... those were victims of the plain crash. How slow are you?Originally Posted by Animeniax
... those were victims of the plain crash. How slow are you?
So all the stuff they fished out of the pool and placed in evidence bags was from the plane crash? Why did they linger on the final item, a pair of eyeglasses that look a lot like the ones Walt wears? I figured it was a prelude to events down the road.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Because the whole thing was a red herring you dumbass :/
You don't know that. You're basing that on what, all the other episodes where they show prologue material to start the episode? It's very well possible that the show ends with Walt and Jesse dead at Walt's home. The White residence is central to the story, so it'd be a fitting place for it too all come to an end.
And I think Walt and Jesse's deaths are inevitable... they're both terrible people who have done some evil stuff that can't be excused.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Jesse isn`t that evil :/
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
If jesse goes down too I'll be shocked.
And if he's the one to go after walt I'll be less shocked... but still shocked.
Maybe not by nature, but he's done some very evil things like multiple murders, including shooting Gale in the face. He may have a soft spot for kids and women, but he's every bit as dangerous as Walt, since he can be used and controlled into committing heinous acts, but without the excuse of facing death or ego like Walt has.
Last edited by Animeniax; Tue, 09-11-2012 at 02:47 PM.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Remember the floating Eye scene from the stuffed animal.... Ya the one that fell from the plane? That was all connected to this those scenes
That does make sense, though that is a shit ton of stuff fished out of his pool from a plane crash. I guess having them placed in evidence bags was a red herring like Archie said. I kind of marathoned the series so I thought the scenes were foreshadowing future events.
edit: if those two bodies in the body bags were also plane crash victims, they really downplayed that. Having two corpses land in your pool might warrant more development. That's why I think it's a prelude to the finale of the series, not related to the plane crash.
Last edited by Animeniax; Tue, 09-11-2012 at 12:36 AM.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Who did he killed besides Gale?
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
He killed one of the Mexican bodyguards while helping Mike and Gus flee. But he is also responsible for the 2 drug dealers that Walt killed, because he went at them with a gun and would have died if Walt hadn't intervened.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
The Mexican bodyguard that was shooting at him and the drug dealers who killed a kid? Yeah, Jesse is an asshole.
Thing is we have laws in this country (even Mexico has laws) against vigilantism and murder. The Mexican bodyguard was doing his job. According to you, people should be able to shoot at police for shooting at them, with no moral qualms.
And you're still conveniently forgiving him for shooting Gale in the face, and that he's a drug dealer (also kills kids) and drug manufacturer.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I haven't forgiven him for anything, even ignoring all else he is a drug dealer pushing a very dangerous and rightfully illegal drug and should be punished accordingly.
You on the other hand are pointing out what are probably the most excusable and understandable of his misdeeds.
TL;DR: You're seriously fucking bad at proving your points.
Umm dude asked "who else did he kill," to which I answered (sans judgement) by listing the other folks he has killed. Then you try to change the subject.
Jesse is a bad guy. In many ways, worse than Walt. If anyone deserves to die, it's Jesse.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
They didn't downplay anything... Watch the episode ( i think the following season episode 1) the news reports explain body parts falling from the sky and obviously people......
They downplayed the effect on Walt and the family. I think the only possible reference to it was Walt's broken windshield and the temper tantrum he had with the police the resulted in him getting maced. But his windshield had already been broken from other events and Walt was in a bad mood from other events. So you couldn't even say he was upset because bodies and body parts landed in his pool.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Also consider that he doesn't have that car anymore so no it was in reference to that seasons ending and not hinting at something that is yet to come.
Fair enough, he did get rid of the Aztek and yet it appears next to those 2 body bags. Still, they really downplayed how much that affected Walt and family, having bodies land in your yard from a plane explosion.
So what do you all think Hank will do with what he's learned in the latest episode of season 8? If he acts on it, he ruins family and his career. But he's a lawman by nature so if he doesn't act on it, he'd just hate himself for the rest of his life.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
The thing is, he also benefited from drug money, so he is in a legally sticky situation himself (remember, Walt paid for his rehab). Also, if he goes after Walt, it could ruin the lives of his niece and nephew. I am sure there will be hell to pay, but I don't think it will be as clear cut as the two things you just laid out. He may have to get extralegal or something. Basically, it looks like the White-Schrader family will be screwed either way.
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