Let's Roll!
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"Always be yourself... unless you suck."
+1Originally Posted by Penner
It's crazy how strong Aizan was back then, epic stuff! Now the fights will have a lot more meaning to them when the Vaizards catch up to him.
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And we finally reach Bleach's last episode. Do yourselves a favor and don't try to see next episode... a Casshern parody? They have 100 more damn years before Ichigo is around and they decide to do this? BLEH!!!
The episode was brilliant. And I insist... the Shinigami are morons. The Old man captain, those old bats of the council and the current captains are all idiots.
The last screen with the Vaizards was epic.
9/10 for this arc overall, so well done... It reminds me of the quality Bleach had back in the SS days. Very consistent art, animation, and pacing all the way through. The only reason I don't give it a 10/10 is because of the censoring. It's really too bad Bleach switched to an earlier time slot.
By the way, even though the next episode(s) is technically filler, it is based off a little skit that the manga author created(just like the Don Kanonji episodes back in the day). So it might be worth it to check it out.
Great episode, but I really wish that Aizen had fought against Urahara and Tessai for more badass action. Tessai hurling that spell was already destructive enough to make me demanding for more between them, but it was interesting, for the most part, on how Urahara tried to save them. It's great to see the Vaizards leave to fight, at least.
I am training in the shadows.
Currently playing: All of your games, probably.
Sigh...
Soul Society is just...infuriatingly retarded.
I can honestly say now that I'm super glad Aizen already murdered everyone in room 46 because they were all dipshits.
It's exactly as RZ says, they're all morons.
It's weird because the previous arc gives the impression that Urahara and the Captain-commander might not have been on such bad terms. But then you realize what actually happened is they spent 100 years hating Urahara, and then the SS arc happens and they're like "Yeah, um, so you remember 100 years ago when you said Aizen was the badguy? Well turns out you were right so we'd like to work together with you again."
I was wondering who was going to replace Aizen, Gin and Tousen as captains before now, but now I suspect when the Hueco Mundo arc ends they'll probably just give Youruichi, Urahara and the other guy their Captaincies back.
Also, wtf is up with SS's punishment scale? Urahara's crime is essentially murdering 8 captains and vice captains and he gets banished, while Rukia lends some guy her powers and she gets execution?
*sigh* at least the Vizard were badasses to balance out all the frustration this episode gave me.
And interesting that Time and Space Kidou is apparently "forbidden".
It's true that Urahara's punishment seemed a little weak for what happened. But you're forgetting that Aizen was already in control BEFORE Rukia was brought back to SS. So he was the one who decided the sentencing.Originally Posted by DarthEnder
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I felt this ep was really well done, especially the end, it looked just like I had imagined when I read it. Inspiring, badass, awesome. It's too bad we may never get to see the aftermath of the Vaizards 'roll' since the show is so close to the manga now and the current arc has dragged on so long they may have to to pull a pseudo-Naruto in order to tell the story without breaking up every single arc to the point where it's just ridiculous.
Here's to hoping they wise up and try to give us another long coherant arc like the bount or Amagai arcs instead of a bunch of throw away oneshots that completely depower the main characters and downplay all the serious elements of the series in favor of the slapstick elements. But if they want to go slapstick most of the Vizored are established as pretty funny, maybe sticking them in early 20th century Japan without a clue could be entertaining.
If they make some comedy-based filler eps i really want more of Ichigos family matters with his Dad, man he is fucking hilarious....DEADLY DADDY SLIDE!...ahaha that shit still cracks me up ;P
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"Always be yourself... unless you suck."
Yea because the General Commander wasn't the one that exiled everyone since it was the Central 46's decision and General Commander was also subjected to such treatment as well (using Amagai Sucksuke's example of denying the General Commander of any search warrant against the Kasumi family). I'm pretty sure he bears no malice towards Urahara, Tessai, and the Vaizards. The other time that he acts like a douche, he claims to be following the rules, but I agree. I'm glad that Aizen decided to kill everyone in the Central 46 chamber.Originally Posted by DarthEnder
The things I hope for are better story, powerful enemies to keep us entertained, new ally characters that are likable, and a satisfying end to the arc. Bount arc was fairly good, but they could have done better. Amagai Sucksuke arc totally destroyed that illusion because it started off as something good, with a potential, but ended up with a weak basis, horrible, horrible reason for revenge, and two characters that follow the princess around and annoyingly belittles Ichigo with their haughtiness.Originally Posted by Yukimura
Last edited by Nadouku; Wed, 03-25-2009 at 11:20 AM. Reason: Added a response to Yukimura's post.
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Currently playing: All of your games, probably.
I think I would have liked the Amagai arc if it hadn't existed in this weird limbo timeline, so it FELT even more fillerish.
The bount are was good because it built slowly, had many powerful enemies, and it took place in the place it was actually located in in the series.
The amagain arc built up slowly, but it only had two enemies that didn't suck, and it took place outside the series timeline.
I think the biggest dropped ball was the series of arcs that took place after they introduced the arrancar and Grimmjow, but before they went to Heuco Mundo. They had a period there where a normal Hollow Arrancar would have made an enemy of believable power before the series jumped to the Espada's power level, but they wasted it on a relatively brief arc.
The second arc I think was a missed opportunity was the one with the Adjuchas when they first got to Hueco Mundo. It was a good setup, with an interesting concept, but it was wasted on weak main villains and was way too short. Granted, non-Arrancars shouldn't have posed much of a threat, but they could have easily written it that the main characters were drastically weakened upon entering Heuco Mundo until there bodies could adjust(much like during the beginning of the Bounto Arc, Ichigo couldn't use Bankai in the real world until he adjusted to the earths spirit particles, which I think was a damn fine piece of work-around writing).
Having a good coherent filler storyline is certainly a lot to ask for but I'm more afraid of Narutoization than I am of another Amagai/Bount level attempt that flops over all. I'll take the Amagai arc again before I want to see Bleach descend to the level of the Curry of Life and protecting Elvis impersonators or other such nonsense.
Originally Posted by Yukimura
I'm Totaly With You Coz i'm Afraid of The Same Thing
I agree with the person who said that the Central 46 getting slaughtered was a good thing. This episode was awesome and this was a good end to the arc. Despite having read the mangas, it does not compare seeing it come to life in the anime.
This would be badass.Originally Posted by Yukimura
Someone should write a fanfic about this at least...
I see a lot of comments on Urahara being banished and all that and comments on Captain Commander Genryuusai being dumb for letting it all slide and whatnot. I trust you guys get what I'm pointing at.
To me, from the sounds of what Yoruichi was saying, as well as the Vaizards, Urahara knew what was going on and had planned for it down to every little detail. The way that he and SS are working together currently, I'm led to believe that Yama-jii KNEW about what was going on, but was unable to do anything directly due to Central 46.
This being the case, he very well may have sent Yoruichi to break out Urahara, and allow them to secret themselves in the real world (hence why no one has ever been sent to hunt down Urahara or the Vaizards) in preparation for Urahara's plan for the worst-case scenario.
If Yama-jii were completely clueless to the plan and Aizen, he would have long since hunted down Urahara and the Vaizard as traitors. The facts that Urahara receives SS supplies and is freely visited and ordered by SS personnel makes me think that he is indeed supported behind the scenes.
Even tough he is an idiot, he might have indeed realised back then everything is not what it looks like, and thus didn't pursue Urahara any further. However, that doesn't even need to be the case. The man is always following rules, traditions, and the most obvious route to the letter. Central 46 having banished Urahara, he didn't do anything more, because that was the sentence. Searching for the vaizards would have most likely meant disclosing the case for a number of people, which probably was denied by Central 46 (under Aizen's influence).
What comes to Yoruichi, she wouldn't have needed anybody's help or encouragement. She's obviously very fond of Urahara and would have saved him and his project in any case, and surely was capable of that on her own.
Based on this episode I wonder if Tousen is in fact kind of like the blind guy in Rurouni Kenshin; masking his mortal fear and inferiority to Aizen under pretty words of justice and principles. This small arc made me think he's even more full of shit. Well, he's most likely the first to die of these three, so it's ok.
I'm not sure I understand those who say Central 46 and Yama are idiots: Aizen's power allows him to make anyone believe anything, with perhaps only the slightest of tendency towards that belief (basically it has to be plausible, I would assume: we haven't seen enough of it to know really), or maybe its a trust issue.
Regardless, you can't blame Central or Yama for anything that happened while Aizen was in SS. That would be like blaming a rape victim for being raped.
It's not like all the people there were Aizen's puppets. Rukia's totally out of proportion sentence didn't mean anything to him, not even when a portion of the captains went against it. The oldest among the captains, no less. Anyway, Aizen's plots have been running under his nose for more than a century and he didn't have a clue at all. The man is an idiot. I don't know why you try to defend him. I'm sure he would be a jolly good commander as long as the only enemies are consistently ugly hollows and the only inside trouble is drunken disorderly behavior.