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    Quote Originally Posted by werelobster
    So am I the only one that thinks his new costume components (robe and scroll) are actually kage bunshins gathering the sage chakra and letting him appear to do rasengans one handed?
    They would still move with him.

    But the idea to turn kage bunshins into weapons is another ability naruto seems to forget... alot. And every time he does it hes awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    I don't recall there ever being a limit to the distance a kage bunshin could "survive" away from the original.
    Im assuming because i know that the water bunshin at least does have a distance limit for it to work.

    I mean if not what would stop a ninja from sending a kage bunshin fight for him in every single mission? Just doesnt make sense i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    I mean if not what would stop a ninja from sending a kage bunshin fight for him in every single mission? Just doesnt make sense i think.
    Well if they sent a kagebunshin that kagebunshin would only have half the Chakara of the original AND it would be destroyed after it gets damaged once (which isn't very useful).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyreal
    Well if they sent a kagebunshin that kagebunshin would only have half the Chakara of the original AND it would be destroyed after it gets damaged once (which isn't very useful).
    Yet in every stealth/assassination mission half chakra should be sufficient since you only have to retrieve info/kill target without being caught. And if you were, the bunshin would simply disappear, leaving absolutely no trace of its identity to the assailants.

    To be able to do this from the comfort of your own homw is turning the kage bunshin into a bigger hack jutsu than the sharingan..

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    if that's the case, then they can make naruto sit in the middle of the village (oh, too late about that) and have bunshins as guardmen in the village gates, and have clones as scouting teams, and clones as traps.

    heck, if naruto wants, he can clone\copy the village by himself for a few hours (totally not related to a current arc in any other manga).

    we all know that shadow clone is the most misused jutsu naruto has. it's old news.

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    It has already been stated that the Shadow Clone technique was designed for reconnaissance missions, just like every other clone technique.

    This reminds me of something. Presumably, the Shadow clone technique is a shadow element technique. And if Minato and Naruto were, hypothetically, to have a kekkei genkai, what would it be? "Shadow Wind" Almost sounds space-time related.

    What if Naruto could learn to make Wind Clones, made of Wind Rasengan-type chakra? Suddenly, his clones would be extremely dangerous. Just touching them melts your skin off. Or what if he could make Rasengan armor to protect him like the Kyuubi shroud does now? What would a Shadow Element Rasengan be?

    I mean, the Rasengan is obviously Naruto's most important move. It might as well get put to good use in creative ways.

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    I was bouncing around reading this manga. MASSIVE DROOL. OMG i love naruto so damn much. Naruto finally gets the pelvic thrust of awesomeness. I NEED NEXT WEEK NOW!

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    Dunno if this works if no..O well

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    It has already been stated that the Shadow Clone technique was designed for reconnaissance missions, just like every other clone technique.
    Yes but in every ocasion they have been used with some proximity to the original.

    For example, in Kakashi Gaiden when he uses chidori to destroy the kage bunshins of the enemy ninja, why would that enemy ninja keep the original near the bunshin? Wouldn't it be smarter to just escape and let the clones do the work for him?

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    Clones are destroyable. If your clone gets destroyed during a mission, and you're say, miles and miles back home, the mission is over, and trying again might not be an option. Now, you can send a clone and have that clone make clones, but again, the power level of each clone is severely reduce. The plan of sending a clone to do up to a B rank mission might be fine, but the second you have a mission where you can expect a moderate amount of competent resistance, you don't just send a clone. You go. Plus there's the matter of dealing with the unexpected, where what might've begun as, say an A rank mission, ends up becomming an SSJ3 rank mission. Sending a shadow clone to do a mission is plain...unprofessional.

    Quote Originally Posted by usp686
    I MASSIVE DROOL. OMG i love naruto so damn much. Naruto finally gets the pelvic thrust of awesomeness. I NEED IT NOW!
    Lol. So gay xD. *quote edited for awesomeness*

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    All this makes me think of "Naruto Gakure", where there are only Naruto bunshins + his sexy no jutsu counterparts. He could make his own "Matrix" :P

    Honestly - when one of the frogs said "you see these old, familiar moves" or sth like that after Naruto owning one of Pain's bodies just like that I thought - KONOHA'S YELLOW FLASH !

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    Bunshins can work at distance from the the host. Remember the time Yamato sent his wood clone after Sai, Orochimaru and Kabuto? They just aren't too useful in direct battle, as they get destroyed with one hit.

    And this theory hasn't really had to be tested before, as this application is pretty much unique to Naruto. Jiraiya didn't need Kage Bunshins because the frogs could fuse with him, but Naruto has no other choice it seems.

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    Remember when Yamamoto sent his wood clone after sai, didn't he use a headset or something to comunicate back with the original. Problem with shadow clones is, that if they get destroyed, no one besides Naruto would know because no information is send back to the original. So even for intel missions, only Naruto's clones after gathering intel and then say getting picked off by the enemy, could transmit the information back to the user.

    Also, I'm not sure but keep in mind, for Naruto the Shadow clones work differently. OR at least they did before he stopped using the Kyuubi's chakra. When Naruto was making those uber clones (except for at the start of the anime which made no sense when he first found/stole the forbidden scroll) his Chakra isn't divided in half to make the Tajuu clones, rather his Chakra is increasing exponentially due to the influx of Kyuubi chakra. And now that he is using his own chakra without relying on the Kyuubi chakra, he is limiting his Tajuu (however it is spelt), clones to two or three at a time.

    Its my theory, tell me what you think.

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    I dunno, to me it seems logical that there would be a time limit on them since we've never seen anything like this.. And I wouldn't think clones can make more clones either.
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    Naruto was able to send a large amount of clones through the woods to look for Sasuke, I dont know how far they were from him though...

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    Bunshins can work at distance from the the host. Remember the time Yamato sent his wood clone after Sai, Orochimaru and Kabuto? They just aren't too useful in direct battle, as they get destroyed with one hit.
    Thats a completely different playing field, thats a bloodline limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Im assuming because i know that the water bunshin at least does have a distance limit for it to work.

    I mean if not what would stop a ninja from sending a kage bunshin fight for him in every single mission? Just doesnt make sense i think.
    To make assumptions about this is pointless. To say "kage bunshins surely don't survive so far away from the original." in a direct statement, as though it were fact, is irresponsible. Nothing has been stated in the manga and no evidence has ever been given to support such a statement.

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    Yes, but even in naruto it's safe to assume certain things using common sense isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
    Clones are destroyable. If your clone gets destroyed during a mission, and you're say, miles and miles back home, the mission is over, and trying again might not be an option. Now, you can send a clone and have that clone make clones, but again, the power level of each clone is severely reduce. The plan of sending a clone to do up to a B rank mission might be fine, but the second you have a mission where you can expect a moderate amount of competent resistance, you don't just send a clone. You go. Plus there's the matter of dealing with the unexpected, where what might've begun as, say an A rank mission, ends up becomming an SSJ3 rank mission. Sending a shadow clone to do a mission is plain...unprofessional.
    Yeah but not all ninjas are Hatake Kakashi, who can have their mision upgraded by 1 or 2 grades and do just fine.

    If that happened to the average ninja having the original there would only get him killed, while having only kage bunshins would at least give you a chance to come back with a stronger group of ninjas or at least come back knowing the strength of your enemy to some extent.

    You guys keep saying it would suck because the clones die so easily. You know what really sucks? Dying

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    Slick chapter. That damn asura pain just keeps coming back! Though seeing him in this arc answered a question that I had always wondered about. I always wondered how the hell did he take Jiraiya's arm off. I thought he like bit his arm and shit, but now that we see that he has that huge sharp blade thing I can see how he did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Yes, but even in naruto it's safe to assume certain things using common sense isn't it?
    It's not safe to present things as fact when there is nothing to support it.

    Present it as theory, opinion, or as a question. Otherwise, you are providing false information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    It's not safe to present things as fact when there is nothing to support it.

    Present it as theory, opinion, or as a question. Otherwise, you are providing false information.
    Thats how i meant to present it, as a theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Kage bunshins probably don't survive so far away from the original.
    Better?

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