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    when is the next season picking up? I'm trying to decide whether or not to read the manga

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterOfMoogles
    when is the next season picking up? I'm trying to decide whether or not to read the manga
    I'm a manga reader and i do recommend reading it. Its light years ahead of anime and just as good or even better than the anime.

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    No one really knows yet, it's only in the planning stages so far. The anime actually skipped 16 chapters, so we'll most likely get an OVA or two first.

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    Just marathonned everything. ie the first Hajime no Ippo ep 1 ---> New challenger. Pretty sweet stuff.

    I guess my main issue with the series is that they introduce weaknesses or strengths in a series (or even more jarringly - in a fight) only to forget about it, or end up rehashing things again.

    Like Takamura supposedly losing his stamina by the 5th round, then smashing out all those moves later.

    Or the latest Ippo vs Sendo fight, where Ippo's liver blows crack Sendo's ribs. Since their power is about equal, you'd think Sendo's face blows would brreak something too. Ippo doesn't have a neck like Date to absorb damage.

    Basically they make things look equal/negative to increase tension, and then instead of finding a "strategy" around it they just forget and plough through it. Guts.. as they like to put it.

    But all in all it was good. New challenger in HD and higher budget was a great welcome. It's weakness for me was Kumi. Her VA completely changed along with her voice. I liked her before as she sounded all cute and innocent - making a rather good match for Ippo's own personality. The new version though.. her maturity is best described as mismatched.

    The soundtrack was pure awesome. It probably helped capture the atmosphere and testosterone rushes in New Challenger more so than the first series. Only bad thing about it is its limited number of battle tracks.

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    When you have tracks like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7Vh8tVPjHk you don't need more than one!

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    Now that you mention the Dempsey Roll, that's another prime example of my previous case.

    Ippo already had killer punches. The problem he faced before was that he couldn't manoeuvre well enough on defence, and he ended up finding a way that let him dodge and attack at the same time.

    In the first match he used it, Ippo was pretty much forced to since that Thai fellow had godly resistance - but the Dempsey made short work of him. It was a killer move.

    Fast forward till now, not only did the Dempsey Roll seem less effective as time went by (even before he tried to make it faster), but now it's predictable with its weakness being counters.

    It seems to trod on the very reason it was introduced and used. :S

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    Well, that manages to seem both shounenesque and realistic at the same time.

    On the one hand, as a shounen series goes on, you need new bigger better moves constantly.

    On the other hand, these matches are televised. It makes sense that if a boxer whips out a new finishing move, and you know months ahead of time that you'll be facing that boxer next, you should probably be prepared to counter that move.

    It's not like a ninja battle where your enemy is a mystery and you have to create counters on the fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder View Post
    On the other hand, these matches are televised. It makes sense that if a boxer whips out a new finishing move, and you know months ahead of time that you'll be facing that boxer next, you should probably be prepared to counter that move.

    It's not like a ninja battle where your enemy is a mystery and you have to create counters on the fly.
    That's not the issue, this is:

    "It seems to trod on the very reason it was introduced and used. :S".

    The Dempsey was supposed to be hard to hit, now they're telling us it's actually easy to counter. If we wanted to be realistic, then the earlier form of calling it incomplete because it needed to be executed at a distance was perfect. You can't hit Ippo, but you can stop him by leaning on him.

    Giving it a weakness like that is good, but to fundamentally break it makes you wonder why it was even introduced.

    The mexican world champion being able to hit Ippo during their spar was supposed to almost humanly impossible.

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    No attack and no defense are perfect.

    Dempsey roll is a very old attack, you can wiki if you want, so if it was perfect everyone would use it and boxing would not exist anymore.

    It was the perfect attack at the time he used it, regarding his skills of the time and the oponents he had. Then everyone got better and he did too. Everyone also got to decipher the DR and try to specifically train to evade or counter it.
    I do not really see any plot hole here.

    Last but not least, emphasis is necessary to create passion and breathtaking moments. It's exactly what happens each match, hence some exagerations at times. This is not wrestling, but you do get some exageration nonetheless.

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    3rd Season Green-Lit / Airing This Fall

    FUCK YES!!!

    This year's 34th issue Kodansha's Weekly Shonen Manga is revealing on Wednesday that a third season of the television anime adaptation of George Morikawa's Hajime no Ippo (Fighting Spirit) manga has been green-lit. The anime is scheduled to begin airing this fall in Japan. The announcement image reads, “Ippo fights the formidable enemy, Sawamura! Dempsey breaks down!?”
    Souce: ANN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marik View Post
    FUCK YES!!!

    Souce: ANN
    Best news so far this week.

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    1) oh, we already had 2 seasons? thought it was one

    2) fuck whoever is responsible for such a fuck long wait between seasons. i mean ... come on! :/

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    I'm surprised they haven't pulled a HxH and started over from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    1) oh, we already had 2 seasons? thought it was one

    2) fuck whoever is responsible for such a fuck long wait between seasons. i mean ... come on! :/
    2) Just think a little
    Manga based anime needs manga material to have something to animate...

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    oh, im not following the manga. thought it was a finished series. my apologies then

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    The manga has 1016+ chapters and the last chapter animated is 420, so it's not a "needs more manga" issue, they can make 100+ episodes with that, and they will probably do only 26 again

    Been waiting for this announcement ever since it was teased by Takamuras VA, super excited

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    Hajime no Ippo: Rising

    Hajime no Ippo's 3rd Season Titled 'Rising'

    I hope it's longer than 26 episodes. I would like to see it go 52 eps at the very least.
    Last edited by Marik; Sun, 08-04-2013 at 12:35 AM. Reason: Added title...

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    Oh damn, thanks for reminding me, i still haven't seen the second season :P

    Any tips for the best sub-group to get it from?
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    Instead of watching the second season(or any season for that matter), you could just watch this clip 100 times.

    It's really all you need to know.

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