How traditional... I hope they won't go overboard with this. Though over a year together and not even a kiss does suggest the relationship might be susceptible to insecurities as well. This should give Kosukegawa some self-confidence if nothing else (at least until he finds out it was nothing but a dirty plot).
I personally think this will backfire on them horribly.
Hifumi sees everything through Motoko's eyes, but it doesn't work the other way around. While having Hibiki see that was bad (considering she is the one who loves him the most openly), even if this pushes Kosukegawa and Motoko apart, the second that Sora shows up at the Clan while Motoko is there, Hifumi will have figured out it was all a dirty plot, no matter which of the personalities is in control on the body (even Zero).
Then the next time Hibiki comes out, she'll probably try to kill Sora.
Then again, since Motoko didn't even see it, this will only cause an issue with Hibiki. Mikiri is rather forgiving, and Fujiko is a lot more objective, and might be able to see past it as just some distraught girl, which Kosukegawa will hopefully be smart enough to attempt to explain, rather than being a moron and keeping it a secret. It may not even backfire, just merely fizzle.
I'd be very unwilling to see the usual uber cliched drama that could ensue from Hibiki turning around now and leaving without getting even noticed, thinking Kosukegawa has someone else (yeah, right) and Kosukegawa naturally not saying anything afterwards but remaining unable to forget the whole thing and being tormented and confused by it. Man, I'm sick of seeing shit like that so I really hope Hibiki will storm in and the whole thing will turn moot to Sora.Originally Posted by Ryllharu
In any case, Tsukishima (sp? Lala Gonzales clone) can certainly explain it all away, since she knows exactly the type of person that Sora is. However, she seems to like to interfere in this secretly, which really isn't helping.
The series has usually defied a number of cliches and conventions thus far, so I've got hugh hopes for a refreshing outcome.
Come to think of it, while I consider her first appearance a fusion with Hibiki, they haven't really done a tried and true fusion of Hibiki and Zero, as Fujino and Mikiri both got. Maybe this will be a catalyst, and Sora will get her wish, to witness "black." She will certainly regret it.
Will wait for the next chapter before really commenting... interesting to see how this will turn out. Glad to see "Lala Gonzales" again.
Change 123 ch.47
Not sure if any of you read it yet. So I'll refrain from commenting so far.
Well, Hibiki holding back for so long after the kiss was a pleasant surprise. She really has grown in personality since the series started. It was nice to see that HiFuMi has that much faith in Kosukegawa, and he almost told her the truth, though he chickened out at the last minute. I'd like to think he'll tell her eventually.
Sora got exactly what she deserved. She wanted to see "Black," she got it. Zero/Hibiki all but completely eliminated her offensive capacity in a single blow. Stupid overconfident bitch.
What bothered me was how easily Sumire convinced Botan. Sumire's argument was thinner than tissue and Botan didn't even argue. Sumire bases all this knowledge off of what Botan reported back to the clan (pretty obviously assassins now), but compared to what Kosukegawa, her fathers, and Kannami know, Sumire and Motoko's grandmother don't know a thing.
They think that Motoko will be further isolated the more people she meets as life continues onward, but from what we've seen, the opposite is true. HiFuMi have been surprisingly more and more capable of taking over right on the spot, and generally, only the people who know her very closely can even tell the difference. That's pretty much Kosukegawa, Motoko's fathers, Izuru, and increasingly Kannami (who has little interaction in comparison). The more they have been getting out, Motoko has been less isolated than ever before, not more.
I can't believe how stupid Botan is to believe someone who has less experience with Motoko than Botan herself does.
I just began reading this, it's awesome
Is it a monthly release? What about the groups doing it, are they constant with their releases?
It is released monthly in its magazine. Snoopycool used to be very regular with their releases, but Snoopy himself (the translator and final QC) has been very inactive. Imangascans took over LQ releases with their blessing, but they're not that consistent, since life catches up with them too.
I wouldn't expect regular releases from here on out.
Kosukegawa is too much a Mr Nice Guy and in addition also over analysed the situation. But seriously no matter how nice he generally is even he should realise going out with somebody who (as far as he knows) likes him is not a good idea when he already has Motoko. It can't be helped they share the same workplace but he should have the wits to limit it there. Anything beyond that only suits a two-timer.
Bone sitcking out of hand = instant win.
That's all I have to say.
So the fusion is complete
God i want to read the next chapter so bad, i hope she kicks Sora's ass asap so we can see the repercussions that Hibiki + 0 will have in her psyche
As of late Kosukegawa's cool moments have been slimmer than ever and just about anything can bring him to tears these days, so i've been finding myself consistently disliking his character more and more by each chapter for being all talk and no action.
Even he understood a few chapters back that his sense of justice alone won't get him anywhere and since then he hasn't made any effort to improve himself either physically ( and you'd expect this to be easy with world level fighters hanging around him 24/7 ) or psychologically ( learn to suck it up like a man dude, at least in front of your already mentally disturbed girlfriend ).
Yeah i know he's supposed to suck and that's his charm in a way, but his way of life is seriously flawed and i just keep wishing for him to at least try and do something about it. He's shirou without magic and shonen powerups
This guy was awesome!
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You mean you wish he was like Shirou? Kosukegawa sucks because he doesn't even try to do anything. Anything else than to please everybody, which is impossible (and endlessly talk about the fucking kamen show). Like somebody once said: When you bow to the person in front of you, you show your ass to the person behind you. He isn't even systematically trying to take Motoko's side.
Shirou was never weak. He kept practicing his miserable magic year after year never giving up, and when the fights started, he again began to practice martial arts as well. Kosukegawa goes out of his way to flirt other girls with his own girl in such a state that you'd think he would want to help her as much as he could.
The dude sucks plain and simple. Motoko is a saint to tolerate him.
Shirou was an underdog but he always pulled through somehow. I can't speak for other people but personally that's why i love his character ( that and that he managed to get a king, a sorcerer and the holy grail in the sack )
Kosukegawa is a strange combination of a coward with good ideals. Well coward isn't the right word, he's the first to jump in the face of danger ( even if it takes him a while ) but what really makes me dislike him is his inability to even TRY and improve. He just spouts his ideals out loud and crosses his fingers that his feelings will reach the other person.
He could at least be firm in his conviction that all conflict should be solved without violence, but he himself has already realized this isn't true not to mention that i've never seen kamen rider beat his opponents with fancy words alone ( i haven't watched that many episodes on it but still... )
Offtopic, but Shirou had already mastered Kyūdō before the beginning of the events depicted. Very early on in the game, other characters mention that they only saw Shirou miss once when he still belonged to the club, and it was almost certainly an intentional miss, just to see what it was like. He only started to learn close combat after the fights started.
On-Topic:
Kosukegawa goes out of his way to be nice, not flirt. Girls in this series tend to find that nice, but most only consider him a friend, and Sora is a lying, scheming bitch, so she doesn't count. HiFuMi doesn't count either, they're still Motoko, and Hibiki in particular offered her body to him first.
I wouldn't go so far to say he doesn't even "try" to improve. We have to face the facts and realize that he's a completely normal person surrounded by extraordinary people.
Can he punch a log into splinters? Nope.
Can he bruise someone with a coin or shoot a gun out of someone's hand? Nope.
Can he choke someone out with their own oversized arms? Nope.
Can he take down ten thugs, kill a leopard, or jump from trees to rooftops? Nope.
Can he knock any of the above people out cold with counterstrikes? Nope.
Leaping in front of these kinds of people to protect them even though he really doesn't come anywhere close to them in physical aptitudes says a lot about him. He's doing the absolute best to his ability to keep the people he cares about safe, or at least out of the harm they get themselves into.
This isn't History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. Power leveling doesn't really exist in the universe the story resides in. From HiFuMi to Izuru and even that bitch Sora, the people that surround Kosukegawa have actually been training for years. The people stronger than them, have been training and practicing for decades. Kosukegawa is an otaku. He's already exceeded the expectations of most of the characters in how far he is willing to go to bring about his ideals.
No more Fate/stay-night discussion
I still fail to see how insisting on going out with another girl that declared she loves him, and stole a kiss no less, is in any imaginable way helping Motoko... Or anybody for that matter. Of course we know Sora is nothing but a scheming bitch but for Kosukegawa it must look like she has real feelings for him. So, how exactly does that help even her? To give her false hope in large doses, eh? If she was nothing but a coworker and a friend, it would make sense since men can have female friends, but she already told him that she's interested in more than that.
Showing her landmarks and tourist attractions isn't exactly anything vital, but it certainly constitutes a date.
Cool down, dude. No need to start to break fingers yet.
You don't tell Jack Bauer to cool down,
Since Sora is getting her ass kicked by Hibiki, I wonder how Kosukegawa will react to the whole situation. I can easily see him being angry at her.
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