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    I'm not saying Kakashi doesn't have a bounty over his head. But the reasoning that because Kakashi is stronger than Asuma (who has a bounty) he'll have a bounty on his head doesn't do it for me.

    That Kakashi is wanted wouldn't be so weird, especially because of the rarity the sharingan is. But who do you send after him?
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    like the databooks have stated numerous times, kakashi is the strongest jounin in the village, there is simply no way to question if he is even remotely stronger then asuma.
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    Asuma only has a bounty because of the fact that he was in that group of guardians. And really to say that Asuma isnt lower than Kakashi is an understatement. The Sharingan trumps most non-bloodline limit anyday.

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    Oh i'm positive Kakashi has a bounty. At the very least, we already know he's on the mist village's bingo book.
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    If Kakashi had a bounty on his head Kakuzu would have undoubtedly let us know. The thing that seems to be lost here is the significance of the 12 ninja guardians. Although the villages play a major role in this series in the big picture, the villages are really a very small part of the Naruto world, and the ninja guardians protected the Feudal Lord who is the leader of the entire country. The villages are only a small part of that country, and don't allow yourself to think that the Feudal Lord isn't important just because of some crappy filler episodes.

    @Assertn: being in a bingo book is a little different from having some nefarious organization put a bounty on your head.
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    I thought the bingo book had something to do with rogue ninjas... Ninjas from your own village that took of carrying the town secrets (bloodlines or others)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    @Assertn: being in a bingo book is a little different from having some nefarious organization put a bounty on your head.
    What nefarious organization? Bounties are placed on individuals that are considered dangerous to other countries. If a country wants someone dead, then that person's head becomes valuable.

    It's not like there's just some random group out there collecting corpses for their own interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    It's not like there's just some random group out there collecting corpses for their own interest.
    This is Naruto so who knows? Based on the Third-Oro fight all you need is a corpse of a great man and the soul of a nobody, and you can summon an undead warrior possessing all the unique skills the dead man once had yet obeying your every command like a slave. That's the most advanced and powerful necromancy of pretty much any story, so corpses themselves would be of immense value and easily worth even a sizable sum of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Why not? If Kakashi has a reputation out there, has captured lots of big name villains, has hampered plots against the people in the Fire country, it would make sense he could earn a bounty just to get rid of him. If you are special, you can't be easily replaced and thus it's worth it to get rid of you individually. In the real world a war rarely misses one man but in the Naruto world losing Kakashi would be a significant blow to Konoha.

    Just because you were a member of some old dusty group not anymore even existent shouldn't give you much of a bounty. However, if that group was something special and did something special that still matters, it's another story. Having a bounty also assumes there's somebody interested in paying the money, and that usually requires somebody benefits from the death.
    Abdula has the right of it here I'm certain. There's a difference between having a bounty on your head, and being in a ninja villages bingo book. Ninja villages don't pay their shinobi to kill their villages enemies. It's their duty to do so.

    In order to have a bounty on your head, some member of the private sector must want you dead. And its likely some criminal organization(like the one Gato belonged to), facilitates those transactions.

    I think the most likely situation is that the 12 Guardians did things in the service of the Lord of the Fire County that drew the ire of some other feudal lord. Hence their bounties.

    If most of Kakashi's time is spent fighting shinobi from other villages, he's probably in the bingo books of all those villages, but those villages don't offer a money reward for his head. They expect their own shinobi to take him out if they get the opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow
    like the databooks have stated numerous times, kakashi is the strongest jounin in the village, there is simply no way to question if he is even remotely stronger then asuma.
    I would consider those databooks out there to be Spoilers because they haven't come out to state that, have they? And most of the time, these databooks get data from the manga.

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    I'm pretty sure Kakashi has a bounty on his head. Just nobody has really cared enough to go after him just for money. And the only people stronger than Kakashi are probably only Kage and Akatsuki-caliber shinobis, that's not to overestimate Kakashi, but from what we've seen, it seems to be the case.. Yeah, that's kinda a lose-lose.

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    u think orochimaru will go after him once he realizes he won't be able to use sasuke's body?

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    Why won't he be able to use Sasuke's body?

    And no. He doesn't just want the sharingan, he wants an Uchiha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow
    like the databooks have stated numerous times, kakashi is the strongest jounin in the village, there is simply no way to question if he is even remotely stronger then asuma.
    Hmm that piece of information that hasn't yet been revealed in the anime. Is it THAT hard for forum posters to just derive their opinions on what they've watched, and shut their trap about everything else they've read about Naruto?

    Also, what's with the excessive cursing in the DB translation. Hidan calls Choji a "fat f***" when he merely said "fatty." If only I knew more japanese so I wouldn't take DB's lame potty mouth interpretation at face value.

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    Because in DB's translator's opinion, that's how Hidan would talk if he were English-speaking based on his attitude.

    I personally think it's not necessary, I like the TW/AonE translation styles better, but since it really does fit his character, I can live with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilphatboi88
    I would consider those databooks out there to be Spoilers because they haven't come out to state that, have they? And most of the time, these databooks get data from the manga.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff_from_MD
    Hmm that piece of information that hasn't yet been revealed in the anime. Is it THAT hard for forum posters to just derive their opinions on what they've watched, and shut their trap about everything else they've read about Naruto?
    Wow. Just Wow. Its been said more than once by multiple people, get with the program. Oh and a little advice. Don't mess with DS, its just a bad idea.
    Also, what's with the excessive cursing in the DB translation. Hidan calls Choji a "fat f***" when he merely said "fatty." If only I knew more japanese so I wouldn't take DB's lame potty mouth interpretation at face value.
    Its not excessive, its not excessive at all. They are actually painting a pretty accurate picture of Hidan because he curses a whole lot more in the manga. DB is actually doing a good job of toning it down.
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  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Why won't he be able to use Sasuke's body?

    And no. He doesn't just want the sharingan, he wants an Uchiha.
    I don't think he'll be able to use Sasuke's body because I feel like the whole point of the Naruto anime right now is to stop Oro from getting Sasuke. And this being a shounen and all, I feel like I can predict it's not going to happen. And if this has already happened in the manga, there will be a plot twist in which Sasuke will be back to normal.

    Unless, Kishi or whatever his name is, decides to go back to his old ways and stop caring about American fans, then Oro will take Sasuke's body for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilphatboi88
    I don't think he'll be able to use Sasuke's body because I feel like the whole point of the Naruto anime right now is to stop Oro from getting Sasuke. And this being a shounen and all, I feel like I can predict it's not going to happen. And if this has already happened in the manga, there will be a plot twist in which Sasuke will be back to normal.

    Unless, Kishi or whatever his name is, decides to go back to his old ways and stop caring about American fans, then Oro will take Sasuke's body for good.
    You honestly think he cares what you think?

  19. #99
    Who and what are you talking about?

    I just gave my opinion on why I don't think Oro will take over Sasuke's body.

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    I think it's painfully obvious what I'm referring to, which is the assumption you make that he's ever remotely had an American demographic in mind when he made his manga. Besides, that statement sounds like all kinds of angry fanboy.

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