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    Perhaps drunk men tend to rape women? And somehow in Shiratori's ideal world, women are the most important? Sounds more like some twisted, personal fetish to me really, but anyhow. The policemen didn't exactly get punished for killing his debt chasers neither though, so I guess it's not something directly violating the rules.

    The "flow" of the episode certainly felt choppy. I was expecting them to build on the whole Mr Outsider thing from last episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    The policemen didn't exactly get punished for killing his debt chasers neither though, so I guess it's not something directly violating the rules.
    That was different because from what we saw, Kondo never directly killed anyone. All of his murders were requests, not something he simply did and needed clean up for. I suppose that is why I see a difference in Shiratori's activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    Shiratori has taken around 20,000 men? She's probably killed nearly all of them.

    Why hasn't the Supporter killed her yet? Killing lonely men and having the bodies quietly disposed of can't possibly be a good method of saving the country, no matter how you look at it. She even has Juiz call her something specific instead of the usual lines the other receive when they make requests.
    Well if i had to interpret it i'd say she's doing a taxi driver routine in trying to get rid of all the scum

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    I'm assuming they're all free to do whatever they want no matter of the moral issues for the good of the nation.

    She might think it's a good thing. I think that's part of the point of this entire setup to be honest. Experimenting with fulfilling the "If I had the power and resources to do it my way, I could make a difference" scenario.

    20,000 though? Is that a proper translation? Sounds too high for it to be even remotely realistic if she's been doing it the way we've seen. That's like 1 a night (every night) for 54 years...?

    Not too big a fan of the latest episode, and only 5 episodes to go...
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    I think it was an estimate. Since most, if not all of them get disposed of, you can't be too sure.

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    He did say 20,000 in japanese, and I wondered the exact same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    Yup, I wasn't prepared for such an end.

    The problem I see is that she ordered 3 illusions... one of them could be "make Saki believe Ohsugi is someone else and a serial rapist..."

    That ep definetely was something else, If someone had told me about it, I probably wouldn't care and like it... But seeing it was really enjoyable I have to say.

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    If gg's subs are to be taken accurately, it's 3 pieces of illusion material which she hired, making this all very weird. I've come across the speculation that she died while jumping off the building, and the one flying off into the distance was an illusion. Her symbol for number 11 hadn't blacked-out yet though, meaning she's still alive, but it doesn't rule out the illusion part.

    The fact that Shiratori called the man "horrible", then the surprised look at the name Ohsugi tells me the man she initially caught really was the rapist, and not an illusion in itself.

    Like ahove, I agree it was quite the episode.

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    Wait... wut?

    That was cool to watch and everything, but quite the confusing ending

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    Great episode. His cash will run out quite fast if he keeps making huge purchases like that :P I don't think the guy is Ohsugi but I am not sure. I wish this series was around 20 episodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrlderek
    Great episode. His cash will run out quite fast if he keeps making huge purchases like that :P I don't think the guy is Ohsugi but I am not sure. I wish this series was around 20 episodes.
    Its only going to be 11 episodes long. And a movie will be released afterwards this same year on Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    Its only going to be 11 episodes long. And a movie will be released afterwards this same year on Japan.


    But this is the only really good show this season ;_;

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    So she bought the hotel back from him...interesting. Was that just so she could pull off that illusion, or does Akira get his money back from that?

    I have to admit, as much as I hated her to the core the previous episodes, Shiratori was disturbingly likeable this episode. She knows damn well she is a murderer, was one before she became a Selacao (which gives her a lot of credibility and integrity because the money didn't change her at all), and quite frankly, she has her own individual charm, albeit a little creepy.

    My guess is that the three illusions are the realistic wings, the supports (for her and the pervert floating), and the helicopter to blow out the windows and take her away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    So she bought the hotel back from him...interesting. Was that just so she could pull off that illusion, or does Akira get his money back from that?
    Yes, that part had me confused a bit. Was it the animators who stuffed up, and tried to make all the Yen match up forgetting that the hotel purchase was made by Akira, or did she really buy it back?

    It's hard, since it could be either, depending on whether that history was for XI only, or total-history from everybody. I'd like to think they didn't screw up. Then it explains why no one stopped Saki going up there.

    So where the hell was Ohsugi this whole time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    It's hard, since it could be either, depending on whether that history was for XI only, or total-history from everybody.

    So where the hell was Ohsugi this whole time?
    The histories have always been shown on a per-Selacao basis. Their number is highlighted, and it only shows their individual requests. If they have it selected, they can get alerts every time a particular Selacao makes requests. She bought it back for some reason.

    Ohsugi was probably home, working off his hangover, and crying about Saki this whole time.

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    I'm confused, he was the rapist, but he had Ohsugi's bag? The one with the club logo?

    It had me making a "wat" face all through the ending, but I enjoyed it... I'd like to get my hands on some of that illusion material...
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    I hope the next episode will bring some definite answers, but I wouldn't count on it (I do hope we at least learn what happened to Ohsugi). Saki learned quite a few strange bits of info in any case. I'd hope that makes her and Akira closer, even if it makes her more suspicious of Akira.

    I don't think we yet know if Selecao can earn money back into their Selecao accounts. Even if XI bought the hotel back, the money might have disappeared for good. In a certain sense that would make even more sense considering the game was to see who could do the most good with a definite amount of starting money. Still, managed hotels normally bring steady operational profit and that might have gone somewhere more permanent. Considering Akira is living in an empty mall, he's not the smartest person with money, though, in any case.

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    I doubt you can earn the money back. You can certainly use that money to earn more money and keep it in the bank. If depositing it back into the phone was possible, crooks could prolong their lives while barely fulfilling the requirement of being "good for the country".

    Plus, I think the point of dying after 10bil was used up was so they had to use it wisely. With such a large sum, if you can't realise your image with it, then you're probably not fit in the first place.

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    I was actually more than a little surprised how little money Shiratori had spent in comparison to the detective. I had expected her account to be fairly low, but she had (and now has again) just as much money as Akira.

    I guess the difference is that while the detective used cop bribes to have people assassinated, Shiratori does all the work herself, and only has Juiz do the cleanup, which is apparently very cheap.

    I hope we see more of her soon, but we probably won't.

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