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    as far as I remember, Aang got Momo after he woke up, how does he help connect Aang to the past?

    Momo was a comic relief monkey, I don't care whether he's in the movie or not.

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    yes, he got him after he woke up, when they went to the southern air temple in hopes of finding the air benders.

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    Maybe it's just me, but it looked to me like the Earth Nation in the trailer was made up of a lot of South Asians (Indians, etc.). Shymalan bias at work?

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    i havent seen that trailer yet, but if anything the fire nation should be like that, since zuko is played by a brown guy. Doesnt make sense for the earth nation to be indians.

    In anycase, i wouldnt consider that bias...didnt we just have a debate on holywood being too white?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animus View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but it looked to me like the Earth Nation in the trailer was made up of a lot of South Asians (Indians, etc.). Shymalan bias at work?
    No, not really.

    Edit: Especially since they're apparently evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    No, not really.

    Edit: Especially since they're apparently evil.
    Evil roles or not, that's paying work for Shymalan's people. Definitely some bias going on there.


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    All brown people are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    All brown people are the same.
    Someone had to say it, I just didn't figure it'd be you!

    Back on topic, I wonder why they didn't call this movie by it's proper name of Avatar:The Last Airbender. They could have raked in the residual monies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    I wonder why they didn't call this movie by it's proper name of Avatar:The Last Airbender. They could have raked in the residual monies.

    As I understand it, James Cameron had some sort of legal trademarking of the name "Avatar" for his blue man movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
    As I understand it, James Cameron had some sort of legal trademarking of the name "Avatar" for his blue man movie.
    That'd be a copyright suit worth fighting in the courts.


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    Shymalan could have argued that Avatar is an Indian concept, and people used long before either of the movies were in production, but he doesn't want a brown lawyer.

    accusing others in racism sure is fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    Shymalan could have argued that Avatar is an Indian concept, and people used long before either of the movies were in production, but he doesn't want a brown lawyer.

    accusing others in racism sure is fun.
    Shymalan is the wrong kind of Indian, you racist bastard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Shymalan is the wrong kind of Indian, you racist bastard.
    Actually, it is the concept of Indians from the subcontinent, unless you are saying that M.Night isn't a real Indian.

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    I'm surprised I didn't whine about it on here, but a few months ago I was basically bitched at by nearly my entire anime club (I was called Hitler etc. etc.) because I said that it was the director's/creators choice to tell the story and he could hire whatever color he aesthetically wanted. And I really didn't care because it didn't effect my life/harm me.

    Their stance was basically everyone in that world is obviously Asian because of the culture and Asians are being opressed in media/America while black people always get a leg up (for example the president is black "ffs"). Therefore it was a crime against humanity for there to be no Asians in this movie. Their side seemed pretty racist to me but yeah... that convo did not make me happy.

    Them: You/society would be pissed if Roots and Amistad had white slaves! And yet no one cares about Asians!
    Me: Actually... I wouldn't care. Also that would be funny IMO..
    Them: Rageeeeeeeee!

    Actually they tried to make me promise I would steal this movie and not see it in theatres. Because paying to see it in theatres is "supporting" them, basically blatantly trying to bend me to their morals of how to watch a movie. :|
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    I think it's a little naive of you to think a director chooses white actors for roles because "it's his vision of the story".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire
    I said that it was the director's/creators choice to tell the story and he could hire whatever color he aesthetically wanted. And I really didn't care because it didn't effect my life/harm me.
    Holy crap, please tell me you don't think like this any more.

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    Katara and Sokka.... yellow with blue eyes? Are you guys blind or something?

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    Usually when people say they are "color blind" to racism, they don't literally mean that they are colorblind. Yellow is not brown. The idea that unless a character is stereotypically "asian" or "black" or whatever then they are either "neutral" or white is incredibly racist.

    How much hand-wringing and nitpicking does it take to excuse that a bunch of pasty white actors were chosen to play Asian/Inuit characters in an Asian setting? This isn't Dragonball, where the characters are ambiguous and without nationality, having many obviously caucasian traits. It's indefensible.

    Whatever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN3z257Ss2A
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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    Usually when people say they are "color blind" to racism, they don't literally mean that they are colorblind. Yellow is not brown.

    How much hand-wringing and nitpicking does it take to excuse that a bunch of pasty white actors were chosen to play Asian characters in an Asian setting? It's indefensible.

    Whatever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN3z257Ss2A

    Asian characters in an Asian setting? Right... influenced by Asian cultures, that's the extent of it.

    A movie with martial arts in them clearly has to be about Asians and solely about Asians.

    Sure, it's clear that they chose white characters for some of these roles, but the notion that Asians are getting the short stick here is just laughable... particularly as far as Sokka and Katara goes. They could've just as easily been characters that resemble latin mulatos or from African descent. To me they look more Western Natives more than anything.

    How many communities are there of dark skinned blue-eyed people? How many of them are Asian? How many nations are there in the world in the poles with Asian communiteis, or dark skinned for that matter?

    And to me Aang looks the part quite well. Sukko is the only casting choice I don't understand, and interestingly enough he's of Asian descent... I would've looked for someone that looks like a Japanese.

    Of all the nations represented in the cartoon, Fire Nation was the only one that truely resembled physically Asians. All others are just a mix and match. Maybe Wind people, but since we only have Aang around and to me the actor really resembles the character plus he's a martial artist, I don't see why people are pissing their panties about it. Doesn't he have some Asian ancestry himself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    Holy crap, please tell me you don't think like this any more.
    Lots of Chinese people were enraged because the actor who played in Memoirs of a Geisha was Chinese, not Japanese (as in the story). A lot of people I know are (seriously) pissed off because another movie is called "The Karate Kid" even though it takes place in China and is Wushu. Many people were enraged at Angelina Jolie playing a black woman in A Mighty Heart. Black Knight etc. edit: People were super pissed off at DragonBall too! ("obviously asian")

    I don't think these are necessarily bad reasons to be upset, I can see why others would be.

    I am not denying that "racial blindness" is a problem in society, nor do I think it's bad to be upset by it. This is clearly a legitimate issue. But at the same time I think it's wrong to try to force others not to see a movie because the characters aren't the race you think they should be (I'm not denying that the casting director is racist either lol).
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