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    So anyone notice that Nel did absolutely nothing. All that fuss and all she was good for was buying time for the real fighter to show up.
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    The only thing I'm confused about is when she said "Don't worry, I won't take your life," then proceeds to hurl another strike at Nnoitra before changing back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadouku
    The only thing I'm confused about is when she said "Don't worry, I won't take your life," then proceeds to hurl another strike at Nnoitra before changing back.
    She was saying, "This won't kill you but it will incapacitate you"

    I'm kind of curious about Nnoitra though, the other Espada seem to have normal katana for their unreleased swords, he doesn't. Is he in a permanent state of release or does he just use an odd weapon? The first doesn't make much sense but if he does just use a strange weapon I wonder why it hasn't been brought up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessper
    She was saying, "This won't kill you but it will incapacitate you"
    Hmm, I see.

    I'm kind of curious about Nnoitra though, the other Espada seem to have normal katana for their unreleased swords, he doesn't. Is he in a permanent state of release or does he just use an odd weapon? The first doesn't make much sense but if he does just use a strange weapon I wonder why it hasn't been brought up.
    It's just probably his "style" of using a strange weapon.
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    I finally caught up on Bleach, even though after all this time there were only five episodes worth watching..

    I was SHOCKED at Zaraki's appearance.. shocked and SO freaking happy. Now I wonder what the hell will happen next. I'm sure that Zaraki could own anyone.. but Aizen + Zaraki? Hmm!
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    Unless he's received some sort of powerup, Zaraki shouldn't be able to beat anyone here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    Unless he's received some sort of powerup, Zaraki shouldn't be able to beat anyone here.
    Don't you talk bad about Zaraki!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    Unless he's received some sort of powerup, Zaraki shouldn't be able to beat anyone here.
    I see no reason why not. These guys so far haven't been that strong. Ichigo just has been somewhat sucking except for the moment when Inoue finally cheered him. At that (brief) moment Ichigo was what he should have been all the time. For example Nnoitra has shown nothing Zaraki shouldn't be able to beat. The only thing I'd worry about is speed, but if you think about it, it has been a long time since there was a single (serious) opponent who wasn't as fast or faster than Ichigo, and Ichigo was supposed to be really fast. So, in the light of recent evidence Ichigo's speed is nothing peculiar, and thus there's no reason to assume Zaraki, having been a captain for a while and beating lots of folks, couldn't handle that as well.

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    when i heared the music that played in the last part where ichigo was beaten to death,i expected hollow ichigo to appear coz this music usually plays before he appears but the arrival of zaraki is great too and i hope that zaraki vs noitra battle will be tough enough so that we may see zaraki knowing the name of his sword and become more freakin' stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    Unless he's received some sort of powerup, Zaraki shouldn't be able to beat anyone here.
    It's been like 100 non filler episodes since he last fought, he is now more powerfull than God

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    It's been like 100 non filler episodes since he last fought, he is now more powerfull than God
    And we know how badly Ichinose lost to Zaraki.

    Other than that, with his eye-patch removed, Zaraki can probably fight Espada at equal or higher level. Poor Tesla is gonna get eaten, probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadouku
    Other than that, with his eye-patch removed, Zaraki can probably fight Espada at equal or higher level.
    but can he see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?

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    Hmmmmm,

    This episode was interesting but now I await Kenpachi kicking the 5th Espada's A$$ xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadouku
    And we know how badly Ichinose lost to Zaraki.

    Other than that, with his eye-patch removed, Zaraki can probably fight Espada at equal or higher level. Poor Tesla is gonna get eaten, probably.
    Zaraki never really fought Ichigo. He could have killed him in the first 10 seconds of the fight if he had wanted. That fight simply isn't a good judge of his strength.

    Yes, Tesla is going to be a quick show of power to give Nnoitra a clue he should be scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessper
    Zaraki never really fought Ichinose. He could have killed him in the first 10 seconds of the fight if he had wanted. That fight simply isn't a good judge of his strength.
    At least Zaraki got serious enough (even if it was for one second) to unleash his eye-patch upon Ichinose's Soul Slayer, Nijigasumi. But you are right. Battles like that aren't really a good way to measure a character's power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadouku
    At least Zaraki got serious enough (even if it was for one second) to unleash his eye-patch upon Ichinose's Soul Slayer, Nijigasumi. But you are right. Battles like that aren't really a good way to measure a character's power.
    Erm, I assumed you meant Ichigo because that fight was filler so it isn't grounded in the reality of the Manga, even if the result was the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessper
    Erm, I assumed you meant Ichigo because that fight was filler so it isn't grounded in the reality of the Manga, even if the result was the same.
    Heh, we all want to forget the fillers, someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    It's been like 100 non filler episodes since he last fought, he is now more powerfull than God
    Well yes, he obviously has powered up since then. I'm saying that if he hadn't, he wouldn't even be able to beat any of the Espada. He couldn't even beat Ichigo before he had his Bankai.

    By all rights, Yami should be able to kick his ass if he hasn't powered up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder
    He couldn't even beat Ichigo before he had his Bankai.
    Ho... When did this happen?

    Come on, man. We have been through this ten times, and even you have to admit Zaraki could have ended that fight during the first four seconds if he had wanted. Instead he kept coaching Ichigo, trying to get the most out of him, and he finally succeeded for that final clash. And that final clash was the only thing Zaraki was looking for. He wasn't looking for a way to kill Ichigo. The whole thing was like an M1A2 and an assault rifle man meeting, and the tank crew opening the hatches and sticking their heads out so that the fight would be more fair for the rifleman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Ho... When did this happen?

    Come on, man. We have been through this ten times, and even you have to admit Zaraki could have ended that fight during the first four seconds if he had wanted. Instead he kept coaching Ichigo, trying to get the most out of him, and he finally succeeded for that final clash. And that final clash was the only thing Zaraki was looking for. He wasn't looking for a way to kill Ichigo. The whole thing was like an M1A2 and an assault rifle man meeting, and the tank crew opening the hatches and sticking their heads out so that the fight would be more fair for the rifleman.
    Yeah, if Kenpachi had killed him right off the bat, he would have won. But Ichigo had a huge powerup DURING that fight, and by the end, he was Stronger than Kenpachi.

    I don't have any doubt that if they'd both rested up fully after that battle and went at each other again, full strength, Ichigo still would win.

    And since then, Ichigo has obtained Bankai, and learned to control his Hollow mask. Two MASSIVE powerups. Kenpachi, until they reveal otherwise, hasn't done anything.

    Since Ichigo needed to use Bankai to even wound Yami, the Kenpachi that Ichigo fought shouldn't even be able to wound the Espada.


    Now, I don't believe for a minute that any of this is the case, because I'm 100% sure that Kenpachi WILL have done something to power up. Personally, I'm hoping he's learned his Zanpaktou's name and obtained his Shikai. But they haven't revealed anything yet. And if he does do something like kick Noitra's ass without revealing any new abilities, I'm gonna call bullshit on Kishi's writing.

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