Yes i was quite a powerful hollow, but still just a hollow nonetheless
If he eventually had time to evolve he would surely become insanely powerful but to say that it was more powerful than Ichigo's current state is just stupid
And ofc they had problems keeping up with it, they had a powerful opponent and yet couldn't do anything more than keep a defensive stance during the whole fight
Defensive? Maybe. But they clearly had no quams about seriously injuring Ichigo during their fight or attacking Ichigo back (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/220/03/) and judging by a page a few down from that the vizard who was responsible for doing that didn't expect his arm to grow back that quick (http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/220/06/), if at all.Originally Posted by Archangel
I'd have to go with Archangel on this even though I think he is over simplifying things. Anyway as far as I remember that form was what happened to Ichigo's body when he and his nameless friend were occupied with their battle for control of Ichigo's body. So even though that form maybe extremely powerful like he said its just a brainless hollow so really it shouldn't pose much of a threat to anyone.
What I wouldn't mind seeing is Ichigo's hollow taking over again like it did in Ichigo's battle with Byakuya. That would be cool and if this arc is really just a copy-paste of the SS arc, its bound to happen.
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That would mean that the hollow mask wouldn't be an option anymore since the hollow inside him wasn't subdued anymore
My guess would be another appearance by old man zangetsu
Well the Vaizards implied that keeping your inner hollow suppressed was a constant struggle and the hollow already gave Ichigo notice. He told him that if he ever slipped up then he would become the king and Ichigo would be the horse. I certainly wouldn't mind Ichigo getting beaten to a pulp and then the hollow taking over and taking it to Ulquiorra, for awhile at least, then they could do a nice emotional bit of Ichigo subduing his inner hollow and regaining control because of Orihime. It certainly wouldn't be a first, this is a shonen anime afterall.
Zangetsu huh. I'd completely forgotten about him and I don't know what he could possibly do to help Ichigo in this situation. Anyway I doubt we'll ever see him again because as far as I know he and the hollow are one and the same, he is just suppressed because the hollow is now stronger than he is.
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Last time he got back on the horse he was completely fucked up by the end of it ( remember him falling to the ground while shinji asjed him how he was feeling? ) so i don't really see him getting possessed by the hollow at this point
I would say Zangetsu represents his shinigami powers while whitey represents his hollow powers, so seeing how anti-ichigo is currently suppressed his inner power should adopt old man zangetsu's persona when representing itself to ichigo
That's good enough for me, but I still don't see how he is going to help, unless he reveals some new ability to Ichigo that will conveniently be the key to defeating Ulquiorra.
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Last time he showed up Ichigo was able to defeat ( well it was more of a tie but whatever ) Kempachi, who was recently shown to be more powerful than the 5th espada.
Now add a bankai and a hollow mask to the equation and you'll see what i'm talking about.
quick question, should Sado also get a power-up if he goes outside the tower?
Ichigo and Ishida are both already there, and they're fighting to save Inoue, so it would seem like this is the perfect time to bring out a three-men tag team to win by teamwork and desire to protect their friend.
on more rational aspects and outcomes, bringing back zangetsu does seem like a good idea. Ichigo masking himself and unmasking the hollow to reveal his true shinigami powers!
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The tower itself doesn't hurt a hollows power, its just that the gran rey cero and an espada's release ( one who's over the rank of 4 ) are so powerfull that they might destroy the whole thing, so they're forbidden to perform while inside it.
( i think thats the mistake you made concerning chad but i could be wrong )
didn't the guy Rukia fought also say something about the effects of going outside the tower?
I can't remember because it's been so boring at bleach lately, But I'm pretty sure the moon light had some strengthening effect on them.
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No, he did remark U had left the tower but i assume he was only surprised that Ichigo was strong enough to force the 4th espada to release his sword
would be cool if there is another ascension of a shinigami that your sword spirit completely merges with your real body and have a super shinigami -.- but yea just would be cool...or yea maybe ichigo has a hidden skill Zangetsu will show him-.- *anti-flame shield*
Personally I'm hopping we see Ichigo gain some sort of hollow power up, remember we haven't seen Ichigo use Cero or any other hollow powers yet. I think it would work better if the power up Ichigo got in order to win this fight was complete mastery of his inner hollow. The only real reason I think this would work better though is that it would keep up with the mirroring this are is doing of the Soul Society arc.
For example Rukia Kidnapped = Orihime Kindnapped (in both instances Ichigo wasn't strong enough to stop either of these events from happening), Ichigo vs. Grimmjow (although the power up he seemed to get from this wasn't really explained, however I'm sure most of us can agree he did get some form of powerup) = Ichigo vs. Kenpachi, Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra = Ichigo vs. Kuchiki Byakyuya (In this fight he showed he had mastered his Shinnigami skills by using Bankai, so by the same logic he should master his inner hollow in this fight). In short Soul Society was about his Shinigami powers so Hueco Mondo should be about his hollow powers.
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In my opinion, Tite has been wasting away the potential of his characters with his stiff limitations (Shikai -> Bankai -> Vaizard -> King's Seal). Ichigo has yet to master his Shinigami skills, despite "mastering" the ability to transform into Bankai form. Getsuga Tenshou remains to date to be the only move in his vast arsenal of Shinigami skills without on the reliance of "Hichigo" or the pure Hollow form during the Vizard training.
We have yet to see the Bankai forms of Commander, Soi Fon, Unohara, Kyoraku and Ukitake. And the oh-so-anticipated Shikai form of Kenpachi a few chapters back.
Gin and Aizen have yet to show their fruits of the Hyougoku or their Bankai form yet, so I'm anticipating this whenever they come out of that flame Yamamoto casted.
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I was wondering if anyone was going to make that point.
I've been waiting to see what Kyoraku, Ukitake and Unohana can do since we first found out about them.We have yet to see the Bankai forms of Commander, Soi Fon, Unohara, Kyoraku and Ukitake. And the oh-so-anticipated Shikai form of Kenpachi a few chapters back.
Yeah and I would like to see what Tosen can do in a real fight.Gin and Aizen have yet to show their fruits of the Hyougoku or their Bankai form yet, so I'm anticipating this whenever they come out of that flame Yamamoto casted.
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Eh wait what? Shikai? For Kenpachi? Seriously?
Wait I thought Tousen let go off a Bankai when he was fighting Kenpachi...and Kenpachi whupped him!
True but I doubt that is all there is to Tosen, even if it was then, I'm sure he has more to offer now.
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I agree Tousen is probably alot stronger now. But i do think he gave it his all in the Kenpachi fight. He just got paired up with the wrong dude. I think it was Y who once said that "Tousen's bankai would have fucked up almost any other shinigami except a few". Kenpatchi being one that can use his lack of fear, insane reiatsu and exceptional fighting instincts to counter and do exactly what he did in that fight. Byakuya being another that would be able to attack the whole space they where in without knowing where Tousen actually where. But the number of opponents that would be able to fight that complete removal of the sense's are few. So Tousen was just unluck and attacked the wrong dude.
But i do think Tousen has grown much stronger as a fighter since they left SS. I think he would be able to do alot more damage and be a much more dangerous fighter without using his bankai then he where before.
But i'm no Tousen fan. I actually find him annoying. I'm more interested in Gin. I wanna see more about him since we didn't get to see much of him in SS.
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