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    Tytania



    In a future where mankind is scattered across the stars, the TAITANIA family has forged a large empire through intimidation and economic might. In the year 446, the city-state of EURIA rebels against the tyranny of TAITANIA control. Their isolated act of rebellion sets into motion a sequence of events that strains the careful alliances and treaties within the empire, as various factions seek to exploit the situation to their own advantage. In the ensuing turmoil, ambitious members of the Taitania Royalty begin moving against each other in an effort to settle old grievances and seize control of the family. What started as an act of rebellion in EURIA, quickly expands into a civil war - with the wealth and power of the empire up for grabs to whoever is bold enough to seize it.

    Based on a novel-inspired manga series written by TANAKA Yoshiki and illustrated GANTETSU, serialized in Shonen Sirius (Kodansha)

    This has been described as being a complicated space opera or epic. The original story was published as a series of three novels (1988 thru 1991), and is open ended - as in no conclusion or ending was ever published!!

    The series uses the same director (Noboru Ishiguro) and animation company (Artland) as the space-epic Legend of the Galactic Heroes.
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    Was looking forward to a sub for a long time. I've always liked Space Operas and what not. Downloading!



    edit: Watched the first episode. I enjoyed it a lot. I was kept interested all episode long. Looks like a series to stick with.
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    Could use more hot chicks but otherwise it looked interesting. You really can tell logh people were involved. I hope this will turn out epic.

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    Me too, the first episode has me hooked. I hope it doesnt get lame as the series progress.

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    Space Opera?

    LOGH people?

    /me rabid gets

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    well, i'll tell you what, this thing does remind me a ton of LOGH, but it's not quite the same at all. I won't go into anything that might give stuff away about the other series, but while we do have a reincarnation of Yang Wenli (but with bubble gum instead of whiskey? Not cool!) and an evil empire, it's not the same at all.

    The Empire has the clear edge, but it's obvious that the situation between the factions composing the Empire are brittle, at best. Like Ajman said, fear is what's keeping the other people in check. The Tytania family runs the show, so much so that people cheer for them on the Emperor's birthday, and they can straight up go against his wishes with great impudence. But people everyone outside of that family is just waiting for a chance to pull the rug out from under them. Of course, there are a few things keeping them in check.

    Jouslain Tytania is, to me, the main one. Guys with silver hair don't last too long, generally, and out of the three sons, it's clear Jouslain is the smartest and the favorite. He seems to be the most balanced and patient out of the four (the only one to not openly say that fear is the best means to control the people. Strange to say 'Luppi' from Bleach is the most balanced out of anyone...

    Ajman (I remember him as Berga in Baccano! and Nathan in Gungrave), is the guy who must have started everything for his family, but I don't think he'll get to see the end of it all (part of why he's on such a kick about 100 years of peace, he knows he won't either.). But the guy's card is intimidation, and that takes you only so far sometimes. Interesting that he has made no play for the throne and really seems to have no interest in title or pride. He just wants to be the man in charge.

    The big brother is too tough and direct, I've got the feeling the blonde one is too whimsical and self-centered. Aryabelt has 'Lohengramm' written all over him. But so far there's no insight into what drives him. The fact that he's featured the most in the OP points to me that he might be the one member of his clan not dedicated to the plan.

    Van Gelik, if you dye his hair blue and give him a young foster child is Yang Wenli. Of this, there is no doubt. The guy is casual, peppy, clever as hell and doesn't take any of it too seriously. Fleet full of decoy ships, with massive suicide cannons waiting for when the enemy surrounds him. Now that is some barbeque fucking turkey bone in your cabbage war time fun. It's amazing that the last role I heard this guy's VA in was the dull, emotionless, boring old Saji in Blood+. Then again, he's also Keigo on Bleach... Also, for you guys who like that show I despise, he's the guy who believes in the you that believes that I believe in the guy in you who believes that I believe in you.

    The blond brother (Idris) is also Allelujah in 00 Gundam and a bunch of other roles. The big guy (Salisch) really hasn't been in much at all. The loli princess was Eureka in Eureka SeveN, Lala-Ru in NtHt, Nunners in Code Geass, and key roles in a bunch of other shows I've never heard of because, most likely, they're about lolis doing cute crap.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into hair color here? Guys with hair colors matching certain characters from LOGH, who also act like those characters, look, to me, to be slated for that same kind of path. That is fine by me.

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    Same art studio as LOGH, probably because the novels are written by the same guy (done at the time LOGH was adapted into an anime/OVA set). Pretty good of him to stick with the same guys after all these years.

    Only big question mark for me here is that the books, after seeing three installments from 1988-1991, have not seen a volume released since. That's a incredibly long time, and I'm here thinking that either the writer is going to change all that, or, ugh, just going to wing it towards the end. The latter could be quite ugly. I'm hoping that this anime was made because he had an idea for a complete project, not just financial incentive.
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    Tytania Episode 2 thoughts.

    well it wasn't an action packed affair by any means, but we got to learn a good bit about all of the characters.

    Fan Hyulick (ANBU changed his name) is really just a normal guy who happens to be a military genius. He doesn't seem to have any huge ambitions or driving force. His desire for fame and recognition, and his carelessness in trusting others (the whole 'reciept' signing was clearly a trap, but he walked right into it) has got to lead to some kind of eventual dowfall...

    So Ajman is just the latest in a long line of Tytania successors. His character makes sense in light of that, since he's so focused on maintaining and continuing his family's status. He seems to know that Jouslain doesn't care about that, and that's why he's always somewhat reluctant to acknowledge that he's the best of the four dukes to succeed him.

    I like that they actually all sat down and talked about the battle and what to do. Of course, Salisch and Idris just used the opportunity to slander Aryabhata and try to further their own status (and seem to think the opposite of what Ajman and Jouslain both know, that none of them would have been able to counter Fan Hyulik's trickery). Salisch is clearly all about the warfare, and Idris all about the political shadiness. Both of them are way too in love with the power and seem to enjoy and admire the violence to an unhealthy extent.

    Idris earns serious points in my book for openly saying 'We should get the guy on our side'. That's exactly what I'd try to do, especially now that it's clear that Euria will not reward his excellence the way he deserves.

    On the other side, Aryabtha and Jouslain are the cool headed ones, the most 'human' out of the bunch. Jouslain only reveals his true feelings to his servant girl, but Aryabtha wears it all on his sleeve... But Aryabtha seems to actually feel that the clan is a good prescence in the universe, and he'll surely work hard to make up for it.

    I was pretty entertained. It wasn't the most mind-blowing episode, and the pacing is making me think we're in for a very long series (any word on how many episodes are slated for this show?), but it was a decent second episode, although I think the history lesson could have been saved for another time...

    i can seriously see myself doing a blow-by-blow for this series...

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Fan Hyulick was an even funnier dude than the first ep made him look like. I think the "bum" description actually fits him. He didn't really seem like he valued the military as such but only as a means to advance and gain recognition. Now he's a rich bum, which might be more natural to him if we consider it something that allows him to seek interesting opportunities. Though he might also be a person who doesn't know how to be rich and will just waste all the money doing nothing and then find a new way of making more when forced to.

    I thought this defeat would give rise to more unrest instantly but so far it looks pretty stabile. Does that mean nothing will happen before the Tytania dukes start to fight each other? Or is it all still under the surface yet there already?

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    i think there will be enough people seeking Fan Hyulick's aid now, more than just the two Tytania brothers... chances are he'll get more recognition than he ever wanted...

    i'm thinking he's got to stay on the side of the rebellion (which, as Kraco pointed out, hasn't surfaced yet). The show would seem to lose a lot if it just became about a power struggle within a dominating clan. Also, maybe it was just the silly shoe-shiner girl being dumb, but it seemed that the Euria government was keeping the lid on his victory so as to not rub salt in Tytania's wounds. The broadcast was cut off before the end by Oppenheimer, and since Euria will probably join Tytania anyway, if the news can be suppressed, they might be able to even spin it like Fan Hyulick lost and fled.

    But I think the unrest is coming. There were certainly enough angry people from the subjugated planets in episode 1. Although, since Tytania could probably just outright destroy any one opposing planet without much repercussion (hell, it'd probably fit right in with their public image), I'm going to guess it'll be a radical group not based on any one planet.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    The ED keeps showing that one (fortunately hot) chick in Fan's company. Maybe she will recruit Fan to be a commander in a rebellion movement operating on multiple planets. She looked like a rebel with such casual clothing. Considering this one battle Fan could be an ideal rebel commander: Able to utilize limited resources in a surpring manner producing real results, and not taking himself too seriously.

    Still, whoever she is, I hope she will soon appear in the actual series. I'm far too accustomed to hot women in anime to want to watch a whole show without some in good roles. Though I'm not complaining if all captains and commanders remain men as it somehow fits this kind of old school aristocratic space opera.

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    Well out of four Dukes; Aryabhata seems to be most appropriate to lead Tytania. Salisch and Idris are too caught in past Tytania as it went establishing itself (by massacring people labeled as rebels), while Jouslain is neither in past or have any vision for future. Only Aryabhata has any chance to develop himself into strong leader while other have too strong of character to change themselves.


    PS Tytania deserves to be in Series En Fuego: sub-forum as it has much to reflect on each episode.


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    i think the hot chick Kraco mentions is in the next episode. There's a shot of some pretty nice hips bumping someone sitting at a bar (Fan Hyulick), and the outfit seems to match hers. Besides, he can't roll around as a bum for long. Someone's got to get him invested long-term in one side of this conflict.

    I completely disagree that Aryabtha should take over instead of Jouslain. Part of this is, I think, because even though all of the Dukes have their flaws, all of them have strong points that the others don't. Idris and Salisch clearly don't respect Aryabtha, but we've yet to see them express anything against Jouslain. Quite simply, if their ambition can be quelled enough to not make them hotly jealous of him, Jouslain could use Salisch, Idris and Aryabtha as excellent compliments. I don't think Idris or Salisch would so gladly do things for Aryabtha.

    Of course, if you're asking: "Who should be the head of the most powerful faction in the universe?" it's a little bit different than asking "Who should be the head of the Tytania family?" Jouslain seems to be the type who would put the family second and the well-being of the universe first, while Idris, Salisch and probably Aryabtha would keep the family as the first priority. Ajman seems to sense this about Jouslain, even though he probably feels that he's the most talented and balanced leader of the four, and, as a man dedicated to the family's excellence, he has reservations about Jouslain.

    And, yeah, get more people to watch it if you want it to go En Fuego!

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Jouslain's quite a mystery. It seems like it's gonna be like a Toward the Terra-esque showdown of enemies, with maybe Jouslain versus Fan Hyulick at the end of it all.

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    This show has more than earned a spot in the series en fuego in terms of quality. Maybe putting it there would get more people to watch it, justifying the act of putting it there in the first place even if the order is reversed.
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    Another omelette:

    Episode 3 - ANBU




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    Fan continues to be a funny fellow. Though he's even more a bum than I anticipated. Maybe he does have some aspirations of his own, but he's certainly keeping them deep under the surface and playing a very careless and free-spirited role. In any case the most interesting personalities seem to lie in the opposing faction, not in the Tytania camp. This feels like a long series based on how calmly and slowly things developed.

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    Really liked episode 3...

    If this show was made by Sunrise and whored out to the masses, there'd by Salisch x Alyses doujins hitting the market TODAY. Actually, Alyses was a pretty interesting character, and even though it's clear he wants his brother to approve of him, he's so sick and tired of his post and his brother's disrespect that he'll just have Fan Hyulick killed instead of captured.

    The "he'll remain a boy forever" part was creepy. That character came and went rather quickly, but it makes me wonder if this show will address genetic engineering and all the bag of mixed morality that comes with it. It was discussed rather well in some shows (Gundam SEED, actually being one of them) but it was noticeably absent from the writer's LOGH series.

    Last note on Alyses. Thought it was interesting that the narration so casually mentioned how his planet was a very peaceful and stable place. Makes you think he's a pretty decent ruler. but clearly his pride and scorned spirit are his driving forces, as his conversation with Fan Hyulick revealed.

    Really interesting part of thsi episode was involving Idris' promotion. Salisch clearly has expressed his sentiments, and basically kicked my theories of them being on the same team to the curb. Idirs' is clearly going to go about doing things with a nasty and vicious manner, and I'm pretty sure that'll stir up plenty of sympathy for the rebellion.

    Damn, my prediction of the rebels being not based on any one planet was slightly off... But I did hit the nail on the head that so far nobody with a planet to lose has been strong enough to stand up to Tytania, only guys who lost theirs...

    Oh, and yeah, Fan Hyulick is a funny guy, isn't he? The more I see, the more I like. Seems the writer did a very good job afterall of creating new characters instead of just making this LOGH 2.0

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Episode 4 - ANBU

    Looks like Aero is dropping Tytania (Not like it really matters, since they only did episode 1). Thank god we have ANBU.

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    There so much laughter when Miranda is present; knocking out a police squad and caring man on her shoulder and to top it is that she is princess. No wonder her people were destroyed if her royal family acted similar to her.


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    Yes, you could imagine they made enemies out of Tytania fast by acting so rashly and brashly.

    I liked how Fan acted at the very end, when he was holding his wallet, alone in the room. There's no way he would be already that attached to Lira, which made the mock act of really missing her much funnier. It really fits his happy-go-lucky wanderer's nature.

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    damnit, and i can't watch it until later tonight or tomorrow... what a bunch of shit...

    more hot girl? more andro governors? Viva La Resistance!

    loving it!

    Big old Zalisch (Salisch?) getting poo-poo'd by his tranny brother was fun, and then seeing the huge boar get told off by his mom. Good stuff. I like that woman, even if she's a coincieted twat. Love how she fawns on Alses, shows some good insight into the likely roots of the two brothers' relationship.

    Things got real fast real quick with Lira, De Bohr and Fan. I was sure the scene with Lira coming into Fan's room and trying to seduce him was going to be a dream sequence, but it was even more interesting to learn that Lira really will stop at nothing in her determination. Seldom do you see "strong" female characters so willingly use their sexuality as a tool (at least in anime...), since it's normall looked down on. Also, hell, did Lira accidentally say that the person she's lovers with is the Casabianca princess?

    Old woman doing the dirty betrayal work. Beats the standard 'kind old loyal grandma' archetype any day, in my book...

    Miranda. Wow. 'butch' has a new name. Like her style alot more than Lira's, strong arming people and putting them in a spot where they don't have to agree with crazy ideas of revolution and reviving backwater dynasties, but just a compromise of interests. With the mute captain and the corrupt informant on board, the Alliance... er.... whoever they are, looks to be ten times as colorful as the Empire.

    thought it was kind of funny. When the troops kick in the rebel hideout's doors, the guy is sitting in a wooden chair, at a wooden table in a house that has only two post 1900 items, running water and a toaster. You can fly shit through space and shoot lasers, but you can still only prepare two pieces of toast at a time... LOL This author usually does these kinds of things, setting stuff in a 'future' that, aside from a few crazy advanced elements (like apparently being able to terraform any planet anywhere), people are still living in 1975 Kansas City. Also, the 'Wanted' Poster for Fan Hyuclik is right out of the wild west.
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