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    I do believe you guys are simply incapable of understanding me. First off all I never said Naruto was incapable of improving his chakra control skills. In fact during his training Jiraiya mentioned that he taught him to walk on water and made him use the balloons and the rubber ball just so Naruto could get to the level of chakra control necessary for him to use rasengan. Uchiha Barles however kept mentioning how you needed exceptional chakra control to use rasengan which is true and I said Naruto managed to skirt that by using the shadow clones. So even though he doesn't have exceptional chakra control he can still use the technique because he has the extra hands.

    And again with the original technique thing you guys don't understand what I mean. Yuki used the perfect example of what Sasuke did after learning chidori. After learning chidori he managed to take what he learned from that technique and created new techniques that were not only better suited to him but techniques that the creator of chidori himself is probably not even capable of. You guys seem to think I mean Kakashi taught Sasuke chidori so anything Sasuke does with it is not going to match up to Kakashi's technique and thats not what I meant at all. Sasuke took the technique and made it his, just like Archangel mentioned Naruto's oodama rasengan and fuuton rasengan. If you create the technique yourself it will be more powerful than something you simply learned or copied so while Naruto's oodama rasengan and fuuton rasengan are undoubtedly more powerful than the fourth's original rasengan. I would think the fourth would be better at rasengan that Naruto is simply because he created the technique therefore it would be most suited to him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles
    So yeah, burst chakra output would matter in creating the rasengan
    Like I said that only makes a difference if you are able to fit that excess chakra into the rasengan and to do that you have to have exceptional chakra control, and Naruto is said to have no talent for it. Minato on the other hand was said to be exceptionally talented, the fact that he created the technique is proof enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukimura
    I agree with your assessment on the Rasengan however, the highest compression ratio and rotational speed is going to have the highest destructive power. Still, I think the fact that Naruto uses two separate minds to create his Rasengan raises the possibility that his could be more powerful than a single mind Rasengan in the same way that a dual core processor has better performance than a single core processor when computing two unrelated things. No matter how good one's chakra control is, outputting a steady stream of chakra and rotating that chakra both compete for mental resources, thus doing both at once would be less efficient then being able to do them in parallel on two different platforms.
    What you seem to be missing is its not two different minds. What made the rasengan an A rank tehcnique was the degree of chakra control neccessary to use it. Creating the rasengan involves three processes. Releasing the chakra, compressing the chakra and rotating the chakra. Naruto couldn't do all of that with one hand so using a clone and a total of three hands he split the work up. So using the clone doesn't improve on Naruto's basic skills at all it just splits the tasks up so the work load is something he is capable of. It doesn't compare to the fourth who was able to do all of that with just one hand. So in this case it isn't that the dual core is more efficient than the single core, its that Naruto's processor was defective so he needed a dual core to do what Minato could do with a single core.


    Do you guys understand what I mean or should I not even bother?
    Last edited by Abdula; Thu, 10-16-2008 at 03:54 PM.
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