Lolicon equal child pornography?

[KrayZ33]

What are you saying, I'm not really following, cause FYI anime and whatever do have ratings in place.

I shouldn't have brought that example up.

It was just to make clear that movies, animes and games are considered "dangerous" (couldn't find another word for this) even though they are not real and fictive.


and my point is:

If the lawgiver says (he doesn't but just let us assume so) that *MOVIES* in which people are killed are forbidden,then why should the anime be allowed to show it?

and since the lawgiver says(!) that *MOVIES* in which child pornography is showed are forbidden, why would the anime version be allowed to do so?


the only argument I could find here is, that in child porn, kids are (in fact) abused etc. and even if they say "I want you to do it" they are still too young to know what's good for them.
and in anime nobody is hurt.

but I don't know, doesn't it feel wrong?


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And that's the problem right there that animes are handled the same way as real movies. They're not the same thing, plus child porn is not fictitious... the kids actually perform the act, there's harm. It's not the same, it shouldn't be treated the same.

that's exactly what I mean

but as I said.. it still feels wrong somehow.. it feels different from playing games. I can't explain it myself and that's probably the reason why the whole situation is "blurry" ... and in my opinion you can't deny the ethical values, you can't deny them in computer games either. It's just a matter of how you see "fictive child pornography" and "fictive murder". I think most people look down one fictive child pornography a lot more than fictive murder, because it's not (yet... or probably never will except in Japan) socially "accepted". That doesn't mean "fictive murder" (at least in games and comics) is fully accepted yet, but you will surely agree with me that there is a great difference (which leads me back to the point that this whole story is "new" for the lawgiver, judge and court.


btw if it's true what darkshadow said (that there is also *real* child pornography) then we can't be sure whether he's actually charged for the loli-stuff too. Maybe it was only mentioned by the police which searched through his computer folders, that he also possess fictive material.. or that he also ordered such material from Japan and the press is making more out of it than they actually said