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    Did anyone watch UFC 115? Some great fights. And Rich Franklin. Not much to say other then, what a badass! Was hoping he would win. I thought he would be the underdog and have more trouble the Chuck would have but he did great. Have always liked Rich the most of the 3 dominating Champs of their time (Rich, Chuck and Matt Hughes). I have always liked Chuck but never really felt that epicness i felt from Rich. So I'm real happy with the outcome. And with a broken arm no less.

    And Mirko winning by submission. didn't really see that coming. Thought it would end by a Knockout from either side. Was disappointed with Pat Barry though. He took so much pride in talking about his devastating kicks (specially the legkicks). And then he just threw it a couple of times then started brawling. I think CroCop would have lost if he just kept up the legkicks to stiffen him up and then later get some devastating kicks to the head and midsection. And in the break to the third round Pat's corner told him to not use the legkicks and just to try and knock him out with strikes. WTF? Also i can't believe that Pat didn't dive on CroCop when he knocked him on his ass in the first round. TWICE! Mirko said himself after the fight that he was hurt the second time. Pat lost this because of his own stupidity. Well hopefully Mirko will get some momentum from this so he dares get more aggressive. I think he has been way to passive in his previous UFC fights and he hesitates to much with those legs that made him dominate in Pride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwisT View Post
    He took so much pride in talking about his devastating kicks (specially the legkicks). And then he just threw it a couple of times then started brawling.
    Saw a picture taken from his twitter showing he had a broken hand and a broken foot... so that might explain the lack of kicks. Still, there's no real excuse for not attacking after that punch that messed up Cro Cop's eye, even if it did cause him to break his hand.

    Still an entertaining card. Some horrible calls by the refs on some unimportant fights, though I really couldn't care less about those guys.

    Chuck getting KTFO'd yet again made me sad. I still remember when Rashad KOed him and it was a huge surprise and big deal (by that time nobody really messed up chuck too bad, even Rampage didn't put him completely out), but now seeing Chuck get KTFO'd is pretty commonplace. When someone like Franklin knocks you out with a weak counter with his one good arm, you know it's time to call it quits.

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    I went and saw 115 in the theater since my wife was gone the whole day... only about 30 people were there. It was pretty cool though. $21 and HD on a huge movie screen beats sitting at home and paying $55 for it to be in HD. The card was really good though. All of the fights were pretty good.

    This month is crazy MMA wise. There is a major strikeforce card on wednesday headlined by Babalu vs Robbie Lawler, Bellator finals on thursday, UFC TUF finale on saturday, Sengoku has a saturday event too I think, wec on sunday. Then next saturday is Fedor vs Werdum, and the saturday after that is Lesnar vs Carwin / Wanerlei Silva vs Akiyama!

    So many events going on this month, it's bananas.

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    So who saw Fedor vs Werdum. Can't believe he got caught in that choke trying to finish .

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    I knew he was gonna lose at some point in time, I just didn't expect it to be against Fabricio Werdum, or to lose that quickly against a triangle choke he got himself caught in because he kept pushing his luck. I and probably 90% of MMA watchers were expecting Fedor to win when he floored him with his starting combo.
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    I can't believe he tapped to a choke

    I think fedor beats werdum 9/10 times though.

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    I contend Fedor threw the match on purpose. Odds were something like 600:1. With all the money he's losing because of the UFC's hardball tactics on his sponsors, he was hurting for a big payday. So if his people bet $1 million on Werdum, they won $600 million when Fedor lost.


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    600:1 favorite? lol, no

    Fedor was -650 and Wedum +400, meaning bet 1 on Werdum, win 4.

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    I seriously doubt the odds were that close. Fedor was fully expected to destroy Werdum in under 1 minute. 600:1 sounds more like it.


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    600 to 1? Are you serious? There has never been a line that high in any sporting event and there never will be. -650 translates to a predicted victory of approx 85%, which is correct for this fight. Just google "fedor werdum odds" and although there are no lines listed on the sportsbook sites anymore you can see where various sites have quoted them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FairyGirl View Post
    600 to 1? Are you serious? There has never been a line that high in any sporting event and there never will be. -650 translates to a predicted victory of approx 85%, which is correct for this fight. Just google "fedor werdum odds" and although there are no lines listed on the sportsbook sites anymore you can see where various sites have quoted them.
    Cyborg vs Finney was 2500:1, and that was not as sure a thing as Fedor vs Werdum was supposed to have been.


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    No, Cyborg was not a 2500 to 1 favorite, she was 20/25 to 1 (depending on the site). Cyborg -2000 / Finney +1000. This means if you bet $100 on Cyborg you win $5 and $100 on Finney you win $1000. I think you are just confused on how these odds work O_O

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    Nah, Inside MMA said the line was 2500:1 in favor of Cyborg. Basically there was little chance of winning any money by betting on Cyborg, same as with Fedor.


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    Whoever said they were 600-1 and 2500-1 were either extremely exaggerating or just wrong...

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    Girls should stick to cooking and cleaning, and leave gambling and fighting to us men.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Strikeforce released Jake Shields. The UFC still hasn't announced his signing though. He wants to fight Anderson Silva though.

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    I don't think he deserves an immediate title shot, but then I don't think Chael Sonnen deserves one either. Let Shields fight Belfort or Maia for his first fight.


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    Carwin imploded.

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    He gassed. So much was made of his ability to end fights early. Evidently it was a large part of his gameplan due to necessity as much as ability. He owned Lesnar in the first round, it was beautiful to see.


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    If only he had taken home the belt. He got mounted almost instantly and Lesnar did a sick transition into that choke. I love striking as much as anyone but that level of grappling is something to be awed.

    I'll get my fix for standup next event with my boy Silva taking out another challenger.

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