Naruto Chapter 420

[Death BOO Z]

All those argument could mean something at some point of time, but we're at chapter 420.
Kakashi (whom, by chapter 80, has already admitted his relative weakness against Orochimaru), is not going to do shit to Payne.

Jiraya was probably much stronger than Kakashi (Kakashi shit his pants against Orochimaru, Jiraya bitch slapped Orochimaru), and he barely grazed Payne. Kakashi is seriously outclassed here.

I don't think there's a single ninja at the village who can currently fight against Payne, not Tsunade, not Yamato, not Hyuuga, not anbu. Payne has one weakness (well, two, if we consider what Jiraya said), and that's Qunan. always go after the girl.

the moment Payne finds out about Naruto, he'll stop the attack and go ambush Naruto.
then the world will implode from plot twisting, as there is no chance in hell that Naruto can beat Payne

anyways, not that Kakashi is weak or something, he's just out of his league here.

[Uchiha Barles]

I'm not going to make judgements on the current strength of characters based on their past strength because their progressions occur at different rates and are non linear, probably, for some. What I will say is this. The Uchiha and the Senju had massive numbers of battles against each other. By the time the first fought Madara, he probably had a good deal of information concerning the Sharingan.

Right now, we don't know what the rinnegan does. We don't know if it nullifies jutsu, we don't know if it freezes time, we don't know if it dulls the senses, we don't know if it paralyses the opponent, we've know clue. Kakashi has no clue. If he had some understanding of the powers of the Rinnegan, then maybe he would stand a chance, if the powers lent themselves to being defeated by something Kakashi can pull off. Kakashi would have to pull what that spider guy pulled against neiji back in the Chasing Sasukamy arc (that fight was pure bullshit btw). That's to say, figure out what the powers of the Rinnegan are. The thing is, the Byakugan didn't have any crazy tricks that messed with the opponents perception of reality. Right now, it seems that the Rinnegan might. How many times does Pain HAVE to use these abilities before he takes out Kakashi? I have a feeling, he could've killed him already.

Kakashi can't really win this with no info. He's gonna spend another month in the hospital, and this time, it's not going to be because he "went past his limit". It's going to be because someone came to save his behind from a fatal asskicking. Unless Kishimoto pulls a fast one on us and KILLS HIM! Can you imagine? Saving Naruto's academy teacher just to take out Kakashi...I'd lol forever.

[LaZie]

Or maybe Kakashi and Gai will team up and fight one of Pain's bodies.