this sucks...just one more thing that I can't count on...
this sucks...just one more thing that I can't count on...
Will dattebayo still sub the next ep?
Yes, it's their final oneOriginally Posted by The Archangel
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
YHBT.
Just sayin'
i guess we'll find out if it's a troll or not in a couple weeks.
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You know what would be a troll? If Vidz never licensed Naruto for streaming, all the fuss is misinformation via DB staff, but they still withheld their subs. People then complain to CRoll why their subs ain't working. That would be a troll.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
that would be a crunchy troll :3
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Wow, that joke killed the thread xD
I agree, but I'd describe it differently. A lot of people here complain because Naruto always uses the same two moves. That much is true. But they are really strong moves. Jiraiya didn't need to teach Naruto new moves. Naruto has always had trouble with chakra control and concentration, and I can definitely see improvements in those areas since the time-jump. He might not pull off awesome plans like Shikamaru, but a constant onslaught of kage bunshin will keep the enemy from thinking up a plan of their own, while Naruto (or a clone) can calmly think of an effective plan.
With a little bit of smarts, the kage bunshin and rasengan are deadly, as we have seen. If there's a complaint to be made here, it's that the animators are bad at pacing fights.
And anyway, Naruto can use up to four tails if he has to. Yamato and Sai might have been dismissive about Naruto's powers during his fight with Orochimaru, but if the Nine-Tails had really taken control, it basically would have unsealed itself. Jiraiya already said that Naruto's anger is what brings the tails out -- if the Kyuubi was in charge at four tails, he could have made Naruto angrier. Why wouldn't it make 5 more tails pop out of Naruto's buttocks if it could?
And if Naruto is in charge, I say it is his power, since it is his to use.
I thought Naruto was only consciously aware and in control up to 3 tails which is why he didn't remember hurting Sakura at the 4 tail stage?? I think the 5th tail would have come out only if during the fight 4-tails Naruto was taking a real beating. Just like Naruto himself when he gets beat down he gets angrier.
To me, it's the fact that Naruto seems like an idiot that makes his attacks moderately successful (when he's not tripping over himself). He intentionally makes himself look like a one trick pony to divert attention away from rasengan since it's an up close and personal attack and easy to dodge if you see it coming. That's my problem with him now. Having the benefit of seeing that strat again and again you know what's coming during Naruto fights now. They all seem to be just variations of look left while I come at you from the right. At this point I wish they'd write it so Naruto takes someone else off their game and they attack head first through a sea of clones only to find a resengan waiting for them. I wish it could be bring them to the rasengan instead of always bringing the rasengan to them while they're not paying attention. That's why I liked Shikamaru's fight. He wasn't just 2 steps ahead but 20 steps ahead.
At first the tails come out unconsciously as Naruto gets angry and loses it. The ease at which it comes out is directly related to just how emotional and urgent he is in need for power (aka shounen heart).
Before the time jump, he had two tails when trying to stop Sasuke leaving at the waterfall. I'd say that's his "spirit" at its max. After the time jump, he got the opportunity to see Orochimaru, which is pretty much the key to Sasuke. Again, at the same "max" we could say, he released up to 4 tails.
His emotions are the key to releasing the tails, but it's the weakening seal that controls exactly how many he can get to. As Jiraiya said, ultimately there'll be nine.
From what we've been shown, 4 tails Naruto completely loses it. He never held back at all. I can't tell if Naruto's emotions then are the trigger anymore, since the fox is now in control. I can only guess if the seal weakens and allows more tails, it (fox) would definitely make it emerge in its attempt to devour Naruto.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
That's stupid. If Naruto was in charge he wouldn't be attacking his allies when the 4th tail comes out.
Honestly, I don't think its either one. Everything they've shown of the Kyuubi inside naruto's head shows it to be a rational, thinking creature.
4-tails Naruto is a mindless killing machine. I think because 4-tails is so close to the middle(Naruto being 0 and Kyuubi being 9) that neither entity has any control at that point.
During one fight (I don't recall which at the moment) they commented about the demon cloak charkra seeming to have a 'mind of its own'. I wonder if it isn't exactly that - the tails are just Naruto using the kyuubi's charka. He can control it up to a certain point (3 tails) but eventually his control fails (4 tails) and since the kyuubi itself it still locked away, the released charkra runs wild with no concious control on the part of either one of them.
Preprepared response N3-10.
I’ve always felt that regardless of however many tails he has it’s still just Naruto. It doesn't matter whether its 0, 3, 4 or 9 it is just Naruto. The only difference the tails makes is the amount of the Kyuubi's power he is using. He is able to control up to 3 tails anymore than that and it becomes too much for him and as they showed he pretty much drowns in the power and loses control of himself. At no point does the Kyuubi actually take control of Naruto and even if Naruto is able to get up to 9 tails it would still just be him and it would still just be only a fraction of the Kyuubi's real power.
It’s similar to Gaara where even after he had transformed and had one tail it was still him in control, he then underwent a second transformation when he released Shukaku and it was only then that the bijuu took control, same with Yugito. So Jinchuurikis have three modes more or less.
Human mode: More or less normal, except for a few abilities and a few physical traits acquired by the hosts from their bijuu. Naruto’s quick healing and his incredible stamina, Gaara’s sand, Yugito’s eyes, Naruto’s whiskers and Gaara’s eyes.
Jinchuuriki mode: The host is actively using the Bijuu's power and is surrounded by a cloak of the bijuu's power. The host also undergoes a physical transformation and takes on the physical traits of the bijuu.
Bijuu mode: The hosts relinquishes control and releases the bijuu. Only Gaara and Yugito have done this so far.
Yes I really did just copy and paste this from a word doc on my pc.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
And the reason why Naruto is the worst Jinchuriki we've ever seen is that he's actually managed to make his Bijuu mostly a disadvantage (recently) while the other seem to be able to use all their power to their benefit.
Somebody said earlier already different bijuu might have different effects on the host. Naruto's healing abilities are definitely a plus, so it's not all bad for him, although otherwise Kyuubi could be a poor servant. Part of the problem of course is that nobody wants to give Naruto hints how to use the power safely. Everybody just keep telling him how dangerous it is (for those around him as well) and how it's not real power and he should rather use only his own body's energy. Naruto being the kind of idiot he is, it's not all too likely he will anytime soon develop on his own with everybody around him like that.
He should travel to some mountaintop monastery (that's not yet ransacked by Akatsuki) to gain mental control so that he could remain sane even with a couple of tails out.
Actually Kraco I disagree with that. I'm sure that the Leaf would be much happier and feel much safer if Naruto knew how to control the Kyuubi and they didn't have to constantly worry about him just going berserk and destroying the village. For the most part isn't that what Jiraiya has been trying to do since he was first introduced, trying to teach Naruto how to use and control the Kyuubi. I think the real problem is not that they don't want to teach Naruto but they don't know how to.
Just look at the Sand village. The sand village has had multiple Jinchuuriki's and everyone knew Gaara was a jinchuuriki and that the first two Kazekages were Jinchuurikis. Hell Gaara not only knew about Shukaku but he was trained how to use Shukaku's power, pretty much since he was born. Naruto on the other hand didn't even know he had the Kyuubi inside him until he was 12 and hasn't had anyone to teach him how to use it properly simply because I don't think there is anyone in the village who can.
Dreaming impossible dreams.
Sapphire is awesome!
Who is Yugito ?
Hakke Rokujūyon Shō!
It must be the 2-tails. She's the only other Jinchuuriki we've seen.
Tell that to the stack of dead Jinchuuriki Akatsuki has.
I can certainly say that's plausible, up till the 9th tail. I'd put money on the fact that if Naruto every manifests 9 tails, the Kyuubi would simply be free.
Which is why it's something nobody wants to happen.
Like I said, I think that the closer he gets to 9 tails, the more control Kyuubi will have and in the middle(4-5 tails) neither Naruto nor Kyuubi has any control. But I'm willing to believe that Naruto might simply be "out of control' from 4-8 tails.
But, once the 9th comes out. I think the seal is done. And Kyuubi is not longer bound to Naruto.
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