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Ok, the range still sucks and there was still a normal 'Naruto fumble'... But at least a bit of cleverness in take two and that is one fun attack.
Seems like Rasen-Shuriken uses up a lot more chakra than his regular counterpart. Naruto was flat out after the second attack. As for the episode itself, it drops a notch from the previous, but what do you expect, Naruto turned up
Perfectly fine episode still, what held it back was mostly the clicheness of it all. Especially the happy-ending-music (which isn't exactly the "coolest" soundtrack we've heard).
The way Kakuzu landed made it ambiguous if he is dead or not. The preview gives us that answer yet again, but I don't see it as such a big deal this time.
Edit: what I didn't understand was why Kakuzu went for Naruto's heart, knowing perfectly well he's got the Nine Tails in him. Unless the anime failed to explain something properly, killing the host also kills the bijuu. Akatsuki surely can't be happy with their financial planner ruining their plans for a spare organ.
Edit2: and I echo Chouji's bewilderment at naming it the Rasen-Shuriken. A more appropriate name would be like Futon: Rasen Shu-red-der
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Thu, 12-11-2008 at 10:15 PM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Well, calling it a shuriken is obviously because its a 4 pointed star when he's still holding it.
As for killing Naruto, maybe Kakuzu was more concerned with keeping Naruto from killing him then he was capturing a Jinchuuriki.
Anyway, the episode was pretty sweet. Dissapointed Rasenshurken has no range. The effect was suitably epic enough to make up for it though. Or at least, it would have been if Kakuzu had been shredded to nothingness. When he exploded into light there I thought for sure there was gonna be nothing left.
So...this is the first time Naruto has ever killed anyone in canon isn't it? I wonder if that's gonna effect him at all. Of course, Kakuzu was inhuman to the point of almost being some kind of zombie puppet thing. So maybe it won't phase him at all.
EDIT: Fixed, thanks Buff.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Thu, 12-11-2008 at 11:34 PM.
Also keep in mind, Yamato said the jutsu was about half complete.
Maybe the other half is getting him to throw it?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Ya know, something that is just starting to sink in now, about two hours after the episode, is what we actually just saw. Naruto, with two attacks lasting about 15 seconds each, just utterly and single handly destroyed a foe who had taken a Rakuri to the chest and just kept going, solidly defeating Kakashi not once (before Shikamaru's intervention) but twice. And Naruto would have done it in a single attack if he had been able to hold the technique a little longer. All without 1) summoning a billion clones and watching them all go poof to no effect, 2) Charging in like an idiot with no forthought or planning, 3) doing his fox cloak thing, 4) getting beat to !@#$ before doing anything useful.
It may indeed be a whole new Naruto. Here's hoping at least.
edit:
Eh, I'm sure it uses more, but I'm not sure we can make to solid of a judgement yet as to how much it uses. Remember that they made a point to draw attention to the fact that he was pretty beat up and worn out at the very start of the fight. I think he was already pretty much running on fumes at that point, which is why he is so totalled.Seems like Rasen-Shuriken uses up a lot more chakra than his regular counterpart. Naruto was flat out after the second attack.
Last edited by Azonalanthious; Thu, 12-11-2008 at 11:13 PM.
Had me confused for a sec there Darth.Originally Posted by DarthEnder
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Agree with the comment above about the music choice used for Naruto's new attack, would of been much cooler if it was more sinister. Also thought the fight was a little too predictable with the clone disapearing, saw it coming a mile off. Still enjoyable nonetheless, but is that Orochimaru stuff filler next week? :/
eh. the show just got a lot less interesting.. what a lame way of killing Kakuru.. kakashi holds his own, and they kill like 2 of his hearts during an amazing fight, and then naruto just comes in and finishes it in 2 attacks while everyone else just stands back and watches.
not looking forward to the filler coming up. but, what else is there in naruto...
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what makes you guys think the next episode is a filler, plus anything with oro and saskue should be good.
I don't know why I didn't say it last week, but it looked like a spirit bomb at first.
A bit disappointing. Such formidable opponent defeated by Naruto in two tries under 5 minutes. The clone switch and new rasengan technique is not good enough to justify this.
My heart sank when Naruto acknowledged the importance of teamwork but then goes off saying he needs to walk the bridge alone to grow up.
I actually liked the bridge speech.
So did I. It was better placed than all the other junk we've been fed. Dead Akatsuki brings back another thought -> rings.
I don't have any real complaints in general, but I agree this battle was underwhelming.
Kakuzu himself is to blame for his easy defeat. Guess after all those generations of experience he's still rather careless. It'd be a more interesting fight for him to nail the back clone, then expect and dodge an attack from the front guys (his back), only to have the one he nailed initially to punch a shredder in his face. For all this "new Naruto" business, this trick was straight out of the Neji's Chuunin fight.
A trip to Konoha would be even more worthwhile now with a Nine Tails and two rings all gathered in one place.
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Fri, 12-12-2008 at 09:05 AM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I think this was a decent enough episode. Kakuzu got defeated a bit easily, but on the other hand after Naruto's first failed attempt, I think he was seriously underestimating the opponent, and intended to finish the fight quickly while it seemed like he would be fighting Naruto alone, the others just standing still as a passive audience.
Kakuzu definitely understimated Naruto after the first failed attempt. He thought flying a bit was enough to evade the attack.
Rasen-shuriken's animation was fantastic. And it was done un-kyuubi-fied as well... imagine what effect it would have if Naruto used under the Kyuubi-cloak.
I certainly do not think that the speech is nonsensical but for someone as junior as Naruto to try facing off a century old Akatsuki member is suicidal. If he is not the main character, he would've been utterly defeated by now. I guess I really wanted to see Kakashi and rest helping out rather than standing there gawking at Naruto's awesomeness.
On the other hand, Shikamaru has been incredible, we've been shown enough evidence that Hidan is not the brightest and with the preparation that Shika has done in advance, his victory is well deserved.
Wow shikamaru is officially the coolest chunin ever, the rest of the village doesn't even compare.
The animation for the rasenshuriken was amazing, it made it so much more epic than in the manga.
So this arc is pretty much complete i guess, and from the looks of the preview emo-boy is coming back for the next one....
My take on why there was some lameness surrounding the use of rasen-shuriken on Kakuzu was simply because of the ho-hum animation this episode. I mean the Oodama-rasengan landed against Itachi was so much more lively in effect and satisfying, as unsophisticated it may be. But here, it's just Kakuzu getting prickles all around him + a generic sphere, without much particle/wave dynamic in between.
It's always struck me as odd that the Rasen* supposedly has to be hand delivered and can't be thrown, however once it connects with an enemy it seems to detach from the user and continue doing it's destructive thing as the target is pushed away from the user. Once Naruto hit Kakuzu with Rasenshuriken the doom ball seemed to get stuck to him and he and it both flew a good 100+ feet before the doom ball evolved into giant doom cloud. If the technique can push the target that far before 'activating' I don't see why Naruto shouldn't be able to just throw it at someone and have it hit them and then turn into the doom cloud.
Anyway, I liked the ep overall. I'm glad Shikamaru got the lighter back, and I thought Hidan's mad ravings were decently done. However, I also thought that Kakuzu did a little too much standing around. I don't see the point of him just waiting around for them to confer and decide what to do as opposed to trying for an attack of some sort while Naruto was down the first time. It was like he was just waiting around for them to come up with a way to kill him.
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