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    Yay, more fillers...

    The longer this show runs the more i ask myself: " Why do i still watch this? "

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    We just had here Kakuzu the hairy monster who could detach his hands and control them via whatever tentacles and even use those tentacles to fix other people's severed limbs, and Hidan whom you could cut to pieces and he still would keep laughing. And you tell me Naruto's cells can reproduce a few proteins? What a load of bs.
    Like darkmetal said, this isn't House. Proper anatomy doesn't apply to shonen anime Kraco, if it did none of the heroes would make it past the first episode.

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    wledfjl

    freakin, the goverment should take over the naruto productions and threaten the people to put out non-filler material or else...

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    ive yet to watch any fillers after the first one or two episodes, hopefully it wont suck as hard this time. if they have time for fillers i would think itd be about the three tails or whichever... or theyre saving ALL of them for the movies?

    after that bullshit with shika not smoking naruto is lookin pretty lame, need to have chouji smoke some ganji and say its training to help him eat more. hahaaaaa

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    i agree....Naruto needs to kick it up, at this rate, they'll never take down DBZ for best anime ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Like darkmetal said, this isn't House. Proper anatomy doesn't apply to shonen anime Kraco, if it did none of the heroes would make it past the first episode.
    Also, tissue repair doesn't work like that in the first place if you are trying to draw parallels to real life. Tsunade said it cut off the chakra channels to each cell. Assuming the system works like blood capillaries, you can't just "rebuild" them quickly if they are destroyed. Repeated use of the jutsu compounds the damage further.

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    I just find it interesting that cells can be repaired more easily if they are completely removed (ie. all of Naruto's skin burning off via fox cloak and then regrown via fox healing) than if the cells are preserved but the channels are severed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    I just find it interesting that cells can be repaired more easily if they are completely removed (ie. all of Naruto's skin burning off via fox cloak and then regrown via fox healing) than if the cells are preserved but the channels are severed.
    After Kraco's post, I did some searching for irreversible subcellular damage. All the results point that if it's irreversible, the cell would die in due time. However, that was the case for cell organelles. I have yet to come across anything that's not critical to cell function. For that, I'll acknowledge what Kraco said as scientifically sound.

    The whole "chakra circulatory system" is similar to the Chinese Meridian System through which Chi/Ki/Qui flows. You see in martial arts movies masters holding both hands against the back of the injured, redirecting the energy flow in ways to promote healing (Medical ninjutsu?)

    From impression (rather than memory, and I failed to pinpoint examples), trauma to such a system can render someone ineffective at running Qui throughout their body, effectively disabling one of their (Chinese) martial arts ability.

    I have only found one article on the effects of damages to such internal energy systems (see entry under SJ8).

    http://www.google.com.au/search?q=da...ient=firefox-a

    The result, however, is death. The fact that Naruto's wind needles can "cut" these channels suggests they may have a more "physiological" existence. In that regard, Kraco's argument holds more truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkmetal505
    Also, tissue repair doesn't work like that in the first place if you are trying to draw parallels to real life. Tsunade said it cut off the chakra channels to each cell. Assuming the system works like blood capillaries, you can't just "rebuild" them quickly if they are destroyed. Repeated use of the jutsu compounds the damage further.
    Capillaries are built easily enough by the body. They are everywhere. That's why you bleed, no matter where you happen to cut yourself. If they couldn't be repaired, nothing in the body could be repaired, because all living cells need oxygen, removal of CO2, nutrients and energy, and occasionally the defense mechanisms carried by the blood. Unfortunately even cancer knows how to attract blood vessels.

    In any case blood vessels are lined by cells (they must be large enough to let cells pass through after all), so these chakra tunnels are much much smaller, likely mainly built of protein components like any cell surface channels.

    But anyway, that's beside the point. My point is how stupid it is Naruto's progress is halted by whatever excuses while none of the enemies ever seem to have such problems, no matter how powerful they are or get. Unless Itachi was really losing his sight, making him the sole exception in addition to Naruto.

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    episode is quite ok, not that great. But could've guessed it after all the action we had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    But anyway, that's beside the point. My point is how stupid it is Naruto's progress is halted by whatever excuses while none of the enemies ever seem to have such problems, no matter how powerful they are or get. Unless Itachi was really losing his sight, making him the sole exception in addition to Naruto.
    You mean like how every time Kakashi has to go all out he end up in the hospital afterwords, or how Gaara's power drives him insane or how opening the gates wrecks Lee's body?

    Plus, lets not forget that Naruto sucks. You could probably protect yourself by sheathing your arm in chakra or something, or, as they said, having the clone do the move, or just keep doing the clone training till you have enough control over the move that it stops backlashing on you. But it'll be forever, if ever, before Naruto thinks of any of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemane_no_Jutsu
    if they have time for fillers i would think itd be about the three tails or whichever
    What was your first clue? Was it the minute long trailer with THREE TAILS written all over it at the end of episode 87?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    You mean like how every time Kakashi has to go all out he end up in the hospital afterwords, or how Gaara's power drives him insane or how opening the gates wrecks Lee's body?
    Haha, okay there were more exceptions. Though I'm not going to count Gaara or Lee. Gaara was just subject to the general ill influence of having a demon inside him, just like Naruto. However, Gaara used his power to a good effect whereas everybody wants to keep Naruto from harnessing his, rendering the whole idea of having the demon void. Opening the gates, however, wasn't really any special skill or technique as such in the sense I'm referring to (however special it's otherwise). It's like doping yourself with some drug that gives a power boost with sideeffects, and those sideeffects were made known very clearly when Lee was told about the whole thing.

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    I think what Kraco is trying to say is that, there's always something that's never happened before that has happened Naruto. Like, everyone knew what opening Gates would do to the body, and how Gaara always had an anger problem that manifested with the Bijuu. I might be wrong. But I bet all this happens because apparently, it's a new technique.

    I agree with you in how Naruto's progress is always halted by some technicality or his stupidty rather than his failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyreal
    It depends on when the clone takes the damage. I'd assume it takes the damage only after the attack connects because we've seen a Shadow Clone simply holding the Rasenshuriken before. Which means it doesn't matter if the clone is destroyed.
    i think we are forgetting that naruto DID make a clone hold the rasenshuriken in order to trick kaukzu

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    Quote Originally Posted by RasenDori
    i think we are forgetting that naruto DID make a clone hold the rasenshuriken in order to trick kaukzu
    Yes but there seems to be a difference in just maintaining the jutsu and actually using it. If there wasn't i'm sure Tsunade wouldn't classify the Rasenshruiken as a kinjutsu so rashly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Yes but there seems to be a difference in just maintaining the jutsu and actually using it. If there wasn't i'm sure Tsunade wouldn't classify the Rasenshruiken as a kinjutsu so rashly.
    Kinjutsu....as in forbidden technique?

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    Considering the technique didn't exist a couple days ago, I doubt Tsunade is qualified to to rate it as anything when Naruto hasn't even had a chance to try and work the kinks out of the technique yet.


    I also thought it was pretty funny that they have the corpse of a guy who could make himself immortal and use multiple hearts and the only information they are getting from his corpse is "what Naruto did to him".

    Tsunade should be discovering the secret of heart transplant surgery now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    I also thought it was pretty funny that they have the corpse of a guy who could make himself immortal and use multiple hearts and the only information they are getting from his corpse is "what Naruto did to him".

    Tsunade should be discovering the secret of heart transplant surgery now.
    That's like saying you would know how to reproduce the sharingan by analyzing a uchiha's corpse.

    I'm sure such a jutsu has certain countermeasures that prevent enemy nations from properly reproducing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilphatboi88
    i agree....Naruto needs to kick it up, at this rate, they'll never take down DBZ for best anime ever.

    One Piece took that title long ago.

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    Well if you remember that's what the thunder country tried to do with the Byakugan and the Hyuuga clan so it might be possible.

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