Naruto Chapter 441

[Archangel]

OK, you see? There's something totally wrong with THAT.

Just go with the flow

Naruto doesn't suck anymore ( Yes i'm still riding on that high )

[Uchiha Barles]

I hear ya. We've gotten glimpses of this but circumstances (conveniently) always seemed to...delay...this type of thing. I've had a smile on my face since he crushed bitch pain's head with a rasengan xD. You know, I think this is the longest the manga's been on point since the very beginning. So yeah, I'm just gonna enjoy the ride xD.

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

it has been an epic fight... and its still going

[poopdeville]

I hope Pein kills off Hinata from a distance.

[Archangel]

I hope Pein kills off Hinata from a distance.

Yeah he'll have no problem defeating her with whichever limbs he has left after naruto shoves a rasenshruiken up his ass

[-=DS=-S.W.A.T3]

Yeah he'll have no problem defeating her with whichever limbs he has left after naruto shoves a rasenshruiken up his ass

lol Pain of a Thousand Years only with rasenshruiken...ouch

[SilentSnake]

lol Pain of a Thousand Years only with rasenshruiken...ouch

and THEN pein could say he really knows "pain"

all we need now is for someone to photoshop naruto's expression when he first got sennen goroshi by Kakahi up his ass into pein's face in some fancy pic

[Prof. Chaos]

If I remember correctly, when a nin does kagebunshin, isn't his current chakra supposed to be split among the clones (the 3rd vs Oro shows this)? If that is the case, the remaining sage chakra in Naruto (worth 2 Rasenshurikens) should be split among the 3 clones. That means, each clone is not even able to shoot out 1 Rasenshuriken (since 2/3 = obviously less than 1).

Even before this, should the clones be as powerful as Naruto in sage mode? Or is only the main body that powerful? Technically, the abilities of the main body should be the same as the clones (reference the 3rd who used an ultimate technique with the kagebunshins), but won't that be absolute hax if the nature chakra is not divided among them equally as well?

Actually he can distribute chakra to each clone depending on the situation. That is why his clones always disappear in one hit, they are weak. While the 3rd was able to make clones equal to himself. Here Naruto could simply be making clones with only like say 1%. He just needs them to make it quickly.

There has to be some sort of deus ex machina for Pain. Unless being in disbelief of what transpired, I was certain Naruto tried this trick before when Pain still had a few more of his bodies.

One last thing, how would Pain go about getting the other bodies out quickly or is he screwed? It looks like he might need to restore some chakra before getting his other bodies back.

Just my 2 cents.

[shinta|hikari]

When was it mentioned that a nin can distribute the amount of chakra to his kagebunshins at will? Didn't the 3rd hokage say that the reason he does not make more clones is because it will equally distribute his chakra to all of them and is too risky? If he can just put a drop of chakra in each clone (like you are saying naruto is doing) then he could have made dozens of clones in his fight with Oro.

I think this is also the reason other nins don't use kagebunshin all that much. Unlimited chakra is indeed Naruto's redeeming point.

Also, I think all Kagebunshins, no matter who makes them, disappears after one hit.

[FireEmblem]

A probably more accurate way to put it is that you could use 1% of your "stamina". If I recall correctly, the way you get chakra is by converting stamina into chakra. So if you only converted 3% of your max stamina into chakra and made 2 kage bunshins, they would in essence have 1% stamina/chakra.

Remember Naruto has immense stamina. If just making kage bunshins really did divide all of your chakra evenly, even someone with immense chakra would run out way too fast for it to be a viable technique. But what you do is only convert a little bit of stamina into chakra so that you're not wasting away your stamina/chakra reserves. This ties in with the discussion about using jutsus in an efficient way. Remember when they explained how you could waste chakra if you weren't proficient or smart?

[shinta|hikari]

Here you go. I was lucky at guessing the chapter, so it took only 3 minutes to find it.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/120/14/

[Pandadice]

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Clone_Technique

yeah, i'd say it is divided evenly.

maybe the 2 rasenshurikens rule is assuming that he's only going on 1/3rd chakra, so even though he gets triple chakra after disbanding the clones, it wouldn't count towards another rasenshuriken because he wouldn't be able to form the three clones needed. i dunno.

naruto did 3 clones (were there more?) in the kakuzu fight, and he did a rasenshuriken, then instantly pulled another one out right after it. so when he's in sage mode and has just been refreshed with a new clone's sage chakra... i don't think it matters.

all i care about is reading next weeks chapter...

[Archangel]

o, I think all Kagebunshins, no matter who makes them, disappears after one hit.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/123/08/

Sarutobi's clones lasted a few hits

[shinta|hikari]

Yes, I read it in wiki as well. One or two hits then.