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    Hey I said known, not significant.

    Of course I dont deny the evidence going to show that this could well be Kakashi's last stand. As Archangel pointed out, a flashback is very likely to come giving us the more pages (that I wanted) to justify Kakashi's death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireEmblem
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    I didn't say I wanted each and every character to have a fight. We know that a manga with THIS many characters can't afford that. But i'm simply talking about 6-8 characters from Konoha that will be at a high level of fighting ability with Naruto and Sasuke having to be at the top obviously. And it's not as much about the actual fights, as it is to represent Konoha's will of fire and the fact that this generation is suppose to surpass the last.

    Also about your example of Neji beating an Akatsuki. That would be pretty stupid I agree, since even Sasuke almost died to beat one (who suicided anyway lol) and he is clearly the strongest of the starting genins. That's not what i'm saying though, and we know typically Konoha will send a platoon (4) to fight Akatsuki. Are you saying that by the time they're in their 20's, some of these characters that already possess great fighting abilities, shouldn't be able to gang up on....Kisame?

    And I don't see how Tenten isn't more useless than Shino. Though I don't understand why he'd stand out as super useless to you compared to other characters that actually have useless abilities.
    6 to 8 elite konoha ninjas (who don't come from the hokage generation?)...
    Ibiki, Anko, Aoba, Gai, Yamato, Sai, Shizune.
    they range from high-chunin to anbu level (high jounin), established characters who we know as tough, proficient ninjas. they can fight, tell stories of the past, and represent the entire population of the village.
    no need to bring back Lee and Neji from the dead, you don't have to massively increase Kiba's fighting power, and you don't need to write stupid game plans for shino.

    why would anyone gang up on Kisame? he's going to turn around and help Naruto defeat Madare in a few chapters...

    maybe if Naruto did something else other than fighting (reckon, stealing, kidnapping, transporting, diverting attention) a group of low level ninjas could get some screen time, but until then, it's best that they stay in the offscreen, doing their missions, and not hogging screen time from plot events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    And Chouji's dad counts as a known character. Ino has gotten more development/screen time than him, Ino.
    Use Tenten as an example, it has more impact on your words.

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    I'm still trying to figure out how Chouji's dad died....

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    Chouji fell on him I bet.

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    Actually I think that they just skipped part of the fight to show again later. I mean we didnt get to see Kakashi use his MS the first time, amd suddenly everyone is in worse shape then they were? Probably be a flashback later I am guessing.

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Doubt it. Unless you guys are new to the manga, you should know by now that Kishimoto isn't against leaving out large parts of a fight if he considers it trivial.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Doubt it. Unless you guys are new to the manga, you should know by now that Kishimoto isn't against leaving out large parts of a fight if he considers it trivial.
    That's not always a bad thing. Sometimes the anime is able to make good use of those blank spaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archangel
    That's not always a bad thing. Sometimes the anime is able to make good use of those blank spaces.
    "Sometimes" is the key word here, though :P

    imo it's all just more Kakashi's death cockteasing, unless next chapter is the beginning of Kakashi Gaiden 2

  10. #50
    If KG2 starts then we know Kakashi is dead. Though what could we possibly learn from another KG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    If KG2 starts then we know Kakashi is dead. Though what could we possibly learn from another KG?
    We still have no idea how he met yamato or how he joined the ANBU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter
    If KG2 starts then we know Kakashi is dead. Though what could we possibly learn from another KG?
    That's what I meant

    Well he did say on the last page "Rin... Obito..." and I had this bad impression it was an introduction to an incoming flashback. Not to mention Kishi took a week off to "polish" it :/

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    Needs to be a Yondaime Gaiden soon. It'd be nice to learn about his adolescent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animus
    Needs to be a Yondaime Gaiden soon. It'd be nice to learn more about his adolescent years.
    It would be nice to know more, period.

    One of the most awesome characters in the story and we know close to nothing about him.

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    Correct me If I'm wrong but how is Konan in Konoha AND at the tower at the same time?

    Konoha:- http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/422/02/

    Tower:- http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/08/

    Am I missing some really important point here?

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    you missed the entire humorist sketch about konoha having a giant brain scanner...
    that part is a flashback, from the penetrated mind of the guy who's held captive by Konoha inside the ministry of truth.

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    Jiraya picked up 2 random guys from the rainy country and they just happened to be pain's body providers.

    Isn't that a little too convenient?

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    Yes. This is Naruto, however. If it was a kind of cheese, it would be gouda.

    ruccus: Ino's father is a genjutsu specialist, and was reading the goatee'd dude's mind. What you saw in the Rain village was a flashback.

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    uhm no it's not convienent, who says they were the ONLY one's bringing corpses there? they didn't even know the real reason why they were bringing them there.

    And even IF they were the only ones, luck is something that happens in the real world too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow
    uhm no it's not convienent, who says they were the ONLY one's bringing corpses there? they didn't even know the real reason why they were bringing them there.

    And even IF they were the only ones, luck is something that happens in the real world too.
    Pain doesn't need that many bodies, so why would he risk more people knowing about this since it could very well be where the key to his secret lies hidden?

    There's luck, there's dumb luck, and then there's anime luck, where you pick 2 random guys from a whole country and they just happen to be key parts on the bad guy's evil master-plan.

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