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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Dansetsu
    (which I still retain sucked because it was only really taijutsu after you break it down)
    No it wasn't it was a summoning jutsu if recall correctly. How is summoning taijutsu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dansetsu
    http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/000...0100072/09.jpg

    Now that's an effective wind element based attack. That anbu could have been anywhere on that battlefield and have done that move with the same amount of power behind it as anywhere else he would've been standing. It's fast, powerful, and most of all unable to be dodged. Naruto has to rely on his arm getting stronger and stronger to throw it. And it's just much slower than the attack like the anbu used.
    Was it, though?

    The summon barely reacted to it, meanwhile the same creature was sent flying from Naruto's rasengan.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Dansetsu
    To who though? Kakashi is near death.
    As I said earlier, Tsunade's death could come from sacrificing herself to save Kakashi the way whats-her-face did with Gaara.

    Gai isn't up for it. Naruto isn't nearly ready and it isn't his time. Plus that's officially when the series would end. None of the Byakugan users would be decent enough for it. I mean lets face it. If she dies, even though sixth hokage would be up for grabs, no one is ready to take it on. In terms of leadership, strength, abilities as a ninja etc. No one. The only candidates I would see as a good person (for this particular hokage would be someone with a bloodline limit who has mastered it. We've had people with versatile users who are well balanced and that's been done before (ie the 3rd, the 4th). We need a limit user again like the first.

    1. He controlled the demon beasts
    2. He mastered his control
    3. He could build entire forests and homes from his bloodline limit/wood jutsu.
    4. He led an entire clan to birth a village.

    Now that's someone worthy of becoming a hokage. The only people I can think of are all gone, or rebelled. There are no sharingan users left in the village, and Sasuke wants to destroy konoha not rebuild it. Like I said Byakugan users aren't leader types. They're sub leaders who fight well. Plus they're all taijutsi fighters and that just plain blows for becoming hokage. Even the fourth knew some other jutsus besides his yellow flash (which I still retain sucked because it was only really taijutsu after you break it down) And hokage has to know either a really wide variety of attacks or perfect his bloodline limit. And there isn't anyone there yet.
    Come off the bloodline limit garbarge, it's just idiotic to talk about. We know of only a handful of characters with a bloodline limit and everyone wants to talk about bloodline this and bloodline that, like its some great, unbeatable force. Well, several of those bloodline limit users have already been killed. So its not all that great, is it?

    The theme of Konoha, ever since the death of Sarutobi has been the will of fire and passing it on to future generations. They have already talked about Naruto's generation being ready to inherit the will of fire. But, in order for that to happen, the older generation needs to pass on. I have a feeling you'll hear more about that in the coming chapters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    As I said earlier, Tsunade's death could come from sacrificing herself to save Kakashi the way whats-her-face did with Gaara.
    You mean the technique Chiyo developed alone and only she knew about?

    Why should Tsunade revive Kakashi and not random dead ninja from Pain`s attack #414094654198, why not Shizune?

    If she can revive people, why didn`t she revived her brother? how about her boyfriend? Jiraiya? The 3rd? etc etc?
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  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    well, the clones are basically him, and as long as he creates the clones after deciding what to do with them, you might as well congratulate him on being able to walk a straight line without falling.


    if we end up seeing his clones jumping in and surprising naruto himself, then I'd be impressed.
    Well, most of the times before, anything his clones did was wasted movement. They were just cannon fodder for sasuke and other baddies. So i'm surprised they pulled off a maneuver THIS quick without it being a (!) MOMENT where Naruto is the no 1. ninja at surprising everyone.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    As I said earlier, Tsunade's death could come from sacrificing herself to save Kakashi the way whats-her-face did with Gaara.



    Come off the bloodline limit garbarge, it's just idiotic to talk about. We know of only a handful of characters with a bloodline limit and everyone wants to talk about bloodline this and bloodline that, like its some great, unbeatable force. Well, several of those bloodline limit users have already been killed. So its not all that great, is it?.
    How is it garbage when Haku took Naruto and sasuke teaming up to beat? How is it garbage when it took Gaara, and Lee, to beat Kimimaro? And are you telling me that being able to control tailed beasts, (with either sharingan or the firsts' jutsu, take your pick) is bull crap?

  7. #47
    Think of Danzou as the emperor, this is where Naruto becomes a rebel ;]
    Respect the joindate, not the postcount ;P

  8. #48
    You mean like a Hokage in exile?

  9. #49
    Was thinking Jedi, but nevermind...
    Respect the joindate, not the postcount ;P

  10. #50
    Wow awesome chap

    Also while on the discussion of rasengans, if you look closely although he uses the '3 handed technique' to start it... the clones separate and the rasengans are still only a bit bigger then normal size. The next panel shows them about the size of Naruto while the next page shows them about 4 times the diameter of Naruto. so he continues to power it up with just '2 hands' or even just one hand.

    Anyways I am anxious to see what happens... as mentioned its going a BIT too smooth ATM and I bet something will happen.

    ~David

  11. #51
    I would actually like Danzou to take control for a period of time as it would be interesting to see what affects it has on Konoha, not for any particular reason, but the only people I do see becoming Hokage, if Tsunade were to die now is Danzou or Kakashi (if he's alive).

    It was good to see Naruto fight hard and the frogs playing their parts were awesome also.

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    Danzou will probably play it off like:

    See what happens to a Konoha that's lead by a pacifist like Tsunade? Invaders show up and turn it into a crater. Vote for a Konoha that can protect itself.

    I'm Danzou and I approve of this message.
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  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Danzou will probably play it off like:

    See what happens to a Konoha that's lead by a pacifist like Tsunade? Invaders show up and turn it into a crater. Vote for a Konoha that can protect itself.

    I'm Danzou and I approve of this message.
    Aside from the Obama thumping (and by thumping I mean just using his recent ftw as president as a Asser N original), I agree. Konoha needs someone like him. For godssake the village wasn't even ready for Pain. Granted no one was. But, because Danzou is a pure tactician, and a fighter, he'll restore Konoha to a machine of power and a village that is brought back to it's former powerful name. I want to see Konoha as a war machine. I like that. We saw it with Pains mini army taking it down, it's time for a village to get the same feeling.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Dansetsu
    Aside from the Obama thumping (and by thumping I mean just using his recent ftw as president as a Asser N original), I agree. Konoha needs someone like him. For godssake the village wasn't even ready for Pain. Granted no one was. But, because Danzou is a pure tactician, and a fighter, he'll restore Konoha to a machine of power and a village that is brought back to it's former powerful name. I want to see Konoha as a war machine. I like that. We saw it with Pains mini army taking it down, it's time for a village to get the same feeling.
    Konoha wasnt created to be a war machine. The first didnt create Konoha to become a power house, nor was he power hungry like Danzou. I like the idea of the civilized Ninja Village with a "Will of Fire"

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil
    Konoha wasn't created to be a war machine. The first didn't create Konoha to become a power house, nor was he power hungry like Danzou. I like the idea of the civilized Ninja Village with a "Will of Fire"
    So? I agree that the first didn't create for that. But the village has gotten owned by Pain in the past few chapters. So if you're saying that the "will of fire" is there to protect it's people like Naruto is trying to do (and I do emphasize trying, because if you don't consider him to be trying really hard then it goes to the other side of the scale and it's a hax move that somehow in a few weeks of training with frogs got him good) He's getting good to early in my opinion. It's the same thing with Sasuke and his total ownage randomly a few years later from Orochimaru. And, on top of that, how has that "will" of yours contend to raw power and tact? Because every ninja in konoha was almost called to action and killed against Pains forces. That's not much of a will to me. Unless you mean the heart to stand up to anyone, because then I don't care. And at that point you're just getting all sentimental on me and just caring about a good story foundation for the setting. And I don't care about that. You're talking to a guy who doesn't even watch movies for the story lol.

  16. #56
    Where do you guys get that the First didn't create Konoha as a "war machine"? This is the same village that treated Kikashi's father so badly for choosing his teammates over his mission that he killed himself.
    It's been stated over and over that Danzou doesn't agree with the third's policies which Tsunade adheres to. I would say that it seems the first and possibly the second were very war minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boilerph
    Where do you guys get that the First didn't create Konoha as a "war machine"?
    Maybe its because Madara already told us that the villages were founded for the sake of making peace and The First even gave Bijuus to the other villages, as a symbol of that peace, to stabilize the balance of power thus dismantling the "war machine".

    Btw I personally didn't think this was that good a chapter but after reading this thread I think it must have been, it even got Raven and Kai to post. I still don't see it though, a few people have mentioned that this feels like Goku arriving on Namek and that is exactly what I thought when reading this "I've seen this before " This is all too little too late for me.
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    If Pein is Frieza, who is Majin Buu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Maybe its because Madara already told us that the villages were founded for the sake of making peace and The First even gave Bijuus to the other villages, as a symbol of that peace, to stabilize the balance of power thus dismantling the "war machine".

    Btw I personally didn't think this was that good a chapter but after reading this thread I think it must have been, it even got Raven and Kai to post. I still don't see it though, a few people have mentioned that this feels like Goku arriving on Namek and that is exactly what I thought when reading this "I've seen this before " This is all too little too late for me.
    exceptttt it didnt take the entire series for goku to arrive on namek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    If Pein is Frieza, who is Majin Buu?
    We might not be there yet.

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