Jiraiya won't teach anything because it's filler. Jiraiya has taught Naruto plenty.
Jiraiya won't teach anything because it's filler. Jiraiya has taught Naruto plenty.
Yeah, but oddly enough he taught him a lot in the two month long stints he spent with him, and then managed to not teach him jack shit when he had 3 years to work with him, you know, when the series was essentially rebooting and bringing Naruto in with some new techniques would have been cool and interesting.
Besides, it's not like filler hasn't given characters new techniques before. Both Shino and Hinata had jutsu in fillers they've never used in the canon episodes.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Sat, 12-27-2008 at 09:37 PM.
Yeah, a bigger rasengan and ......... ?Originally Posted by poopdeville
Maybe it's just hopeful thinking but in theory he could learn a filler jutsu that could be added to some none-canon fighting scenes in the future.
Jiraiya taught him summoning and the rasengan.
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I meant in the 3 year skip
Well, you could look at it this way...What has Sasuke learned from Orochimaru in these 3 years?
the ability to put off electricity from his entire body? and he got really fast.
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And Sasuke has his own "that" jutsu that we haven't seen yet.
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A new sword that can have a chidori run through it and apparently a "throwable" chidori.
But other than that yeah, he learned nothing...
Haha. We have seen a few minutes of Sasuke every now and then. He could have plenty of new skills that we have had no reason to see.
Also, breaking/dispelling illusions and the 'safe' limits of the demon fox cloak and what triggers it. Additionally, there are a few minor things that haven't been discussed in series, but that I felt Naruto had improved at. Notably, his Taijustus has seems stronger to me then it was pre-skip.
Also, one thing to remember is that it was stated at one point that it took the fourth 3 years to develop rasengen. Under Jiraiya, in the same time of 3 years, Naruto developed a new version without using Kakashi's clone training method. So I don't think we can really trash Jiraiya TOO much as a trainer.
The fourth created a new A jutsu out of nowhere, a jutsu who had the capability to be improved to S status.
Naruto made it a little bigger...
Exactly, like I already said. The director that does all the best Naruto fights has a habit of adding parts to those fights that make them more awesome. Sometimes he even adds abilities(for example, Shikamaru's use of the water scroll on Kakuzu).
They could give Naruto some new low level abilities. Like a wind slice like Sora's, and that gives that director something else to work with when he's adding those little filler moments to the fight scenes.
I agree with this. Sasuke didn't even get serious in his fight with Squad 7. He might have learned a bunch of stuff he didn't bother to use on them because he wasn't pushed.
I think that the point is that after a 3 year skip, we wanted Naruto to have learned some actually NEW abilities. Instead of minor improvements to a couple of his old ones.
I agree it would be doable but lets face,it, probably not going to happen. It would be too awesome.
my main and only real expectation for him after the time skip was that he was gonna start making a rasengan without the clone. but I lost hope in that awhile ago, especially now that he's using that same type of thing on his new move..
seriously, Jiraiya, and Kakashi make it with 1 hand. Naruto hasn't even perfected the rasengan, he just got a cheap way to do it years ago, and he's too lazy to advance. I don't get why he's trying to create additions when he should get the basics down.
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Very true. But... the Fourth was the Fourth - genius ninja, hokage, and all around awsome dude. Naruto is Naruto - complete idiotic moron who - technically speaking (he did fail the final exam after all) - should never have made it out of the academy. Expecting true equal performance out of them would be silly. For him to improve on a potential S ranked technique in the same time it took the Fourth to create it isn't too bad on the improvement scale in my book.
There seems to be some confusion here. Weren't we discussing the amount learned between Naruto and Sasuke in the 3 year span?
The heart of the discussion was that Naruto training with Jiraiya some more would be of no benefit due to how little he learned training with him during the three year time-skip. The discussion of what he learned, how difficult/impressive it is, and what Sasuke learned in the same time frame all relate back to that inital point.
I don't know if I remember correctly, but in the 3 years didn't Sasuke just get a sword and what, advanced his chidori?
Yeah, but dude, we've seen close to nothing of him.
Naruto's been pitted against two Akatsuki and Oro, which would force any ninja to give all they've got. We've only seen Sasuke do some training and have catch up with old friends. Nothing more.
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