuck-ups along the way as well as her attitude towards him. For example, not only did she fuck Ted, but she also gave him Walt's money. When he needed it most.A good reason to move the kids out of the house? Sure. A good reason to fuck Ted? No.
Yo I can see the finale now:
Walt pays $10.3 million to a gang of street rats to obliterate Shwartz and his slut wife along with Todd and his redneck crew, come back to buttfuck Jesse and then kill him, and then leaves $567,750 (or however much he calculated in the beginning of the show) for his kids. Then he turns himself in, but right before they can handcuff him, he dies from cancer. PoPo never caught the Heisenberg.
ALL HAIL THE KING
Yes, he did. His gazillion lies were a betrayal to her trust.
And kept going even after he had no need for it, what a hero.
Already addressed in the getting even part. But just for fun, look at what the other family members did when they found out, Hank and Marie tried to straight up uncover him, which is way worse than having sex with some dude, Jr. immediately sided with Skylar, but no one complained about them being against Walter, because being against Walter is the logical path, Skylar didn`t revealed him because she loves Walt, and instead chose to redirect her anger towards a far less damaging action.
You`re right! she should totally be grateful her husband is now a druglord! I love it how you bellitle what Walter does, sure, he`s making drugs, endangering his family, making business with other dangerous people, killing people, ruining hundreds (if not thousands) of people that buy and become addicted to the drug, but hey, he likes his family so is ok, meanwhile, Skylar had sex with someone? BURN THE BITCH!
That particular paragraph is exactly what Anna talk about, people expecting her to be all submissive and shit.
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You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
Not a betrayal to their marriage pact.
I already explained this previously in the thread. At this point, it had less to do with Sky
Trying to uncover him vs. betraying their marriage is a matter of opinion I suppose. In last night's episode Walt went out of his way to tie his ring around his neck. I personally find cheating more offensive than Hank doing his job. As for Walt Jr., he has Cerebral Palsy, so its silly for you to even make the comparison.
I guess the point of the show flew right over your head. What Walt does isn't far darker than what many people do legally. Hank is a racist, the DEA is willing to fuck over Skylar's family even if they had little to do with the crime, schwartz never seemingly cared to give Walt credit (prior seasons), chemical and tobacco companies affect a lot more people in negative ways than Walt, U.S. citizens pay their taxes which are used in war. Walt's product fucks over deadbeats. It's perspective. The only time I truly ever felt he was guilty was when that kid on the bike was shot, and Walt didn't reprimand/shoot Todd.
Granted. Which is grounds for a divorce.
Oh no, a bunch of deadbeats already addicted to the drug are still buying a drug they would otherwise still have access to. The only deaths Walt is responsible for are of criminals, save the one boy on the bike.
Yeah, she not only fucks Ted while Walt is breaking his balls to provide for his family, but gives that guy the very money he bled for. I guess marriage isn't as big a deal to you, different strokes for different folks.
Last edited by Carnage; Mon, 09-23-2013 at 08:43 AM.
Trust is one of the foundations for marriage.
And that`s where the problem is, cheating on someone ONCE is way smaller than all the shit Walt did, but maybe I`m wrong on this, I`d like to see other members opinion on this. What does Jr`s CP has to do with anything?
And that justifies his actions? what he does is not that bad because someone, somewhere, somehow is doing something worse than him? alright
I`m not quite sure how to answer this, Walt`s drug is vastly superior to what`s on the market, so his product obviously created a lot more addiction that wouldn`t exist with a normal product.
I honestly can`t believe the lengths people go to defend Walt to this day and slam Skylar, you claim I missed the point of the series as you defend this guy. Remind me again the name of the series.
Last edited by UChessmaster; Mon, 09-23-2013 at 09:45 AM.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
But nothing Walt did was ill willed. It was out of consideration for his family, if he broke the trust fucking someone else or shooting up highschools then that would be another matter. Our difference in priority of values probably wont allow us to settle this argument.
I'm assuming Walt Jr. having CP affects his judgement or ability to think critically. Otherwise, if he were normal I would call him an absolute idiot for taking everyone else's side of the story before even listening to his father. Wouldn't you give your dad the chance to explain himself?
No, I'm calling people who criticize Walt hypocrites for hating on Walt while not complaining about the rest of humanity that is just as guilty either through complacency or directly being responsible for worse crimes.
If you're addicted to meth, you're addicted to meth.
Like the term "Grey Matter" doesn't mean anything?
The whole point is that not everything is black and white. Some things Walt does do and don't bother me so much depending on the justification. Same goes for Skyler, I can understand her walking into the pool and wanting her kids out of the house. Her cheating and giving Walt's money away is unjustified. People don't hate women who are strong and self-dependent, they hate idiots who think they're strong and self-dependent.
Yeah, there`s no point in keeping this argument.
You assume wrong.
You mean like when he kept asking Walt if it was true he killed Hank and Walt wouldn`t give him a straight answer?
The show is about Walter White, not the tobacco companies.
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Not quite sure what you meant by this.
The point is about a good guy that makes bad decision and becomes a bad guy, it IS about black and white, he was white, and he is now black. He was meant to be bad and people aren`t meant to relate or feel sorry for him. The creator`s view, not mine.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
I'm not going to continue with the arguments because I dont want to spam this thread, but do you have a source for this?
He said as much in several interviews, most recently in the talking bad segment.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3742070.html
Host Chris Hardwick asked Gilligan if he still liked Walt. "Not so much, no. He’s kind of a bad dude," Gilligan responded. "I mean, that was kind of the whole point of it all, but at a certain point he’s harder and harder to symapthize with.”
Here`s some funny news, BrBa is getting a remake already... a Latin american remake called "metastasis".
Arriba Walter Blanco!
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You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
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