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    I hope this giving into temptation thing is only limited to this one event. I find it easy to dislike a mentally weak main character. It is one thing if there is an emotional bond, but doing a robot that does not even care about you is kind of pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    but doing a hot robot that does not even care about you is kind of reasonable.


    I'm really wondering why Touya's avoiding Yuki. Understandably he wants to help Misaka, and that's probably all that's on his mind at the time, but he hasn't appeared to be that much of a forgetful character, nor that much uncaring about his relationship with Yuki to leave her hanging.

    Does anybody remember if he and Yuki have ever chatted on the phone etc after Yayoi first warned him? If he hasn't, I'm thinking he's seriously considering Yayoi's proposal (maybe minus the "reward" part) for Yuki's future. If he has, then he really does fail as a boyfriend.

    Eiji also seems a bit weird enjoying one of Yuki's failed takes like that....if he likes change, shouldn't he enjoy listening to the end product of every day to hear how things have changed?

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    Why Touya was avoiding Yuki was on my mind throughout the episode. He really hasn't said anything about it, so it's hard to tell. Maybe he doesn't really know himself. It's possible he feels guilty for spending time with all these other girls (especially Misaki, Yayoi, and for thinking about Rina), and he doesn't know how to deal with it with regards to Yuki.

    It's interesting because Yuki seems to really want to talk to Touya, but there's still a distance between the two of them (given that they don't tell the truth with each other). It makes me wonder how Yuki feels for Touya as well.

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    Haha, i love how the shitstorm is finally starting, and all fronts at the same time.

    We have confusing at the stalker girl-site and that girl that helped her out of the we&#180;re going to rape you-guys scene.

    We have him looking at Misaki&#180;s legs in a telling way.

    We have Rina, who we know likes him.

    We have Yaoi, who finally got him to do "it".



    Basically, anything&#180;s possible from now on. My guess is that he&#180;ll fall for Misaki next, while Yaoi threatens his relationship to Yuki. Of course, from there on is only one way (sorry, this is the point where my fantasy runs wild): Touya manages to "get" Yuki before Yaoi has a chance to reveal her sex-event with Touya. After that, Yuki leaves Touya, who is comforted by Rina. Rina and Touya start going out, when Misika accidentially sees them together, and goes mad. After all, she and Touya have spent quite some time, so she thought something was in the air between them two. This is where Misaki tries to take little revenge on Touya, though, OH SNAP, stalker-girl happens to see Misaki, and, not knowing that it was supposed to be just "a little" revenge, thinks that Misaki wants to seriously harm Touya. Thus, stalker-girl either attacks Misaki OR traps her by leading her to a group of "we&#180;re going to rape you"-guys. Later on, stalker-girl realizes her terrible mistake and goes crazy beyond help. At this point, Touya tries to comfort stalker-girl, which gets Rina angry.
    This is the "before everything clashes"-situation, where everyone has a reason to hate Touya. Who knows what could happen then, haha!!!! XD

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    Please...don't confuse Yayoi with Yaoi. They're completely different

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    I would highly enjoy MFauli's scenario, if it were to happen.

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    Finally got around to the episode.

    I really liked they way Rina admitted her feelings for Touya. Just a simple, "Don't think of me as a Goddess anymore." Saying that she shouldn't be out of his reach, and that she's not something that stands on a pedestal bringing him good fortune (as Misaki or Haruka did by connecting Touya and Yuki). If he's thick, he won't get Rina's deeper meaning, and if not, maybe he'll get the hint and follow her schedule, which he did.

    Mana also admitted how much she admires Touya. She may call him pathetic to his face, but it turns out she was deeply embarrassed/flustered each time he showed up in front of her at the station or at her house. Hence her great concern for which of the girls he hangs out with is actually Yuki. Comparing her own chances perhaps?

    Also shown was how Misaki mentioned a few white lies to Yuki. His father is sick (as they show him at the store), Touya's not around (it would have been trite, but I expected him to be in the next room), and a few other minor details. Was she simply trying to reassure Yuki, or was she trying to slowly erode Yuki's obviously waning confidence?

    It's no wonder their relationship is slowly destroying itself. They were given another opportunity, and they didn't even speak until the end.
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    Since Misaka and Yuki seemed to be on friendly terms, I don't think Misaka was trying to be malicious, but she obviously didn't feel comfortable facilitating connections between Touya and other girls.

    She hesitated for a moment when she picked up, before deciding to say what she did. During that time, I can only think of her having an internal struggle of whether to be nice (like she did), or pretend she got the wrong number or something.

    The fact she said "I'm helping out" instead of "I'm being helped" hinted to me that she, intentionally or not, wanted to convey that she's closer to Touya than what she is.

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    As a Misaki heavy episode, I can't say I really cared for this one at all. It felt very disconnected from the last episode and most of the others.

    When did Touya ever show any affection for Misaki before? He was mostly just helping her out, and now he kisses her and confesses? Where did any of that come from?

    I found Mana's attempt to kiss him, then giving up right at the end a lot more interesting than the entirety of the Misaki plotline in this episode.

    Misaki's only saving grace is that she rejected Touya, and stood up to that asshole club leader at least a little bit this episode. That, and her plot is probably finally over and done with completely.

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    Weakest episode by far, imo. Misaki is really uninteresting and Touya is just beyond annoying. I liked how he just let those pipes fall on her.

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    Eh, I can't believe Touya let those pipes fall on her, but I can't expect much from him. Misaki is really unnerving when it becomes to a point where her character becomes so obsolete that I just lose all interest in any development from her. Decent episode, but don't look too hard.
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    He's still to blame for not at least trying, but Touya wasn't really in range to do something cliche like have the pipes land on his back.

    Remember that Misaki did trip off a box (that Touya was on the other side of) and then into a more open area where the pipes fell on her. Touya was at least a good 2 meters away from her.

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    He had plenty of time. She went over, he stood there, told her to be careful. He watched her fall and still stood there. He then saw the pipes about to fall, and again stood there and all he did was say "Watch Out". Really smart telling that to someone who hit the floor and that was on their stomach.

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    It would have been close had he tried. It's too bad, as I'd rather he get hurt. He can't seem to make up his mind on anything. Where's the willpower? And why did Misaki change her mind? Because what Touya said about Akira, or because she just didn't want to interfere as the play suggested?

    I agree that the Mana portion was the most interesting. That and Yuki still calling.

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    kinda disappointed there wasn't anything about how he kissed the business manager lady.

    Mmm, so i guess Misaki is gonna be with Akira now, which takes one of the girls out of the confusing mess with this guy. Only they brought that young girl he's tutoring into it now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandadice
    kinda disappointed there wasn't anything about how he kissed the business manager lady.

    Mmm, so i guess Misaki is gonna be with Akira now, which takes one of the girls out of the confusing mess with this guy. Only they brought that young girl he's tutoring into it now...
    Misaki wasn't honest with herself, or rather she rejected Touya because that's what she thinks is best for now. After all, eventough Touya was really dedicated to her, she knows Yuki is too strong an opponent for her at the moment, she maybe even understood how Rina might be a problem (not too sure about that one).
    She really likes him, but she understands he's like a little free bird, you can't have him for yourself. She needs him for her alone, she doesn't want to engage herself in a relationship where she suffers.
    Thing is, it's probably because so many girls are around him that she got interrested in him, she maybe knows that deep in herself.

    The problem here is that we have yet another serial playboy, but he doesn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75
    she knows Yuki is too strong an opponent for her at the moment, she maybe even understood how Rina might be a problem (not too sure about that one).

    The problem here is that we have yet another serial playboy, but he doesn't know.
    While the flashback where short-haired Yuki came from behind Touya as he was walking confirmed that Misaki finds Yuki too strong a rival, I don't think very many know about Touya's budding connection with Rina.

    In fact, I think only Akira (to a very limited extent), Yuki (same level, but through naivette), and Yayoi really know. Of those three, perhaps only Yayoi knows of Rina's growing affection for him. I doubt Misaki even knows of any of his relationships outside of the college. Yuki, herself, and Haruka. Mana is aware of (but knows zero details, calling Haruka 'Yuki') quite a bit more, but at present would never believe that Touya knows Yuki aside from the casual high school connection (she called him out for name dropping), and from that, she'd believe him even less if he said he knows Rina.

    Eiji of course, knows everything.

    As for Misaki, I believe her play (and the reason she wanted him to see it) was because it described her relationship with Touya. It's the same reason she wanted him to proofread it. He's too dense to get through the subtext, and quite frankly, so was I. She described it in this episode as she lay injured on the floor, but I really don't care for Misaki enough to have actually paid attention to what she was saying.

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    I was also disappointed they didn't show further on what happened with Yayoi. Did he indulge further? Or was it just a goodnight kiss?

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    I don't know if I'm correct thinking that, but Misaki is the safe choice of a girl.
    She's the most normal and average girl of the bunch, except for her artistic abilities that are quite high, but after all she's in the same studies path as Touya and Yuki (at least when she attented).
    I guess she's needed as a contrast and represents a safe and sound girlfriend, in a way.

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