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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    She's a strong candidate for the main character's love interest, so how exactly is she not important?
    Personally I don't think she can qualify as the main character's love interest when her whole appearences through almost 50 volumes of manga can't be added to fill 1 volume.

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    i hope hinata isn't dead but if naruto can't get re-sealed by yamato see might not last long

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honoko
    Hahha... I dunno, I haven't been back long enough to know what Abdula is like. I'm just criticizing the mangaka's method of storytelling. I acknowledged the long history Hinata has with Naruto. I just didn't like the way he had her popping out of nowhere. That's all.
    He's a smug bastard who cries every time someone enjoys reading naruto

    And she didn't pop out of nowhere, she had been watching naruto get beaten to a pulp by quite some time now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Hah, actually....I did kind of see it the same way as Honoko when I read the translations. At first I thought they were fake translations...since it seemed too ridiculous/spontaneous.
    Well i do agree with that but not because of hinata's actions, just because the 6 tails "explosion" seemed a bit too unrealistic to me; he should at least have shed a tear or something.

    I'm just enjoying thinking about how much they're gonna stretch that out when they finally animate it

    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    Personally I don't think she can qualify as the main character's love interest when her whole appearences through almost 50 volumes of manga can't be added to fill 1 volume.
    Quality over quantity, Zell

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmanj
    Something tells me that Pain wanted this to happen.
    Yeah I'm pretty sure that was his intention. He seems to identify with Naruto so he's going to put him to the test to see whose pain is greater..
    Quote Originally Posted by Honoko
    I just find it weird how you guys continue to heap praises on how the whole scene with Hinata was handled. Sure, she had a long history with Naruto but her lack of panel space in the last 50 or so chapters provided no emotional drive when she suddenly professed her love and then got brutally offed in this chapter.

    Basically, there was no buildup for her to act wildly out of character. I don't mind characters going 180 and doing something unexpected but this one's too much of a stretch to accept.
    Yeah the long history you mentioned is the buildup, we didn't need to see her in the last fifty or so chapters, I don't really like when writers do things like that anyway, bring in a long forgotten character and have them get close to the protagonist just so their death has a greater impact. Anyway I think her lack of panel space in the last few chapters is what made this work because no one saw it coming. And as for acting out of character, given the situation, she probably thought Naruto was going to die and she obviously knew if she tried to intervene then she was probably going to die so what reason is there to hold back? Well atleast I thought it was well done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    it wasn't bothering me that Neji spotted the toad, what felt weird is that he immediately recognized it as Jiraya's frog, rather than saying "big frog summoned creature", or "naruto's frog". the first would imply he's surprised to see a summon in the village, and the later would imply that he knows Naruto can summon frogs.
    it's simply that I can't recall any reason that Neji should have prior relationship with Jiraya that would allow him to say that frog's are Jiraya's summon, and a much more reasonable response for him would be to associate the frog with Naruto.

    it's nothing serious though, maybe in the anime Neji worked once with Jiraya and Naruto, hell if I know
    The sannin are world renowned ninjas, and Jiraiya goes around riding on toads and calling himself the toad sage. Back when they were first introduced the only person who didn't seem to know who they were was our dimwitted protagonist.

    Anyway awesome chapter, easily one of the best chapters of Naruto ever, if not the best and Pain has without question cemented himself as my favorite character. Too bad Itachi, it was good while it lasted.
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    I disagree. I didn't find her death boring at all. I'm actually looking forward to future chapters more, because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Quality over quantity, Zell
    Quantity indeed we don't have with her.

    But I kinda missed where we got Quality from her. Since her battle with Neji she's never shown anything worth seeing.

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    Personally, I'm a big fan of how this chapter was done, because I'm not seeing it in a vacuum. Hinata's "selfishness" has been forshadowed during the last few chapters, which prevents the story teller from having to stuff all of those panels into one chapter and have people complain "god, too much Hinata for nothing, and then she attacks pain? god, she's so dead next week, this chapter sucked." Every week I go back several chapters and reread them to get an overall idea of what's happening. Someone mentioned it feels like a different writer all together. I'm going to say it feels like the same writer trying a different method. And I think it's working out well.

    Prediction for the next couple of weeks. Naruto has his own version of shinra tensei with the demon energy. He used his chakra in his fight against Sasuke to repel a fireball attack (gokakyu no jutsu?). He then used it against kabuto to break every bone in his body. I'm expecting a giant collision of shinra tenseis a la gohan vs. cell, filled with all the pannels showing each fighter's struggle to over power the other.

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    Hinta express her love confession, furthermore ultimately sacrifice her life. Naruto lost control and turn kyubbi mode and not only that he has 6 tails instead of the max 4 tails, to top it off Pein claims its time to take Naurto out..... it seems to rushed...... it was a perfect oppurtunity to show Hinta's growth hence the time skip but it seems Kishi had "other" plans.
    "The End Justify The Means"

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    Quote Originally Posted by paper mache
    Hinta express her love confession, furthermore ultimately sacrifice her life. Naruto lost control and turn kyubbi mode and not only that he has 6 tails instead of the max 4 tails, to top it off Pein claims its time to take Naurto out..... it seems to rushed...... it was a perfect oppurtunity to show Hinta's growth hence the time skip but it seems Kishi had "other" plans.
    But he did show her growth, the flower blossomed and the flower died. If you were expecting to see Hinata hold her own against Pain then I think you're asking for too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    But he did show her growth, the flower blossomed and the flower died. If you were expecting to see Hinata hold her own against Pain then I think you're asking for too much.
    I didn't expect for Hinata to stand a chance with Pein, atleast Kishi could've let her hold her own for more then 2 seconds..........
    "The End Justify The Means"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    But he did show her growth, the flower blossomed and the flower died. If you were expecting to see Hinata hold her own against Pain then I think you're asking for too much.
    That being said, I am now looking forward to seeing if Gai's team can do something useful for the first time in a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    it wasn't bothering me that Neji spotted the toad, what felt weird is that he immediately recognized it as Jiraya's frog, rather than saying "big frog summoned creature", or "naruto's frog". the first would imply he's surprised to see a summon in the village, and the later would imply that he knows Naruto can summon frogs.
    it's simply that I can't recall any reason that Neji should have prior relationship with Jiraya that would allow him to say that frog's are Jiraya's summon, and a much more reasonable response for him would be to associate the frog with Naruto.

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    Well, Neji is a Jounin, and Jiraiya is kind of famous in the ninja world. I can believe that. And yea, that guy who yelled out "Hinata!" Was a giant idiot...Very unninjalike.
    Last edited by rockmanj; Fri, 02-27-2009 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narasho
    That being said, I am now looking forward to seeing if Gai's team can do something useful for the first time in a long time.
    I'm not expecting them to do anything on this front, not with a six tailed monster running around but I expect they will lead the search to find Nagato, they are perfect for the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    I'm not expecting them to do anything on this front, not with a six tailed monster running around but I expect they will lead the search to find Nagato, they are perfect for the job.
    Also. i think it will be interesting to see Neji's reaction to Hinata's apparent death.

    Will he stay his usual cool self or will he lose it and go after Pain?
    Last edited by Archangel; Fri, 02-27-2009 at 04:33 PM.

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    Someone mentioned it feels like a different writer all together. I'm going to say it feels like the same writer trying a different method. And I think it's working out well.
    I mentioned that it felt like a different writer/artist only because of the way Naruto's actual transformation was handled. I agree that it's working out though. I might be in the minority though when I say that I don't think that killing off characters is such a great way to add epicness and feeling to this whole thing. I would feel that Kakashi's death was wasted if he is actually dead, and the image of his father by the fire will be wasted. That image sticks in my head and it is the most powerful image to represent the doctrine that has been preached about Konoha since the 3rd's death.

    Seriously, here we have Naruto unleashing 6 tails, and Pain is still running his mouth. That shit is pretty badass. And not because I feel like he's going to still own Naruto, but because it's in Pain's character. Another thing I'm liking is the panels with the other Konoha nin doing some logical thinking and maintaining their composure. It feels like they know this is all out war right now and they aren't freaking out, but instead trying to do their part. Finding the source of this chakra is exactly what they should be doing.

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    This just came mind, what about the last shadow clones in frog mountain?

    Will he come into play so the nature energy can somehow return naruto to normal or is he a goner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    This just came mind, what about the last shadow clones in frog mountain?

    Will he come into play so the nature energy can somehow return naruto to normal or is he a goner?
    rofl, dang it. i literally just thought of that and came to post the question, only to see you just beat me to it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandadice
    rofl, dang it. i literally just thought of that and came to post the question, only to see you just beat me to it .

    bah i beat you both to it in the spoiler part of ch 437 thread =)

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    hmm guys am I missing something, I seem to recall Neji's life belonged to Hinita since she was of the main family & he was the branch family with him having a seal to take his life to keep her alive as a form of protection for the primary family to keep the blood limit alive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro411
    hmm guys am I missing something, I seem to recall Neji's life belonged to Hinita since she was of the main family & he was the branch family with him having a seal to take his life to keep her alive as a form of protection for the primary family to keep the blood limit alive...
    Wow that is so wrong in so many ways -_-

    Neji's seal is there as a means to control him, meaning that a member of the main branch may end his life at any time he choses and that in the case of his death the secrets of the byakugan will die with him

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