Maybe your impressive intellect is satisfied with this "my powerup is bigger than yours" bullshit but i like to think that the rest of the fans of the series are hoping for a little more than that from this series.Originally Posted by digitalrurouni
News flash, ever since soul society arc was introduced, bleach has been all about "my powerup is bigger than you" with a smart plot twist here and there.
Seriously... welcome to 7 years ago.
Also, this isn`t the first arrancar to have 2 release states, Ggio Vega has two as well.
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I still hope for the days when they did it without looking completely cheesy and unrealistic
And that wasn't really a second release, all he really did was get bigger so i don't think it counts.
Ulq's appearance changed quite a bit so it's either his true ability that's about to be shown or arrancar's above 4 really do possess a "bankai" of sorts.
If that's true it will only make the next powerup that more retarded
If you read a couple of his posts you really wouldn't be that surprised by that statement
get Hichigo back into the scene plz, it's getting lame. need to see a psycho back into the picture and laughing like a maniac.
I'm pretty sure there's some way a writer can create an exciting shonen manga without the premise that all its reader will consist of babbling idiots
Really, the simple fact that you seem to enjoy this idiocy so much only serves to prove my point, that for a long time Kubo's writing seems something a 10 year old could come up with
Wow Archangel haha feel pretty big talking shit with people over the internet eh? Take a chill pill dude. Its just a little manga after all...not real life. If you are looking for intellect in some anime/manga series you must have none yourself lol.
I agree with Dansetsu wholeheartedly. Its all about being over the top and ridiculous and cool! If I want intellect I will open up a book on software development, or quantum mechanics, etc.
Thanks man I appreciate it a lot. I think that most people that read this stuff will know that they can have half the mind to know that they should be reading this stuff for getting away from the daily life and trouble of getting into the main events of having something happen to them that they can get away from in the first place. I mean if they read this stuff on a daily basic then why would they be reading it in to begin with? Wouldn't you read this to be enlightened and know that you should be having something in your life worthwhile in the mean time to technically "get away" from the all of the commotion in life? Why would you read this stuff if you know that you'll be getting away with thinking that it's true in the first place? You wouldn't right? So then don't read the stuff in the first place if you can't just let go from the daily grind and let it all go. This stuff, manga, should be read to get away from the daily grind as it were as humans to relief ourselves and let go so to speak. I know I'm talking in circles, but I finally like this anime and manga and am getting used to knowing that it could be good for once. Powerful people are being introduced and getting to know something to get away from work, walking the dog, fuck just taking something from the fridge to eat and enjoy as taste buds should. Having something in your life like this is important I mean even healthy to have in your life. Albeit if only for once a week and then it's gone in the mainstream of things in life.
To me, seeing to imaginary guys with powers and swords go at it back and fourth like crazy with tons of power ups, that's what I need. Good art, good writing and some good settings to back them up. Throw in a little bit of power and you have something that can be good for a decent laugh and a good read to get away from it all in the first place, you know what I mean. I'm not trying to defend myself I'm just trying to get to know the manga well and get something fun out of it. If it means getting all heated up over something that I finally like then ok. If that means defending myself then ok too. Bleach to me wasn't something that just came along and that I could enjoy myself to begin with. This arc is something to think about to me. I'm a powerhouse whore as well. So seeing Ulquiorra go nuts and get crazy strong is something that to me at least, can be a good read at the end of the week on the internet. At least worth a decent internet connection to download a chapter or two for the hell of it. Daily life or real events shouldn't be applied in this case. So I think that reading this for a good story is all fine and well, but tying it up with lots of "real life things" comparing it to a real life man with wings and being able to fly, and over all just applying a power cap with common sense, seems a bit of a ruse to me. I mean don't get me wrong a good story is important to me, but lets face facts here.
1. Even though he can fly already in that world, he shouldn't be attacked for releasing. Kubo should be commended for being so creative with his design.
2. He's a number four espada. That's really high on the list. And he's a former Vasto menos hollow. And yes he is because his mask has the same form of the Vasto shadow silhouette. This is verified and if you want just look here.
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ulquiorra_Schiffer
3. He has wings for gods sake!! Who the hell cares if he has some? Do you really think that his hair and stuff would go well without them now? No I don't. So it works with him Kubo did a good job designing him.
So yes I think that he should be thought of as a good and strong character with a great new design. End of story. Simplify it people.
The irony. You talk about simplificaton yet you write a wall of text for Bleach. Ridiculous.
My question though is what revelation does this whole transformation bring? Does this second form mean that the top 4 espada's have a second release equivalent to the captain's bankai's?
Yes I would think that it would be. That would make the most sense to me. If not then what I waxed on about in the earlier giant post was all pointless. In fact I'd say that they're stronger than the captains bankai's, if not at least equally matched with them or on par with them. Especially if the bankai is pointless and can be avoided. Yes I'm talking about captain sevens giant samurai man. He's massive, but it can be avoided. A released top four espada can probably take down anyone at this point in the game, yes except Aizen I'll admit that. But yeah they're strong.
Personally, I always thought the higher ranked Espada would have two releases. Their first release is very similar to a zenpaktou's shikai. Why wouldn't they have a bankai? It's the power of their sword that's doing this.
Its not the random 'omg my power is bigger than your power' thing that bothers me. It's pretty common throughout all manga. What bothers me is the excruciatingly slow pace Kudo is moving the story. In soul society, Kudo moved the story with flow and purpose. Here, I'm just getting the sense that he's throwing up random fights with no name Fraccion and lieutenants just to buy himself some time while he thinks up a plot.
whereas other anime like One piece and naruto, you feel that the author has planned everything out in advance, and you can't wait to find out what happens next. Here, I'm just sticking out in the hope that Kudo returns to his halcyon days of Soul society....
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Anyways, back on topic. I hope Ulquorra kills Orohime. Judging from Ishida's monologue and Ulquiorra's speech about how he will show ichigo 'true despair'. It seems perfectly logical. And will get this series the jumpstart it needs
Anyone else thought of KISS when they saw Ulqui's second hollow transformation? XD
Its exactly what I thought he was going to do when he said those are the words of someone who doesn't know despair but instead he underwent a completely unnecessary transformation.I hope Ulquorra kills Orohime. Judging from Ishida's monologue and Ulquiorra's speech about how he will show ichigo 'true despair'. It seems perfectly logical. And will get this series the jumpstart it needs
Anyone else thought of KISS when they saw Ulqui's second hollow transformation? XD
Now that you mention it, yes.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
See, the problem with all of this is, there is a storm on the horizon. Kubo has so much set up, just waiting to be unleashed. But all this crap is just stalling and delaying the inevitable. When shit starts hitting the fan, it's going to hit hard and fast, I assure you. But it's almost torture getting there @.@
By hard and fast do you mean crazy fucking fights that will be huge and destructive? Because it seems like Stark really doesn't want to fight Kyoraku. Although he seems to be pushing for the fight in more ways than one. Obviously some people have already started fighting like Halibel and the kid captain. So technically the shit has already started to hit. I just hope the fights get bigger and crazier along the way.
Those fights are child's play. I don't mean those. I mean the Vaizards, Ichigo's father (perhaps even Ishida?), Urahara, and something tells me Aizen will get to the realm of the god, and we might get to see the royal guard come into play.
There's so much set up here that hasn't even been touched, and THAT's what I'm referring to. Even those other captain fights and higher ranked Espada, that's just the tip of the ice berg.
Oh well yeah I agree. But those fights are epic in standards. Those are beyond captain vs captain stuff. I don't think we'll be seeing those anytime soon.
And on another power level talk. Why does everyone seem to think that Urahara is like epicly strong? Yeah he easily became a captain, but we haven't even seen his bankai or his shikai. All we've seen him do is take down a few prison guys bare handed with no sword, and quickly be able to dodge the attack from his lieutenant. Other than that I haven't really seen why people think he's so strong. Ichigos dad, yeah he's a royal guard member and ex captian. Aizen, of course. But urahara? I don't know about that one.
True enough, the only question is how many years it'll take to get there.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Dan :
They've shown urahara's shikai both in the manga and anime. He used it when Ulquiora and Yami first came, where he and yorouichi beat them back. "Cry benehime!" it's been so long though.
And I can't quote exactly what he said but when he was doing bankai training w\ ichigo he was saying that his bankai wasn't something that saved people.... or something that made it sound like it was really destructive - idk.
With that said, hopefully Urahara shows up soon and saves the manga!
Yeah actually I just watched the fight a while back on Youtube. I don't remember him talking about his bankai during the training though. Interesting, so his bankai isn't common in nature or usefulness? I guess the writers didn't elaborate on it enough.
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