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    Seriously Abdula if you really want to show you don't give a fuck just don't give a fuck.

    Writing a page long post just cause some guy posted some idiocy will only prolong a discussion that doesn't have any merit to be discussed anymore anyway.

    Q. Does Kakashi have 2 or 3 elemental affinities?

    A. Dunno, don't care either. The only time we'll know is when Kishi decides to tell us and i'm fine with that.

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    Great episode. Even though it could have been better, I enjoyed it.

    Hidan better be dead now. Shikamaru killing an Akatsuki almost by himself - how awesome isn't that? I hope the backup is there only to get impressed.
    (Haven't watched the preview).

    By the way, it seems Naruto can throw his Fuuton Rasengan. And didn't he do it with one hand when doing that Gufuu Suika no Jutsu combo attack? Maybe it's just anime laziness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyrox
    Shikamaru killing an immortal Akatsuki by himself - how awesome is that?
    Corrected to truly show his awesomeness

    Shikamaru: He kicks so much ass he can even create a fucking paradox

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    Shout aside, I suspect it wasn't a fully formed rasengen in that case. The effect was similar to when he used one aspect of his rasengen training to create a whirlpool back in the race arc and I suspect that was basicly what was happening here as well. Rather then containing the spin in order to accelerate it and concentrate it, he simply generated the spin then released it into the water to form the vortex. Since, according to the inital training, his containment had to have every bit as much force as what he was putting into the spin, he is essentially leaving out a full half of the technique, rendering it much easier and so reasonably usable with only a single hand.

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    I figure there wasn't really much flashback because without it in this ep, we wouldn't know how Shikamaru avoided the attack.

    I liked the music when Naruto and gang made their entrance, pretty sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azonalanthious
    Shout aside, I suspect it wasn't a fully formed rasengen in that case. The effect was similar to when he used one aspect of his rasengen training to create a whirlpool back in the race arc and I suspect that was basicly what was happening here as well. Rather then containing the spin in order to accelerate it and concentrate it, he simply generated the spin then released it into the water to form the vortex. Since, according to the inital training, his containment had to have every bit as much force as what he was putting into the spin, he is essentially leaving out a full half of the technique, rendering it much easier and so reasonably usable with only a single hand.
    Looking back at the episode it seems like what he used in conjunction with the water technique was in fact a wind element rasengan. Not only does he shout Futon: Rasengan (Wind Element, Spiraling Sphere) but the animation of it looks the same as the one they showed him using against Kakashi in the flashback. So it appears it was a legitimate fusion of wind/water jutsu and not just naruto spinning the water around with a half made Rasengan. Makes more sense that way anyway. If Kakashi's water barrier couldn't stop a wind/fire element combo i don't see why naruto simply spinning a water jutsu around would.

    If he can throw it or not is debatable. The animation, though vague, seemed to hint at it. A regular rasengan can't be thrown, but it would make sense if a wind element one could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azonalanthious
    Shout aside, I suspect it wasn't a fully formed rasengen in that case. The effect was similar to when he used one aspect of his rasengen training to create a whirlpool back in the race arc and I suspect that was basicly what was happening here as well. Rather then containing the spin in order to accelerate it and concentrate it, he simply generated the spin then released it into the water to form the vortex. Since, according to the inital training, his containment had to have every bit as much force as what he was putting into the spin, he is essentially leaving out a full half of the technique, rendering it much easier and so reasonably usable with only a single hand.
    Only thing wrong with that theory is that back in the race arc, he concentrated on one thing: Chakra spin.

    Futon: rasengan implies wind elemental manipulation, which he can't do simultaneously, hence his necessary two clones when forming the Rasen Shuriken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyrox
    Great episode. Even though it could have been better, I enjoyed it.

    Hidan better be dead now. Shikamaru killing an Akatsuki almost by himself - how awesome isn't that? I hope the backup is there only to get impressed.
    (Haven't watched the preview).

    By the way, it seems Naruto can throw his Fuuton Rasengan. And didn't he do it with one hand when doing that Gufuu Suika no Jutsu combo attack? Maybe it's just anime laziness.
    I was thinking that too, Hidan better be dead after all the awesome stuff Shikamaru did. But why would there be back-up... That's what I'm afraid of...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSpirine
    But why would there be back-up... That's what I'm afraid of...
    Paku, Sakura and Sai just went to back him up.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    Paku, Sakura and Sai just went to back him up.
    I know, there must be a reason why Kishi sends backup... Probably because Shikamaru didn't finish his work
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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSpirine
    I know, there must be a reason why Kishi sends backup... Probably because Shikamaru didn't finish his work
    Maybe he sent back up because it would be too retarded not to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    Maybe he sent back up because it would be too retarded not to?
    You would think that, but it usually isn't
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    So, only adults are permitted to smoke on Japanese television? Seems kinda strange for Shikamaru to give Asuma a cigarette.
    "Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。

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    Sending back up is indeed the prudent thing to do, but it would also make for a cool scene if when the backup arrives Shikamaru is just chilling in the forest having beaten the guy who killed his mentor almost single-handedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyke
    So, only adults are permitted to smoke on Japanese television? Seems kinda strange for Shikamaru to give Asuma a cigarette.
    This censorship made Shikamaru throw away the lighter that Asuma owned. I was expecting him to keep it since they don't want to show him smoking...he is 15 after all...

    I was going to mention Sanji from One Piece, but he is 19...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    This censorship made Shikamaru throw away the lighter that Asuma owned. I was expecting him to keep it since they don't want to show him smoking...he is 15 after all...
    They're right in doing so. I can picture young people who adore Shikamaru after this current arc picking up smoking just because it makes them look intelligent. Behold the power of the media!
    "Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyke
    They're right in doing so. I can picture young people who adore Shikamaru after this current arc picking up smoking just because it makes them look intelligent. Behold the power of the media!
    Lol now that psyke's a parent he's all for lollipops replacing cigars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyke
    So, only adults are permitted to smoke on Japanese television? Seems kinda strange for Shikamaru to give Asuma a cigarette.
    Not like cancer is gonna do much to hurt Asuma now =P

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    And this was what I didn't like by the fact that Shikamaru didn't smoke. He had to throw the lighter.

    HE THREW THE BLOODY LIGHTER... The last keepsake from his sensei which he got at his deathbed, boom. Ah well.
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    You can see it as his way of saying goodbye, the last thing he learned from Asuma was the information how to handle Hidan. And with his help (the lighter) he'll defeat him?

    Far fetched or not?
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    I saw it as him finally able to "let things go".

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