Lets see....
Water jutsus Kakashi performed:
Mizu Bunshin
Water Barrier
Water Shark Missile
Water Explosion Thing
Giant Fuckin Water Dragon
Earth jutsus Kakashi performed:
Underground Arm-grab
Dog summon w/ scroll
I dunno you guys.....i dunno....
Lets see....
Water jutsus Kakashi performed:
Mizu Bunshin
Water Barrier
Water Shark Missile
Water Explosion Thing
Giant Fuckin Water Dragon
Earth jutsus Kakashi performed:
Underground Arm-grab
Dog summon w/ scroll
I dunno you guys.....i dunno....
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
We're not arguing that Water is probably his primary element Assertn(although I would argue that its lightning since that's the element of the only move he's ever created).
We're just saying that "Yes, it is possible to be able to use more than two elements." Which Abdula insists is not possible without scrolls or a technique that uses someone elses chakra.
But Kakashi has clearly used 3 different elements without scrolls. These are not fillers. These are all from the manga, and they're all clearly identified by the call outs before them telling you what element they are(suiton, doton, etc.)
Lets forget that this is an anime just for a moment. You find it hard to believe that a ghost would know where something is? Also don't forget you are assuming it is a ghost...Originally Posted by Uzumaki
As for the pace of the episode, honestly I figured it was done and over (was about to close it even) when the fade to black happened in the middle. I knew it was a double episode but honestly after the recent double eps I expected all of the content in the first half to be both episodes.
Overall I enjoyed it.
That is what I figured too, kind of messed up but it would probably be fairly effective...and they appeared right before Hidan was being executed which makes me think that they are going to eat his corpse.
Obviously the Deer are there for a reason, it wasn't just to be creepy. I wouldn't assume these deer are what we think of when we say deer though, sure they are similar but I doubt half a dozen "earth" deer are the prison Shikamaru setup for Hidan and regular deer sure don't show up on demand.and do you really believe it was coincidence that the camera focussed on a deer's eye (which is the mirror of it's soul btw) when he said "my clan will trap you here forever?"
I never liked the 'ghost' but I have to say that I never actually thought it WAS a ghost - I thought it was basicly all in Shikamaru's head, basicly showing that symbolicly Asuma was with him. I though it was a poor way of doing it, but thats all I thought it was, not an actual spirit.
Exactly, not to mention even if it was a ghost how do you know what knowledge they have access to? To be technical information is stored in the brain and accessed through electrical impulse, someone that is dead no long has these pulses thus no information. Ghosts should all be really dumb!
fine...
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/338/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/338/13/
Here's the two pages that the scene comes from.
Clearly, the intent was not for the deer to play a vital role in Hidan's demise.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Haha, the cigarette flick there is pretty badass.
OK I want to biatch about how the fillers stole the thunder of this episode, by coming up with that gay "hair monster" who could use all 4 elemental attacks and use its hair as a way to ensnare people. That stupid filler ripped of of this arc completely, and made Kakuzu like "ensnaring hair monster #2." >.<
Anyway, the deer only seemed deceptively important because english viewers never associated shikamaru with the word "deer" (shika) for the past 5 years naruto's been airing. But japanese viewers knew exactly shikamaru's affiliation with the forest and left it as that, and weren't transfixed by the deer being "some new spirit entering the scene."
I agree with your idea of the symbolism (though I was really wondering if they were going to eat him, seems fitting!) I was just playing devil's advocate with the other ideas.
They really need to hire some writers if they plan on doing filler episodes, not have the interns do it for them. It is pretty pathetic. They could have let her use all 4 elements even but the parallel between when she was just hair to Kakuzu at the end there is a bit much.OK I want to biatch about how the fillers stole the thunder of this episode, by coming up with that gay "hair monster" who could use all 4 elemental attacks and use its hair as a way to ensnare people. That stupid filler ripped of of this arc completely, and made Kakuzu like "ensnaring hair monster #2." >.<
Any chance it could have something to do with his little Uchiha transplant, that maybe the eye carried some baggage with it?
I said something about that a few topics ago, but someone shunned that away.
It seems it is hard to understand that someone can do multiple elements while not having its affinity
Hakke Rokujūyon Shō!
Kakashi can use all five elements though he has only showed 3 jutsus from different elements so far If we don’t count the filler katon he used against Sakura and Naruto, but what he can’t do is use powerful S-rank jutsus that aren’t lighting element because they are not his affinity so he would have to spend an eternity to learn an S-rank non raiton justu while an S-rank lighting one would be easier to master.
All this is proved by the manga, the only S-rank elemental jutsu Kakashi has ever used is raikiri, a raiton, having the sharingan allows him to copy other jutsus and use different elements easily but there is a limit depending how powerful, draining and demanding the jutsu is, certain jutsus are out of his reach, Kakuzu on the other hand has no limit, he can learn any elemental jutsu with the same ease even S-rank ones.
And for those who don’t know the trailer at the end of the episode is the preview for the next arc, it’s the first time they do such thing, maybe it’s because of the ratings in japan, the ratings haven’t been that good lately so they might want to use the preview to see if they get more audience later considering Sasuke is in the next arc, oh, and by the way, the next arc will mix canon with filler, the three tails and Deidara, Sasuke and Orochimaru part was in the manga.
Guys....it's symbolism, ok?
Deer is symbolic of the Nara clan. Their clan has been associated with deer for most of the series. Their clan supplies Tsunade with the antlers she uses to create medicines, and you see designs with deer on the doors of Shikamaru's house. Plus I think "Shika" means deer or some shit.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Anyone else thought it was kinda odd Naruto used Tajuu Kage Bunshin, which is for massive amounts of clones, to summon only 2 and 3?
Yup, I think Shikamaru himself said Shika when mentioning the deers.
Noticed it too, ridiculous he used Tajuu... like 2 or 3 clones is a mass...
Hakke Rokujūyon Shō!
Not sure if I am right or wrong, but thought I would throw this in. Mass Shadow clones is basically a technique that even with someone with a great eye ability like Sasuke or Neiji would not be able to tell the difference if its the real Naruto or not. Plus, regular clones do not gather experience like the Tajuu ones. So if he had used them, he would not have gained the expereince from their deaths.
Pretty sure that's not the case. Back during Naruto vs. Sasuke 2, Sasuke said his Sharingan let him pick out the real Naruto easily.
Naruto basically knows three techniques, Clone jutsu is the one that just makes illusions. He hasn't used that since like the first episode.
Shadow Clone jutsu is the one that makes solid clones.
Mass Shadow Clone jutsu is just when he used to make like 100 shadow clones at once. But they keep fucking that up for some reason.
That's news to me
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I wonder what the difference is between Futon: Rasengan, and Futon: Rasengan Shuriken. It looked different, but that's all the eye can differentiate.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Rasengan Shuriken is probably a nuke or bazooka, while the other rasengan is meant for close range. Btw, I wouldn't be too shocked if he just throws it at Kakuzu in the next episode and misses .... naturally shortly after they showed what happened in this episode before again for the first 2 minutes (followed by the opening) and stared at each other for like 1 or 2 minutes
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