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    complete pwnage...

    i think i'm in denial about kakashi's death. He didn't put up enough of a fight to justify dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven
    Naruto clearly has pressed IDDQD for this fight. Hax!
    I must be getting old, because that went right over my head. Now, if you had said he pressed up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, select, start... I'd be right there with ya.


    I don't mind the Naruto power-up, because its long overdue. We have been hearing for years about how strong he was and how he would and has surpass this person and that person. We have been waiting to see it and now we finally do.

    And just like was said in the last chapter's discussion, everything about this is screaming Goku on Namek. And I don't mind one bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itadakimasu
    complete pwnage...

    i think i'm in denial about kakashi's death. He didn't put up enough of a fight to justify dying.
    I think that everyone is forgetting that at the begining of this arc Gaara was officially dead...

    So Kakashi could be dead at this point, and then be brought back, stranger things have happened.

    All in all, great to see Naruto tear up. Love the fact that he can use the Sage Chakra so well, ultimately he is going to be trumped somehow and someone will step in to help him.

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil
    I think that everyone is forgetting that at the begining of this arc Gaara was officially dead...

    So Kakashi could be dead at this point, and then be brought back, stranger things have happened.

    All in all, great to see Naruto tear up. Love the fact that he can use the Sage Chakra so well, ultimately he is going to be trumped somehow and someone will step in to help him.


    haha sakura naruto team with hinata watching from a dist =O revenge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven
    Naruto clearly has pressed IDDQD for this fight. Hax!
    DOOM!

    Btw I just read the last 3 or so chapters and I'm very disappointed. Naruto is way too predictable its almost saddening.
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    I just wanted to say a couple things concerning the lack of development in Naruto's three years with Jiriyia and this current "3 day hax."

    We did see development within those 3 years, however the results of his training were more dangerous than expected. Jiriyia tried to teach Naruto how to completely control the demon fox chakra, which god knows how long that took, but once he saw the results it was decided that it was a bad idea. What Naruto learned during those 3 years became forbidden to use in normal practice.

    That being said, I believe no other ninja could have mastered the Sage technique even half as fast as Naruto did because of the unique training he's received in the past, including those three years. Naruto excels at chakra manipulation more than anything else, and after learning how to deal and blend chakra that isn't his own for so long, he became a natural learner for Sage mode.

    I think Sage mode is the culmination of all of Naruto's training, and it all lead up to this.

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    I would like to think, that in addition to the demon training he did receive (you're totally right about that by the way), he also polished up on some of the things he was already good at. Namely sneak attacks and diversions.

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    Will you guys get over the 3-hand rasengan thing? Who cares that he needs a clone to do it? If he can create two rasengans with two clones while running at an enemy, then his efforts are better spent improving his other skills. Seriously.

    I'm glad the frogs actually get to contribute to Naruto's fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Will you guys get over the 3-hand rasengan thing? Who cares that he needs a clone to do it? If he can create two rasengans with two clones while running at an enemy, then his efforts are better spent improving his other skills. Seriously.

    I'm glad the frogs actually get to contribute to Naruto's fight.
    I was thinking the same thing, having the frogs in it make it seem more epic in scale.

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil
    I think that everyone is forgetting that at the begining of this arc Gaara was officially dead...

    So Kakashi could be dead at this point, and then be brought back, stranger things have happened.
    And how did Gaara come back? An old person sacrificed their life and gave it to him.

    That is the purpose old people tend to serve in these manga.

    And who is now an old person? Tsunade.

    We have been expecting her to die. Will it be in battle? Or will it be in sacrificing her life so Kakashi can live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Will you guys get over the 3-hand rasengan thing? Who cares that he needs a clone to do it? If he can create two rasengans with two clones while running at an enemy, then his efforts are better spent improving his other skills. Seriously.

    I'm glad the frogs actually get to contribute to Naruto's fight.
    So am I. But that was expected. I mean he trained in their land and knew Jiraiya and the frogs for a while now.

    I don't think the rasengan creation is the issue for me. My issue is that he has to still make contact with someone to have it effectively be used. That's bull crap. If a nuke goes off (rasengan being the nuke in this context) then the plane the nuke drops down from doesn't have to nail the target. He can be off by like a few hundred feet or even meters for that matter. It'll still hit the target it was intended for, and deal massive amounts of damage to anyone in the area. The pilot doesn't need a target painted for him. Give him the city, the coordinates of the city and the city is toast. So long as the nuke isn't a dud, (which in Naruto's case unless it misses which has happened and will continue to unless Kishi does something about that) isn't ever a dud. I know I'm contradicting myself here, but let me explain myself.

    1. It has a huge range of devastation.
    2. It's a pure ball of chakra so if Kakuzu couldn't even stop it, and it tore through Kakashi's glove and burned his hand a little than I'm sure it's full proof.
    3. Why if Naruto is a natural wind affinity, can't he start using other wind based attacks other than his new nuke? I mean double is good and all especially against Pains summons, but he it seems like he should be getting stronger with his wind element.

    I mean why doesn't kishi have Naruto try and get good at some of the more fast maneuverable, useful moves? I don't see why not. Like this anbu member for example:

    http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/000...0100072/09.jpg

    Now that's an effective wind element based attack. That anbu could have been anywhere on that battlefield and have done that move with the same amount of power behind it as anywhere else he would've been standing. It's fast, powerful, and most of all unable to be dodged. Naruto has to rely on his arm getting stronger and stronger to throw it. And it's just much slower than the attack like the anbu used.
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    The rasengans we've seen Naruto use are high damage, high destruction level, hand to hand/close range techniques. There is absolutely nothing wrong with such techniques as long as the fighter has the means to make it connect. Getting at that is like getting annoyed that your fist has to make contact with the opponent for it to have any effect. Or wishing your foot was a bullet instead. Kishimoto even fixed THAT for you all...

    For all I care, I don't mind if he never gets a long range attack so long as he has multiple techniques and diversions to make his close range attacks work.

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    By the way just wondering if anyone noticed how cool the way he used HIMSELF to make the rasengans was! I know you can't really tell how fast things happen just on panels alone, but it looks like he created those rasengans instantly! Because he started running right when the bunshins extended their hands to form them! That is pretty badass, if the kage bunshins for naruto have already evolved to the point where they can actually work together with his main body with such synchronization to actually rasengan two giant summons so quickly!

    Slick chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireEmblem
    ! That is pretty badass, if the kage bunshins for naruto have already evolved to the point where they can actually work together with his main body with such synchronization to actually rasengan two giant summons so quickly!

    Slick chapter.
    well, the clones are basically him, and as long as he creates the clones after deciding what to do with them, you might as well congratulate him on being able to walk a straight line without falling.


    if we end up seeing his clones jumping in and surprising naruto himself, then I'd be impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    We have been expecting her to die. Will it be in battle? Or will it be in sacrificing her life so Kakashi can live?
    I differ in opinion. We haven't seen Sakura really surpass her teacher in everything yet. The time is not right for Tsunade to die.

    As someone mentioned in a previous thread, I too would like to think that the cloak and/or the scroll are really bunshin clones gathering natural energy for Naruto's sage mode.

    1337 chapter though. Best part is that no one can really say where manga is headed right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12345p
    I differ in opinion. We haven't seen Sakura really surpass her teacher in everything yet. The time is not right for Tsunade to die.

    As someone mentioned in a previous thread, I too would like to think that the cloak and/or the scroll are really bunshin clones gathering natural energy for Naruto's sage mode.

    1337 chapter though. Best part is that no one can really say where manga is headed right now...
    What makes you think Sakura is that important that we need to see her do anything?

    Her purpose is a healer now. She heals and punches hard, which is about all we've seen Tsunade ever do. The only thing we've seen Tsunade do that we haven't seen Sakura do yet is summon Katsuyu.

    For Tsunade, as the Hokage, the time IS right for her to die. Naruto's generation (and now even Konohamaru) are able to take on the responsibility of defending (and rebuilding) Konoha. It's time for her to die to pass on the "will of fire."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne

    For Tsunade, as the Hokage, the time IS right for her to die. Naruto's generation (and now even Konohamaru) are able to take on the responsibility of defending (and rebuilding) Konoha. It's time for her to die to pass on the "will of fire."
    To who though? Kakashi is near death. Gai isn't up for it. Naruto isn't nearly ready and it isn't his time. Plus that's officially when the series would end. None of the Byakugan users would be decent enough for it. I mean lets face it. If she dies, even though sixth hokage would be up for grabs, no one is ready to take it on. In terms of leadership, strength, abilities as a ninja etc. No one. The only candidates I would see as a good person (for this particular hokage would be someone with a bloodline limit who has mastered it. We've had people with versatile users who are well balanced and that's been done before (ie the 3rd, the 4th). We need a limit user again like the first.

    1. He controlled the demon beasts
    2. He mastered his control
    3. He could build entire forests and homes from his bloodline limit/wood jutsu.
    4. He led an entire clan to birth a village.

    Now that's someone worthy of becoming a hokage. The only people I can think of are all gone, or rebelled. There are no sharingan users left in the village, and Sasuke wants to destroy konoha not rebuild it. Like I said Byakugan users aren't leader types. They're sub leaders who fight well. Plus they're all taijutsi fighters and that just plain blows for becoming hokage. Even the fourth knew some other jutsus besides his yellow flash (which I still retain sucked because it was only really taijutsu after you break it down) And hokage has to know either a really wide variety of attacks or perfect his bloodline limit. And there isn't anyone there yet.
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    Well, it'd be Danzou(sp) who would take over, wouldn't it? All according to plan.
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    I beleive 85% of the gotwoot population will get a hard on if tsunade dies... >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven
    Well, it'd be Danzou(sp) who would take over, wouldn't it? All according to plan.
    You mean Madara, hint hint lol. I don't know. If he does get it, then that will be a whole new different Konoha coming. I mean, what would he do with it? Butcher it's masses for a war he wants to start? Side with Pain and hand Naruto over? Become one of Pains right hand men and make an agreement with him? Actually, if he (sp) does get the village I can see that last one happening most likely. He'll probably end up forming a pact with Pain and the Akatsuki, (assuming that he isn't already Madara (sp) And this will most likely lead to Konoha not being touched by the "business" the Akatsuki plan to make out of using the beasts to wage war over other villages for profit.

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