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    Yeah I guess so...So the thing to blame is the way they are showing how Naruto grows, and by that, we see all his emo feelings and failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azonalanthious
    Very true. But... the Fourth was the Fourth - genius ninja, hokage, and all around awsome dude. Naruto is Naruto - complete idiotic moron who - technically speaking (he did fail the final exam after all) - should never have made it out of the academy. Expecting true equal performance out of them would be silly. For him to improve on a potential S ranked technique in the same time it took the Fourth to create it isn't too bad on the improvement scale in my book.
    And yet we keep getting fed bullshit like "You have surpassed the fourth" and "You have surpassed me (Kakashi)" just because he developed the ultimate hack jutsu.

    I think you people haven't truly understood that after this naruto can take out anyone with just 1 lucky shot, and hes got hes shonen powers to do so, meaning that there isn't a single opponent in the whole naruto world he cant defeat now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    I think you people haven't truly understood that after this naruto can take out anyone with just 1 lucky shot, and hes got hes shonen powers to do so, meaning that there isn't a single opponent in the whole naruto world he cant defeat now.
    Except Tsunade. Shounen rules dictate he can't be Hokage till the very end. Tsunade wins by default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    And yet we keep getting fed bullshit like "You have surpassed the fourth" and "You have surpassed me (Kakashi)" just because he developed the ultimate hack jutsu.

    I think you people haven't truly understood that after this naruto can take out anyone with just 1 lucky shot, and hes got hes shonen powers to do so, meaning that there isn't a single opponent in the whole naruto world he cant defeat now.
    It's true. They've got it set up that nothing can survive a rasenshuriken.

    Fortunately, anyone who's not retarded will never get hit by it.

    Unfortunately, anyone facing Naruto will suddenly become retarded. Even if previously shown to be a careful and tactical opponent.

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    Technically, after the three years with Jiraiya, Naruto is able to use four tails and cause Oro to pull out all the stops and retreat. Of course he can't use it without pwning himself and his own friends in the process, so its useless.

    Now he has a Technique that pwns himself again...maybe he should learn a technique that would allow him to use his current ones without self pwnage.

    Also, I believe in the beginning they said Naruto would have trouble with Chakra control because the Kyubi Chakra mixes with his own, making it more difficult than normal. So its only natural that he can't use a Rasengan without a clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    It's true. They've got it set up that nothing can survive a rasenshuriken.

    Fortunately, anyone who's not retarded will never get hit by it.

    Unfortunately, anyone facing Naruto will suddenly become retarded. Even if previously shown to be a careful and tactical opponent.
    At least we know he wont use it against his lover boy Sasuke, that thing would make tofu out of his emo ass.

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    Sorry, off topic, but tofu made out of meat?

    Sounds good, just doesn't make any sense.
    Respect the joindate, not the postcount ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uberbaka
    Sorry, off topic, but tofu made out of meat?

    Sounds good, just doesn't make any sense.
    I was going for randomness

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    Technically, anyone who can move faster than naruto should not be hit by the rasenshuriken, along with any distance fighters who have good awareness. Rasenshuriken is a point-blank attack, just like a punch. A ninja like Lee, for example, would easily be able to dodge that punch and quickly counter to make naruto lose control of the technique.

    Then again, these assumptions are based off the fact that the naruto world makes the least bit of sense... Which it doesn't... So you can ignore everything I've mentioned.

    The past three years seem to have been a waste (I know this has been mentioned by just about everyone on this forum). However, he did learn to reach level 4 kyuubi. I just don't see the point of it considering he isn't even allowed to use it anymore... Did Jiraiya seriously not notice that it was causing damage to naruto's body?

    Another thing I don't understand, is why Naruto doesn't just learn to control level 1 or 2 kyuubi? He seems to stay in a fair amount of self control, and his power increases tremendously, and it doesn't seem like his skin would peel away or that he does much damage to himself.

    In my opinion (again, basing this off the fact that the narutoverse made any sense), Jiraiya should've spent more time teaching naruto to control the Kichiyose-no jutsu (summoning technique). It's a very powerful technique and naruto hasn't used it at all since his fight with Gaara. He doesn't need to summon gamma-bunta (sp?) everytime. Maybe just a normal or slightly bigger fighting-size frog.

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    I don't think he's really learned the 4-tails cloak. They said before that his seal's weakening as time goes by, so now he's got access, that's all.

    And the key to unleashing it is his emotions. It works when he's pissed or when he's about to die. From what the anime seems to show, when he's emotionally unstable, he's also in tight situations, and unconsciously asks for more power, letting the Kyuubi leak its power. He's got to keep a level enough head to then consciously push it back.

    So really, I don't think he learned how to use, or access the 4 tails at all.

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    I just find it ironic that in order to teach naruto to successfully be able to summon powerful frogs, he made naruto learn to unleash kyuubi power whenever he needs to, and now, not only does he not use kyuubi power, he doesn't even summon...

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    Because the seal is degenerating and that makes the red chakra inaccessible unless he lets the kyuubi take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Because the seal is degenerating and that makes the red chakra inaccessible unless he lets the kyuubi take over.
    Doesn't that mean Fourth was quite a n00b to use a sealing technique that not only claimed his own life but also can't keep the demon sealed for 20 years, let alone allow the host to use willingly the bijuu powers like the other jinchuuriki have been able to quite freely? Doesn't make the revered past leader of the village look too good, and certainly no genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Doesn't that mean Fourth was quite a n00b to use a sealing technique that not only claimed his own life but also can't keep the demon sealed for 20 years, let alone allow the host to use willingly the bijuu powers like the other jinchuuriki have been able to quite freely? Doesn't make the revered past leader of the village look too good, and certainly no genius.
    Actually, the only other Jinchuuriki we have seen extensively was Gaara - and he could never sleep to avoid being taken over by his bijuu and was effectively driven insane by its power. If we assume that each 'tail' represents an equal portion of the nine-tail's power, Naruto can really use a 3rd of its power with effectively no ill effects. I think he got the better deal then Gaara did and who knows how they stack up to all the others?

    As for the Fourth... eh, maybe not the perfect sealing technique, but I think that's due to the sheer power of the nine-tails rather then a flaw with the fourth. If I am remembering the converstation correctly, Kakashi once said that Naturo had something like 3 times as much chakara (his own chakra, not the nine-tails) as Kakashi and its been made pretty clear that Naruto's chakra levels are basicly insanely high. Then in the same conversation he said that drawing fully on the bujii, his chakra levels would be 100 times higher. So if we assume that Naruto's chakra level is equal to or higher then the vast majority of ninjas, the nine-tail's chakra level is likely higher then the chakra levels of pretty much every single named ninja we have meet in the course of the entire series, combined.

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    So if we assume that Naruto's chakra level is equal to or higher then the vast majority of ninjas, the nine-tail's chakra level is likely higher then the chakra levels of pretty much every single named ninja we have meet in the course of the entire series, combined.
    FYI, the Nine-Tails has near infinite chakra. It's being is in essence a blob of chakra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Doesn't that mean Fourth was quite a n00b to use a sealing technique that not only claimed his own life but also can't keep the demon sealed for 20 years, let alone allow the host to use willingly the bijuu powers like the other jinchuuriki have been able to quite freely? Doesn't make the revered past leader of the village look too good, and certainly no genius.
    Maybe so but the fact is that the seal is degenerating, jiraya said so.

    Then again, the 4th might very well have set it up so it would slowly get weaker, allowing naruto to gradually tap further into the nine tails powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceaprion
    Now he has a Technique that pwns himself again...maybe he should learn a technique that would allow him to use his current ones without self pwnage.
    That's kinda what his conversation with Jirayia implied. That he was going to teach him "one or two techniques that don't use up so much chakra".
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Doesn't that mean Fourth was quite a n00b to use a sealing technique that not only claimed his own life but also can't keep the demon sealed for 20 years, let alone allow the host to use willingly the bijuu powers like the other jinchuuriki have been able to quite freely? Doesn't make the revered past leader of the village look too good, and certainly no genius.
    Yeah, you're right. He was only able to seal the equivalent of a sentient nuclear reactor inside a living person for over a decade. What a noob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Then again, the 4th might very well have set it up so it would slowly get weaker, allowing naruto to gradually tap further into the nine tails powers.
    That's indeed what I'd like to believe but the series certainly does its best to fight against that notion with every character telling Naruto he shouldn't be using the "nuclear reactor" inside him. That's really like running a (soviet made) nuclear power plant with all the risks of a meltdown and the mountain of highly radioactive waste piling yet not connecting it to the power grid, thus wasting all the megawatts.

    In fact I don't think the Fourth was a n00b but it's an unquestionable truth that Tsunade is a woman ruled by nothing but fear - no doubt because of the all the dear people she lost - and thus a poor leader for a ninja village and the worst kind of a superior to a person like Naruto, who has no brain but insane power, stamina, and regeneration abilities.

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    Don't forget to mention the size of his heart.

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    It didn't say when the next episode was in Japan during the preview of episode 90. So I assumed it was today, apparantly not...
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