I honestly thought when Mir beat Lesnar it was out of almost pure luck. He was getting dominated all match.
I honestly thought when Mir beat Lesnar it was out of almost pure luck. He was getting dominated all match.
Silvia at least has the size to not be completely physically dominated by Lesnar, and the skill to possibly beat him, but he'd probably lose anyway.
I don't think Lesnar proved anything concerning his stamina, as he was getting winded after a round and a half against Couture. He easily lasted three rounds against Herring but he was dominating the entire fight which takes a lot less energy.
To me all it would take to beat Lesnar is comparable size with typical skills of a top contender. Obviously Couture is a much more skilled fighter, but there was no way he could make up for the 60 lb weight advantage.
Aleksander Emelianenko has the size to deal with Lesnar, though I'm not sure of his skill level. Even though Fedor has the skill to beat him, the size difference would be a problem like it was for Couture.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I meant Fedor not Aleksander. I so wish he could go to UFC so we could see him against people like Lesnar and Couture. He have already faced Nogueira and Crocop in Pride so even though that would be exciting it wouldn't be anything we haven't already seen.
We saw how fast Fedor took care of Tim Silva in Affliction.
At 6ft 230 I wonder how Fedor would do with the huge size difference. He has the skill to beat Lesnar, but so did Couture. Of course, Couture had age against him too, and I wouldn't compare Couture's 16-9 record to Fedor with his 28-1 record.
I've never been that impressed with Sylvia. He doesn't use his size to his advantage enough, and has lost 3 of his last 4 fights. I don't think beating Sylvia is a good gauge of how a fighter would fare against Lesnar.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I just got back from watching UFC 92 at the hot wings bar. All of my favorites lost in the headline matches, including Silva, Nogueira, and Griffin. For once it was a bad night to be a Brazilian fighter. Had a great time hanging out with the guys and girls though and great food and drink.
At least Okami won, though they didn't broadcast the fight.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
i was surprised that wanderlei got knocked out.. i'd found the last 2 jackson / silva fights on google video and was really excited to see them fight. idk which i'd have picked for fight of the night. the Mir fight would have been ok if noguera put up a fight, and i had a bad feeling about the griffin / evans fight from the beginning because evans was just smiling so much like he was already the champ.
i think 93 is free on spike tv... then 94
It was a lucky wild punch that knocked out Wanderlei, so it wasn't really payback for the two beatings he gave Rampage before. I also watched the two previous fights on youtube before seeing this latest one.
Nogueira's standup was touted as being far superior to Mir's, so it was shocking to see Mir fight in standup and win. Completely unsatisfying to see two top BJJ/grappling fighters not work the ground at all. I don't like Mir's chances in a rematch with Lesnar, Lesnar has too much incentive and drive to win. There will be no fluke ankle locks next time.
I feel bad for Griffin but he didn't strike me as a dominant champion. I don't see Evans lasting as champ either, once guys like Henderson and Franklin or even Rampage make their way up the 205 ladder to challenge for the belt.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
are you going to watch the affliction event on the 24th of january?
i want to see the fedor / arlovski fight. not sure if i'm ordering it or not yet... depends.
I watched UFC 91 via live internet stream because I didn't want to pay just to see brock lesnar fight couture... i didn't really watch any of the other matches, i was just waiting for the main event.
Where I'm based most of the year we get the fights for free, so I get to watch them all, except it starts at 5AM on Sunday morning.
I will definitely see Affliction on Jan 24 unless the feed is down, which happens at times. I don't look forward to seeing Arlovski destroyed by Fedor, but that's the nature of their sport.
You could find a sports bar that has the fight if you don't want to pay per view. Buffalo Wild Wings in Houston is a great place to eat and watch the events.
You missed out, UFC 91 was great. The main event was one of the least interesting fights from a technical standpoint.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Did anyone see Affliction: Day of Reckoning?
I was disappointed in some of the fights because they were so short, but they included spectacular knockouts and decisive victories. I actually doubted Fedor's supremacy for the first 3 minutes of the title fight, then he KO'd Arlovski and he seems unbeatable again. I wonder though how Fedor will beat Barnett if Barnett sits on top of Fedor like he did with Yvel.
Great set of fights. Not sure it was worth the PPV cost for those who shelled out $45.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I just watched it. Although i was not impressed with the other fights, Fedor and Andrei made they watch all worth it. To see someone actually give Fedor that much problem was a big surprise. And if anyone has shown potential to beat him, it's Andrei. Would be cool if they could have a rematch futher down the line.
If i would have payed to see that i would have felt cheated.
Can someone tell me where I can see the Arlovski vs. Fedor fight? I can't find it on youtube, and I missed it on sopcast.
That's the thing, we all thought Fedor was in trouble early but that's his M.O., he feels out his opponent looking for a weakness before unloading on him. He might take some lumps in the process, but he's not 29-1 (1 disputed loss) for nothing. I thought some of the other fights were pretty good, and Belfort KO'ing Lindland was wicked.Originally Posted by TwisT
Go to sherdog.com and check the forums. One guy has a gif of the last 5 seconds of the fight.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
kfight.net has video's.
so... i tuned in (to kfight) and got on about 5 minutes before fedor / arlovski.
i had it zoomed full screen, and the resolution was a little bad and for a minute i thought arlovski had somehow kneed himself in the head or something lol... until i saw the replay.
http://www.kfight.net/Funny-Stuff/Gi...out-Tim-Sylvia
This made me LOL... check it out.
he should have had more patience... i was really going for arlovski but that just really shows me that fedor is a serious bad ass.
Man...that Fedor vs. Arlovski fight was something else. He had Fedor trumped in the stand up...sort of. That's why Fedor is so damned dangerous. Not only is his training actually quite good, he makes his opponents PAY for their mistakes. Fedor is one of those fighters doesn't get angry, or hyped up. He's just plain calculating. He keeps his eyes open and his brain is on overdrive crunching data as the fight progresses. That flying knee came WAAAAAAAAY too early against Fedor, if it should've come at all.
A lot of people are talking about how Fedor actually got lucky on that fight...I guess he did get lucky that Arlovski made that mistake. Otherwise, if he couldn't figure an answer to Arlovski's magnificent pugilism, he'd have had to take the fight to the ground and win by submission...people annoy me.
Arlovski's one of my favorite fighters, but Fedor is too at this point. REMATCH!
Yeah I get tired of hearing people say he got lucky. It's not luck, it's skill. Everyone knows Arlovski is the better boxer than Fedor, but he's clearly not the better fighter. If Arlovski had continued dominating in standup, Fedor would have taken it to the ground and beaten him to death or submitted him.
Arlovski's chances of a rematch are good only because of the limited number of contenders in the Affliction/M-1 roster. One or two more wins for Arlovski against guys like Sylvia, Yvel, Buentello, and Barnett, and after Fedor beats a couple more guys, Arlovski could be the top contender again. That's unless Affliction adds to their stable of heavyweights, which would be smart to ride the Fedor wagon, but also dumb because they're lacking in talent in the other weight classes.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
http://www.kfight.net/News/Afflictio...ghters-Payouts
I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate or not for the afflication payouts...
if arlovski really got $1,500,000 to fight fedor and fedor only got $300,000... it made me wonder if they're having to pay people to fight fedor. The Tim sylvia payout against fedor was similar, sylvia got tons of money to get his ass beat in 30 seconds, and fedor only got a portion of that amount. But, maybe the dollar is really strong in russia !
Wow that's pretty amazing if it's true. But you have to keep in mind that Fedor's drawing power in the US might not be as strong as Arlovski's, who has exposure from his UFC days. A relative unknown in the US market can't command the salary of big names. Also, maybe Fedor doesn't care about the money, he just wants to kick some ass.
edit: check around, there are rumors that Fedor received a bonus of more than $1million.
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“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Just finished watching GSP vs Penn 2, pretty amazing card of fights. GSP owned Penn, Machida owned T. Silva, Guida beat Diaz, Fitch beat Gono, Jones beat Bonnar, Parisian beat Kim.
The Korean disappointed, which teaches me for having any faith in one of those people. He won the first round, then proceeded to hug and do nothing through the 2nd and 3rd on his way to a decision loss, his first career loss. Pretty pathetic to see.
GSP owned Penn. Not much more to say about that. They brought Thiago Alves into the ring after the fight to talk about GSP vs Alves; you could see fear in his eyes.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
i saw it too. the first couple fights weren't very entertaining. the machida fight was good though, he looked like the smaller, less powerful fighter but he had a few near-knockouts before he actually KO'd him, 4:59 1st round! I was actually confusing thiago alves w\ thiago silva until the fight came on...
and yes, i'm glad penn got his ass handed to him since he talked so much smack leading to the fight. I don't think kenny florian can beat him but who knows.
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