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  1. Sun, 02-01-2009, 02:10 AM #41
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    Florian has improved a lot, and kind of has the Machida tactic of evasion and hit and run. Very effective style, if not very exciting. I think he'd do ok against Penn, but Penn will want to avenge his loss against GSP on the next guy he fights.

    Machida shows that tactical fighting and skill beats aggression and power. I wonder if the UFC will give him a title shot, since a lot of fans hate his style and he wouldn't be a very popular champ. It also shows how Thiago Silva's 13-1 record came mostly against lower-tier fighters. I wonder how Silva would do against Rampage or Wandy. It would be a slugfest.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  2. Wed, 02-04-2009, 11:10 AM #42
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    Have you seen the bj penn videos? He was talking about how he intended the GSP fight to be his last fight. Idk if he meant for good, or just UFC...

    And then his people are claiming GSP's corner put vaseline on his back and that effected bj's performance against him
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  3. Wed, 02-04-2009, 11:21 AM #43
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    Wow, haven't seen those videos. Where can I see them? That's pretty shocking to hear. I think it was a mistake to jump straight to 170 and fight the king of welterweights. He (and the UFC should have made him) should have fought his way up the 170 ranks to earn a shot at the title. That would have kept interest for him and his fans going, and he would have stood a better chance against GSP.

    I've heard plenty about the vaseline controversy. You can see on the PPV broadcast, between rounds 1 and 2, one of GSP's corner-men applies vaseline to GSP's face, then rubs his shoulders and then his upper back. It's hard to say how much vaseline was left on his hands after the face, and it was a very brief rub and he massaged GSP's temples and shoulders enough that there couldn't have been much left when he massaged his back. After round 3, you can see some ring officials in GSP's corner, and one of them uses a towel to wipe off GSP's back as he stands to start round 4. Not sure what to think, we'll see what the officials rule.

    I'm reading now that GSP could move to 185.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  4. Wed, 02-04-2009, 12:13 PM #44
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    Yeah, the vaseline thing was odd. It was nitpicking. GSP didn't even need the vaseline, Penn got rocked. But, White was right though. Illegal is Illegal.
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  5. Wed, 02-04-2009, 12:20 PM #45
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    In the 2nd round Penn did seem to have problems keeping GSP in his guard. He kept putting his legs up around GSP's shoulders and they kept sliding down to his lower back. That could have just been sweat though, or GSP's powerful back making it hard for Penn to clamp on.

    The thing is, if you use moisturizing lotion on your body, it dries and becomes invisible. As you sweat, it becomes moist again. Any fighter who moisturizes could have an advantage in the ring. They wouldn't need vaseline.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  6. Sat, 02-07-2009, 07:27 PM #46
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    gsp vs anderson silva... now that would be a real super fight.

    i think the vaseline thing is bs... it makes bj look like a punk who's trying to find an excuse for the ass beating he got.

    so, i just read this Dana White interview off ufc.com and apparently he's just got alot of hate for Affliction. He's like " i fucking hate those guys. I'll be fuckin surprised if they have another event, blah blah blah. I actually hope they have another event so they can keep losing money!

    Then there is a question about the ufc maybe getting some fighters like gina carano, allistair overeem, Fedor, Tito ortiz....

    Dana's answer is " Tito Ortiz is included in a list of great fighters? LOL
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  7. Thu, 02-12-2009, 02:14 PM #47
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    In case you don't follow MMA news, Strikeforce bought out part of Elite XC, including fighters like Nick Diaz, Robbie Lawler, Kimbo Slice, Gina Carano, and 30+ others. They're going to take over Elite XC's tv deal that they had w\ CBS and Showtime and will be having upwards of 14 shows annually starting w\ april 11th where they have Nick Diaz vs. Frank Shamrock, Josh Thomson championship fight opponent TBA, and a few other fights.
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  8. Thu, 02-12-2009, 08:22 PM #48
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    Kimbo's failure played a huge part in that I'd guess.
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  9. Thu, 02-12-2009, 11:27 PM #49
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    Nah, promotions fail all the time. They pay too much to fighters who don't draw the crowds the promotions need to stay even on the books.

    Glad to see the UFC won't be the only shows to look forward to. Affliction only does 2 shows a year, WEC is all small fighters without the big game atmosphere, and the UFC does maybe 1 or 2 a month. We need more fight action!


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  10. Fri, 02-20-2009, 11:38 AM #50
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    http://mmajunkie.com/news/14050/b-j-...-st-pierre.mma

    video released by bj-penn documenting vasoline-gate. After watching the video I'm kinda in denial cause I like gsp. I think the video makes his claims valid though. I'm wondering if they're going to schedule a rematch after each of them defends their titles ( assuming both of them win their next fights )
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  11. Fri, 02-20-2009, 12:25 PM #51
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    Yeah that video is very persuasive, but in truth it's a lot of conjecture and an argument built on circumstantial evidence. He cites quotes by several people that's offered as proof of guilt, like Dana White saying GSP is in trouble with the NSAC. I've also read that fighters like Matt Hughes and Penn are pricks who would accuse people of cheating to defend their inflated egos after a loss. I like GSP and would rather not think he cheated in any of his fights. I'd like to see GSP vs Penn 3 to settle the matter.

    Anyone excited for UFC 95? I'm not, but I'll watch it and hope Stevenson wins.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  12. Sun, 02-22-2009, 12:33 AM #52
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    Wow great card of fights. The first 5 or 6 fights they showed were all TKOs or beautiful submissions. The Brazilians owned before Marquardt's win over Gouveia.

    The most boring fight was the main event, in which Stevenson demonstrates again that he's no longer a contender in the lightweight rank. Let's hope this is the last time we have to see him bore us in a main card fight.
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    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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    I only saw the last 2 fights of UFC 96. I like Rampage but I'm not sure if he can last 5 rounds. If he does fight Rashad at UFC 98, he better come out with all he's got the first couple rounds, because I dont' think he can hang with Rashad in later rounds...

    That is if he takes the fight though, because most fighters take 4-6 months between fights to rest and train.
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  14. Mon, 03-09-2009, 10:46 AM #54
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    I feel bad for anyone who paid for UFC 96. Crappy card with no really interesting fights or fighters. Some wicked KOs but they were boring somehow. The main event was lackluster and didn't show any MMA skill.

    There's lots of heat on the refs because of 2 late stoppages, one where the guy got hurt kind of bad when the ref let it continue even after the initial beating. It was pretty tough to watch, but I don't blame the refs, they have a tough job.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  15. Mon, 03-09-2009, 11:23 AM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    The main event was lackluster and didn't show any MMA skill.
    That's why I think Rashad can beet jackson.. I like jackson but he's mostly a 1 dimensional fighter, and I don't think he can last 5 rounds.

    You should watch the post-fight press conference, it was pretty funny. Somebody asked Rampage about the low blow he took and his answer made me laugh... too bad they didn't pan over to get jardine's reaction to what he said.
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  16. Mon, 03-09-2009, 11:34 AM #56
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    I've seen Evans' fights where he gassed pretty early too, so hopefully he's improved his cardio since then. I like him over Rampage, though I don't particularly like either fighter. I'm rooting for Machida at LHW.

    I saw the whole thing, some funny stuff there. Rewatching the show right now, 3rd airing on AFN.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  17. Wed, 03-11-2009, 03:10 PM #57
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    http://mmajunkie.com/news/14232/tapo...o-accident.mma

    Founder of Tapout killed in auto accident, probably racing his ferrari against a porche
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  18. Mon, 03-16-2009, 10:45 PM #58
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    Man we were getting spoiled with an MMA event almost every two weeks back in December and January. Now it's 3 weeks between events and it sucks. At least there's 3 major events in April.

    Gotta buy some Pride videos and see some classic Fedor/Crocop/Overeem/Randleman/Sakuraba/Wanderlei action to keep my adrenaline pumping until then.


    “For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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  19. Fri, 04-10-2009, 11:40 AM #59
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    I *cough* downloaded a 75gb torrent of pridefc fights. they have some ridiculous fights.

    This weekend is loaded. I've been waiting for tomorrows Strikeforce event since they announced it a couple months ago. And of course, UFC is counter-programming it by replaying UFC 94 on spike at the same time, and they're also airing 3-4 eps of UFC Unleashed before UFC 94 comes on.

    Also, they're replaying Dream 8 from earlier this week on hdnet
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  20. Sat, 04-11-2009, 01:08 AM #60
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    Season 9 of The Ultimate Fighter started not long ago. 2 episodes out right now. Looks like there might be some interesting fighters among the bunch.
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