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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Why exactly would those random dudes at the drop off points know anything but the amounts and the faces of the targets for verification? It's obviously not the highest position in the organization to rot away in some hidden chamber behind a toilet.
    Ah but even the lackeys take their orders from someone. He doesn't have to know anything himself all he has to do is point them in the direction of someone who does. Even if all they get out of him is a name it'll be enough, and with all the crazy jutsus we've seen thus far I'm sure they must have some creative interrogation techniques.


    Some pesky bounty hunter might have blurted out the amount after Asuma kicked his ass. Also, Asuma knows himself best what he has done in the past so he can make pretty educated guesses who might want to see his head detached from between his shoulders.

    Real world mafias are also underground organizations but everybody knows they exists in quite a few countries and are heavily involved in various legal and illegal businesses. Doesn't make them any less underground organizations.
    I'm rather confused. I don't see the point you're trying to make here.

    The point I was trying to make wasn't whether the organization was underground or not but that it was explicitly said that an underground organization put the bounty on Asuma's head and I would think Konoha would definitely be very interested in an organization that is paying out money for the corpses of its most prominent ninjas. They certainly won't just let it be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    I would think Konoha would definitely be very interested in an organization that is paying out money for the corpses of its most prominent ninjas. They certainly won't just let it be.
    I wouldn't place too much trust on Konoha. Despite the group hosting the massacrer of one of the most important Konoha clans, they did absolutely nothing to wipe out Akatsuki before their ally ninja village's leader was kidnapped by the group. And actually even then they only wanted to save that leader and engage Akatsuki members if necessary to fulfil that objective. So, I wouldn't say they pay too much attention to criminal organizations or follow leads too deeply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    I wouldn't place too much trust on Konoha. Despite the group hosting the massacrer of one of the most important Konoha clans, they did absolutely nothing to wipe out Akatsuki before their ally ninja village's leader was kidnapped by the group. And actually even then they only wanted to save that leader and engage Akatsuki members if necessary to fulfil that objective. So, I wouldn't say they pay too much attention to criminal organizations or follow leads too deeply.
    Well it's been mentioned before but Konoha's military power has lowered drastically in the last couple of years and quite frankly engaging akatsuki at that point would be suicidal.

    i think they made the right move by ignoring them while they could while they fortified their power ( shinobi ) so they could eventually take them down.

    That at least, does seem to have been a good move on Tsunade's part.

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    It doesn't matter....everyone in Konoha knows that their prominent ninjas have bounties on them. Asuma not only knew that he had a bounty on his own head, but that his is larger than Chiriku's. It's no surprise that other villages want people dead. It's a different matter when those villages act on this.
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    I bet Konohamaru already have a bounty on his head just for being a descendant of the Sarutobi clan. I'm guessing about 3 1/2 ryou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    It doesn't matter....everyone in Konoha knows that their prominent ninjas have bounties on them. Asuma not only knew that he had a bounty on his own head, but that his is larger than Chiriku's. It's no surprise that other villages want people dead. It's a different matter when those villages act on this.
    You're guys are being rather closed minded. Anyway......

    1. I don't think many ninjas actually have bounties on their heads.
    2. Even if they are prominent ninjas or the best in the village that doesn't guarantee that they actually have a bounty.
    3. The more ideas you guys have about how this supposed bounty system would work, the less and less likely it seems to me.
    4. The fact that Kakuzu was carrying around Chiriku's entire dead body intact, leads me to believe that placing bounties on someone isn't just about wanting them dead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    I wouldn't place too much trust on Konoha. Despite the group hosting the massacrer of one of the most important Konoha clans, they did absolutely nothing to wipe out Akatsuki before their ally ninja village's leader was kidnapped by the group. And actually even then they only wanted to save that leader and engage Akatsuki members if necessary to fulfil that objective. So, I wouldn't say they pay too much attention to criminal organizations or follow leads too deeply.
    Itachi aside because I don't think thats really relevant. I don't have that impression of Konoha. They had only just found out about Akatsuki when Oro attacked the village and at that point rebuilding was their main priority. Since the skip it seems they have been a lot proactive. They have undoubtedly still been gathering info on Oro and Akatsuki and Tsunade even formed a special group just for the purpose of hunting them down. Plus Danzo and the elders are undoubtedly looking into it.

    So I wouldn't say they haven't been doing anything I just think its all been going on off screen because all Kishi's screen time is devoted to developing Naruto instead of the world around him. Kishi has definitely done a good job of making the villages seem weak and inept, and makes it seem as if Konoha wouldn't be able to do a single thing if not for a kid in an orange jump suit but I just don't think its true.

    The village would have never survived if they weren't actively pursuing and eliminating threats to them and Kishi gave us a little glimpse of that with Danzo and Sai.
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