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    To be blunt, this episode was pretty good. Especially Sai

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    great episode again
    Keep em coming I say
    Luckily I didn't watch the preview of the last episode, and I'm not doing it again

    At first when I saw those masks on his back, I thought his body was made from parts of dead ANBU members.
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    Great episode. Kakashi really shows how amazing he is which is a nice change of pace. I'll bet that Kakuzu himself has a water affinity thus we have all 5. As we saw before though, one Jounin (even someone like Kakashi) isn't going to have a chance with having to protect 3 others. If the Naruto scenes are chronologically ordered with the rest of the episode I don't see him making it out there in time. Perhaps someone else will intervene (we have not seen Jiraya in a while...) and change the tide of this fight.

    Also, Kakashi mentioned that he shouldn't be able to use techniques of this level with out having the affinity for them. That should solve the earlier arguement about if you can use techniques you don't have the affinity for.

    After all the crap I caught last episode this is pretty funny. I overestimated Shikamaru apparently, he didn't last 2 episodes before running out of Chakara. Looks like he has run out of plans, imagine that after he wasted his few opportunities to have a quick win. (I'm sure I'll get a ton of flak for this too lol)

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    Well, as much as I agree with that, at this point its pretty obvious that no single attack would have taken out Kakuzu, and no amount of planning would have prepared them for his abilities.

    I like how they explain elemental vulnerabilities right before its obviously going to become important.


    Anyway, the episode was epic. E-pic.

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    The animation for Kakuzu's attacks was formidable...

    The part at the end was gold...

    Gai: You look pale Sai.
    Sai: I always do.

    Sai (wearing green jumpsuit): So, how does it look?
    Sakura: Bluntly? It looks Gay.

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    Awesome episode. FAIL preview.

    Really, how much more awesome would Kakashi's attack have been if we didn't know Kakuzu would survive, because he HAD to strip and show his masks. Other than that, and this week's preview again, this is just badass. Kakashi shows that in a world of power-ups and mutant abilities, a lot still comes down to good old ninja basics.

    -He read the opponent's move using his Sharingan.
    -He had an elemental advantage over Earth.

    Those two things don't make you a winner. You still have to a) hide your presence, b) know your ninjitsu facts inside out, and c) be fast as hell, as well as decisive, and possess good judgement.

    Naruto has all the powerup in the world, but he's a Genin for a reason.

    Edit: Yes, Shikamaru did disappoint. And notice that it didn't matter whether Ino was hiding or not. No one gave a shit.

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    My guess: Kakuzu had an affinity for earth. He somehow sealed the chakra of other ninja into those greasy plasmus things that are tied to him through the masks. Voila, him + 4 others = 5 potential affinities for elements.

    Kakashi smushed one mask, broke the tie to Kakuzu, so he probably has only 4 left.

    When Hidan went after Kakashi I kept thinking oh crap Kakashi is gonna die.

    I hope no one wants to use that field once Naruto is done with it. Maybe a swimming resort can be built on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tystic
    My guess: Kakashi had an affinity for earth.
    Their names looked so similar, that's what I read it as the first time. Remember how Kakashi said Jounins can usually use 2 elements, but Kakashi simply ignored Naruto's question about his second affinity? Like someone said before, this episode answers out question about affinity and technique usage. Potentially, Kakashi has one huge trump card that no one's ever seen. (Except maybe Guy and the 4th) I hope they didn't build this up for nothing.

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    That's pretty lame that DB didn't translate all 5 elements that Yamato listed...
    I'm surprised people aren't asking about what those relationships are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    That's pretty lame that DB didn't translate all 5 elements that Yamato listed...
    I'm surprised people aren't asking about what those relationships are.


    Should be good enough... [This translation should be correct]

    Though these don't seem right, since lightning should be strong to earth yet it shows it the other way. It seems from the information we've been given (wind > lightning and lightning > earth) that earth and lightning were switched in this picture? Anyone want to do a translation and see? =) [Mystery Solved!]

    This is DB's translation for the symbols placed on the relationship image we were given.

    Edit: did a tiny bit of research and it appears that I'm right, the symbols are switched. I couldn't find the symbol for lightning but the rest match up and earth should be the bottom left. Though feel free to correct me here, my google-foo might not stand up to scrutiny.

    Another Edit: Fixed the picture~
    Last edited by Jessper; Fri, 11-14-2008 at 02:12 AM.

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    According to manga translation it's (from the top and going clockwise)
    Fire > Wind > Lightning > Earth > Water > (Fire)

    So yeah, mistranslation.
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    Either my ISP is blocking dattebayo.com, their server is offline or their connection is being zombied DoS. No Shipuuden torrent for me.

    Side note: Can't see how I could've been banned but you never know about these things LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12345p
    Either my ISP is blocking dattebayo.com, their server is offline or their connection is being zombied DoS. No Shipuuden torrent for me.

    Side note: Can't see how I could've been banned but you never know about these things LOL
    Yay. Website back up. Hurray for me.

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    So many nice episodes in a row, I actually look forward to episodes again for the first time in a couple years

    and don't be fooled by the actionless preview, next episode is almost certainly going to be the best Shippuuden episode yet

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    I enjoyed the episode as well, though one of my first thoughts after watching Kakashi absorb the lightning attack is "well, now we have to rename him yoda." One thing I am wondering about - if memory serves, Kakashi can use chidori 4 times a day - he used it once already. I imagine he can take down the mask dudes with it (3 more uses), but that leaves him out of uses just when he needs to use it again to finish things. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.

    Also - I hope Ino pulls out something to save the team from the fire - I hate seeing her come down with the whole Sakura "I am totally useless" syndrome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azonalanthious
    I imagine he can take down the mask dudes with it (3 more uses), but that leaves him out of uses just when he needs to use it again to finish things. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.
    I'm almost positive that after all this vulnerability talk they will have to use the element each mask is weak vs to kill it. So Chidori is going to be out for fighting Kakuzu anymore.

    And I don't see what could be wrong with the translation of DB about the weaknessess...
    According to the picture in clockwise it's stronger.
    I fixed it in my picture, they switched earth and lightning in their translation.

    As for the elemental weaknesses it is pretty silly all around. Throwing dirt on a fire will put it out as well if not better than water. Don't try and make real connections, just assume that was one example that worked and the rest is just how it works in the Naruto universe.

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    holy crap.
    [quote]I actually look forward to episodes again[/quote I can't agree with you more.

    this fight is so awesome. man! when kakashi just punched through the guy. I couldn't believe it! it would of been so awesome if they just left the guy dead, and that was it for him. that would of been such an awesome way to kill him off. but still, keeping him alive is just as awesome because we get to see his techniques and stuff.

    man! when Kakashi just jumped in front of the lightening thing and blocked it! that was such an awesome scene.

    I don't get why Naruto's forcing himself to do all this training.. he won't get it in any less time than the time they have, and even if he does, he'll still be like worn out and dead tired from days of endless training. it would be stupid to send him there. and I really hope that he doesn't go into this fight. that would be absolutely the worst way to end this fight. with him using his new technique to finish one of them off.. awman, I just thought of that as a possibility and now I'm half looking forward to the awesome episodes, but at the same time I'm half dreading the possibilities.. dang it..

    oh yeah, and Ino just running into the fight going 'ohh no guys! guys watch out!!'. that was so dumb.. I sighed with disappointment..

    this fire beats wind beats lightening thing puts a new spin on Kakashi and Guy's rock paper scissor matches.

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    Yeah, Kakahi's chidori totally caught me by surprise. Was so awesome to see.

    And I don't see what could be wrong with the translation of DB about the weaknessess...
    According to the picture in clockwise it's stronger. Counter clockwise is weaker.
    I do have to say, it's not logical that lightning is stronger than earth... If I've learned anything from Pokemon, it should be turned around
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    I don't see how that works neither, but they couldn't really have it any other way.

    Maybe

    Earth>lightning>water>fire>wind>Earth.

    After all, wind nature is supposed to cut, and earth seems to be the most physical/solid of the 5 elements.

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