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    I was disappointed that the nick diaz / jay hieron fight didn't happen.

    nick is to blame for not preparing in case of a drug test, but the NSAC is to blame for having MJ as a banned substance when nick has a prescription !

    Mousasi took out babalu really fast, that surprised me a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itadakimasu
    I was disappointed that the nick diaz / jay hieron fight didn't happen.

    nick is to blame for not preparing in case of a drug test, but the NSAC is to blame for having MJ as a banned substance when nick has a prescription !

    Mousasi took out babalu really fast, that surprised me a little.
    First Barnett, now Diaz. These guys need to get their acts together or they'll shut down some more promotions and only UFC will be left.

    Diaz is a known pothead. He's like Ricky Williams, he'd rather get high than anything else in life. He has the skills to be a top fighter if he'd take his craft seriously.

    I wasn't surprised, Mousasi is supposed to be the next big thing at LHW and Babalu never impressed me that much. I'd love to see Mousasi fight Shogun or Machida. Word is the UFC picked up Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, who would have been a great fight for Mousasi in SF. SF needs to get some top LHWs for Mousasi's next 2 fights before his contract with them is completed.


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    Did anyone see UFC 102? Amazing night of fights!!! A couple of the fights were lackluster like Vera/Soszynski, but the Marquardt/Maia and Duffee/Hague fights each lasted less than 30 seconds. I don't know if they showed the Gonzaga/Tuscherer fight since I left after Couture/Nogueira.

    The main even was an awesome fight. Nogueira shows he's still got it. Now he needs a rematch with Mir to show fans their last fight was a fluke because he was recovering from the staph infection. He'd destroy Mir if they fought again.


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    That was a great UFC card. Some quick KO's. I can't believe Marquart KO'd Maia so fast... I was ready for an all out war, but good for nate.

    Nogs boxing is great... I can't believe he let go of that choke he had randy in, and also can't believe randy held on so long, and jumped up so fast when nog let up on the choke. I still think Brock is too dominant though... idk... That Duffee guy is pretty big, he's a solid 250lbs, i'm not sure how big carwin is off the top of my head.

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    I went to ufc 103 last night. My wife was a trooper and was pretty into it and stuck out the 6+ hours of fights and intermissions!

    They said there were 17,500 people there. our seats were decent for being on the top level. We were 2nd row on the top section ($100 per ticket) would be cool to be able to afford $350 seats but that's just alot of money.

    Could have used binoculars to be able to see all the fighters / celebrities in attendance. You could pick out Tito Ortiz because of his big head... and dana white because he's bald ^^ and also jenna jameson because she was with Tito.

    Most of the fights were 1st round finishes, there was a cool submission and a couple good knock outs. Mirko cro cop had the loudest reception of the night but his fight ended strangely as he "verbally submitted" everybody was like... WTF!?

    None of the fights that went the distance were amazing or anything. There were 13 fights all together though and all in all it was a good time.

    I think it opened me up to the idea of flying out to other UFC events that have amazing cards.

    Tons of drunken obnoxious people though. There were a few fights in the crowd, and one involved this 250 or so lb dude like... pushing this guy and falling on him down the stairs, like at least 6-7 rows.... kinda good that both guys got up ok because you could easily die w\ a huge guy landing on you on cement steps.

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    Oh man, that sounds like a fun time. It's great you got to attend the show, and even better that your wife didn't make it a crappy time. I guess you'll have to suck it up and do something she enjoys next? I'd have loved to have made the drive from Austin but oh well.

    Here in Austin it was almost impossible to see the show at a sports bar because they were showing the Texas/Tech game and it lasted until 10:30. I'd imagine some even showed the Mayweather/Marquez fight rather than the UFC show.

    The prelim fights on Spike were all really entertaining.


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    how many fights did they show on spike? they were only slated to do 2 and they both ended pretty fast.

    I'm not much into boxing but since HBO is showing the marquez / mayweather fight on saturday I'll watch it.

    I didn't really take into account college football. That's some tough ppv competition.

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    They showed 4 fights, all very exciting matchups of no-name fighters.

    I'm not into college football, but Austin is huge for it, probably only because Texas is ranked in the top 3 right now.


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    Strikeforce news :

    Last week they annonced that Fedor vs Brett Rogers will be on November 7th live on CBS. Cung Le relinquished his championship belt, and Jake Shields and Jayson "mayhem" Miller will fight for that belt on the same card ( i think ) They said there would be 4 fights all together so I'm wondering who else is going to fight.

    I'm thinking they may put Cyborg on the card too since it's on CBS, and get some exposure to people who maybe don't have cable or know anything about MMA.

    I'm still hoping that they come through w\ the Nick Diaz vs Jay Hieron fight that fell apart back in June.

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    In a baffling move, SF signed 47 year old Hershel Walker to a fight contract. Maybe they'll add Mousasi vs Walker to the November card. That would be a one sided demolition.

    Also, Carano should be on the card if it's going to be on CBS. She's still the hottest face in MMA.


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    Anyone watch Kimbo Slice vs Roy Nelson on TUF today? Man the fight was such a disappointment, even on Roy Nelson's performance. All Roy did was basically sat on Kimbo Slice all day long with his fat ass and throwing the weakest punches in the world on Kimbo's head. If Kimbo even had the slightest skill in jitsu and was able to keep the fight standing I think Kimbo woulda had a chance.

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    Yeah is was a complete disappointment. For all Roy's talk and his confidence his performance was really underwhelming. I was more impressed by Kimbo's performance even though he lost, than Roy's victory. Kimbo showed some skill, his stand was what you would expect, he seems to have good take-down defense, used the cage well and he didn't do a bad job from the bottom either. In fact one my friends I was watching it with commented that Kimbo was the only guy he has seen on TUF that actually used strikes from the bottom. With a good camp behind him, Kimbo could actually be the real deal.

    Roy on the other hand was the quintessence of lay and pray, especially considering that he was utilizing the crucifix position. Kimbo made the critical mistake of throwing a knee when Roy was attempting to take him down and once Roy got him down he didn't have the skill to get back up. Though he certainly tried his best, more so than his teammates did in their fights, and he almost succeeded a few times too. He tried to simply power out a couple of times but I don'tt care how strong you are, when you're flat on your back there is no way you are going to lift a 260 lb guy off of you, especially when your face is being smothered by belly fat. That was hard to watch

    As much as Roy pissed me off I guess I shouldn't criticize him too much, his strategy was sound and more importantly it was successful, and he showed that he has some experience under his belt but I really don't care about that. As he himself said if that were on a pay per view card he would've collected a nice check but that's not what The Ultimate Fighter is about. It's supposed to be about showing how much "heart" you have, or as they say "how much you want it" and proving that you're a better fighter than your opponent. That is what he said he was going to do, prove that he was better than Kimbo and he didn't. His celebration after his victory was also kinda pathetic, what did he call it " The whopper with cheese." Yeah it was definitely cheesy.
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    Yeah it was a very underwhelming fight overall. Neither guy was impressive.

    I think you're giving too much credit to Kimbo though. His ground game is nonexistent, and by his own admission, he'd do a lot better if he actually spent any time training it. He's a one-dimensional puncher, like Houston Alexander or Drew McFedries. If these guys ever developed their wrestling and BJJ, they'd be monsters. Instead they're cellar dwellers in their divisions.

    That was far from lay and pray by Nelson. Putting someone in the crucifix position is excellent ground work, not laying on them. If Nelson wasn't such a fatass, he'd have moved into proper crucifix position to isolate Kimbo's head and done some real damage.

    Everyone is looking to knock off Kimbo Slice. Nelson did so in unimpressive fashion, but he did win against a big name, so he deserved a little celebrating. Now he needs to lose that gut and he could be more than just a former IFL champ.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    I think you're giving too much credit to Kimbo though. His ground game is nonexistent, and by his own admission, he'd do a lot better if he actually spent any time training it. He's a one-dimensional puncher, like Houston Alexander or Drew McFedries. If these guys ever developed their wrestling and BJJ, they'd be monsters. Instead they're cellar dwellers in their divisions.
    That is true but that fight really annoyed me and I like Kimbo. Yeah he is still a one dimensional fighter but that kinda is why he is on the show in the first place isn't it. If Kimbo manages to get a ground game or he at least learns enough to be able to get off his back when he gets taken down then he'll be an okay fighter, not spectacular but no one is expecting him to be the greatest fighter in UFC history.
    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    That was far from lay and pray by Nelson. Putting someone in the crucifix position is excellent ground work, not laying on them. If Nelson wasn't such a fatass, he'd have moved into proper crucifix position to isolate Kimbo's head and done some real damage.
    Yeah when a guy punches you in the face and you get scared, take him down and lay on top of him until the ref stops the fight then yeah its lay and pray. He actually mounted Kimbo a couple times during the fight and made no attempt to posture up and strike instead he was content to smother him with his belly fat. You may not call it lay and pray but he really did nothing from the top and won the fight simply because Kimbo wasn't able to get back up.
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    Rumor has it that Kimbo is in Florida training with american top team. He slipped in an interview saying that he was preparing for a fight in december which is most likely the TUF finale.

    That fight did suck though... Kimbo just couldn't get out of that. Even though Roy wasn't really doing much if any damage, kimbo was just unable to defend himself.

    I wonder if they could have the discretion to stand the fight up at that point if the guy on top isn't actually trying to finish the fight ( by throwing weak punches) in the 2nd round though, kimbo shouldn't have thrown that knee that allowed him to be taken down. he should have kept jabbing and defended the take down at all cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    Yeah when a guy punches you in the face and you get scared, take him down and lay on top of him until the ref stops the fight then yeah its lay and pray. He actually mounted Kimbo a couple times during the fight and made no attempt to posture up and strike instead he was content to smother him with his belly fat. You may not call it lay and pray but he really did nothing from the top and won the fight simply because Kimbo wasn't able to get back up.
    Getting someone in the crucifix position is high level Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. It was Nelson's fault for not doing more damage with elbows, but no way is that lay and pray and no way should the ref stand that up. Getting someone in the crucifix position means they're getting TKO'd 99% of the time. I'm reading around that Nelson intentionally took it easy on Kimbo when he had top position on him. Lay and pray would have been if Nelson hadn't pinned both of Kimbo's arms in an attempt to open up his head to attack, which is exactly what the crucifix does.

    Nelson should have improved his position and unloaded some elbows and power punches, but from some other sources I've read that Kimbo's posse doesn't take kindly to anyone derailing their cash cow. There's a story that Kimbo brought a gun to the ATT training center to threaten a fighter who arm-barred him and wouldn't let it go, even though Kimbo would not tap. Threats were also reportedly made against Seth Petruzelli after he beat Kimbo and said he'd beat him again in the UFC once they were both signed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by itadakimasu
    Rumor has it that Kimbo is in Florida training with american top team. He slipped in an interview saying that he was preparing for a fight in december which is most likely the TUF finale.
    Yeah I've heard as much. Any idea as to who his opponent is going to be?
    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Getting someone in the crucifix position is high level Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. It was Nelson's fault for not doing more damage with elbows, but no way is that lay and pray and no way should the ref stand that up. Getting someone in the crucifix position means they're getting TKO'd 99% of the time. I'm reading around that Nelson intentionally took it easy on Kimbo when he had top position on him. Lay and pray would have been if Nelson hadn't pinned both of Kimbo's arms in an attempt to open up his head to attack, which is exactly what the crucifix does.
    Maybe I'll change my mind when I watch the fight again but I doubt it. Ordinarily getting your opponent into the crucifix position would be high level BJJ but it's not as if Roy did it to Frank Mir, it was Kimbo Slice the guy you yourself said has a nonexistent ground game. Roy didn't seem to be that skilled on the ground either he just had more knowledge and more experience and that made all the difference.

    Nelson should have improved his position and unloaded some elbows and power punches, but from some other sources I've read that Kimbo's posse doesn't take kindly to anyone derailing their cash cow. There's a story that Kimbo brought a gun to the ATT training center to threaten a fighter who arm-barred him and wouldn't let it go, even though Kimbo would not tap. Threats were also reportedly made against Seth Petruzelli after he beat Kimbo and said he'd beat him again in the UFC once they were both signed.
    I actually laughed out loud. That is hilarious, even more so if it's true.
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    104 was pretty good. Shogun definitely got robbed. I'm going to watch it again today or tomorrow. I was cheering for Machida but... damn. His whole mystique was crushed.

    Dana white has been quoted saying that Shogun gets an instant rematch. I'm thinking they can do it @ 108 maybe. Anderson Silva may not be cleared to fight after his elbow surgery.

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    Shogun wasn't robbed. Machida clearly won the fight.

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    I agree, it was no robbery, it was very close and easily arguable that Machida won or got the benefit of being champion.


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