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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    He put the brake on himself.
    Unknowingly, yeah. He decided to save her, but I bet he never imagined she'd become his switch.

    I hope he never recovers from his brain damage. Not only does the situation make him more human, but also more balanced in terms of power. Come to think it, I wonder if he's demoted from lvl5 because of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    It was 10 - though I'm not sure of how significant this fact will be.
    Ten is hugely significant in the long run. If you've been following popular physics discussions in the last few years, that means that eventually, Kuroko could teleport something and change everything about it. The laws of physics that govern it (internal structure), velocity vectors (she already has that), maybe even someone's history and personality. She could literally shift to a different reality/timeline. She'd probably give herself an aneurysm doing so...but she could do it. For her little bout with Musujime, it won't mean much because she's still a level 4 (which for Kuroko means seems more like she's actually able to use her complex ability with any kind of proficiency), but it could mean something amazing later on. It could potentially put her up on the same levels as the most powerful magicians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Still, I'm satisfied Last Order is like this and not being all emo trying to think how to ever pay him back the huge favour. It should also be better for Accelerator this way (to have cheery Last Order around; I'm not talking about the brain damage) as I don't think he previously had any human contacts whatsoever aside from dealing with the scumbag scientists and their ilk.
    I wonder if Mikoto was like that when she was young. I too think it's good that she's so carefree. Accelerator was really the first friend Last Order ever met, and Last Order was far too persistent to be driven off. Last Order also knew a bit (and Accelerator certainly told her to try and get rid of her) of how many of her sisters he killed. Saving her made them even, and now she and her network are back saving him from being a semi-veggie.

    Not all the scientists were scumbags. The woman at least partially regretted her history and tried to make things better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I hope he never recovers from his brain damage. Not only does the situation make him more human, but also more balanced in terms of power. Come to think it, I wonder if he's demoted from lvl5 because of this.
    Me i wonder if he's closer to level 6 than ever before

    He basically got hooked up to a super computer, all the calculations he had to do by himself should now come much easier to him

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    Just a cheap guess, but my take on Kuroko's ability is that "touch" limitation. Or at least it might be one of the steps to overcome in order to go to level 5.
    An other point is that the other teleport user was extremely surprised Kuroko still had metal pins available. I'd have to rewatch the scene to know if it was just a mistake on her part, not counting right or missing that spot.
    It's impossible to know by counting them. I tried. I think I also did try last season, but we do not really know how many there are.
    It's just that maybe for those pins Kuroko does not need touching to teleport them in the holsters... that would mean she gets more and more control on her ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Me i wonder if he's closer to level 6 than ever before

    He basically got hooked up to a super computer, all the calculations he had to do by himself should now come much easier to him
    I don't know about that. Accel was grinding sisters to gather experience and served as an experience to explore his powers. More computation power isn't quite the same as that, and his previous prowess wasn't dependant on such a thing anyway.

    The fact that he's still limping makes me question how much the Sister Network actually compensates for what he lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david
    Just a cheap guess, but my take on Kuroko's ability is that "touch" limitation. Or at least it might be one of the steps to overcome in order to go to level 5.
    An other point is that the other teleport user was extremely surprised Kuroko still had metal pins available. I'd have to rewatch the scene to know if it was just a mistake on her part, not counting right or missing that spot.
    It's impossible to know by counting them. I tried. I think I also did try last season, but we do not really know how many there are.
    It's just that maybe for those pins Kuroko does not need touching to teleport them in the holsters... that would mean she gets more and more control on her ability.
    I believe that when Kuroko doesn't need to touch objects, she'll have advanced to lvl5.

    But no, Kuroko definitely needs to touch those pins of hers. I wondered at the significance of that scene too (where Musujime looked surprised/shocked). My first guess was that Kuroko landed a blow on her, but it was never confirmed. I really want to know what happened.
    Last edited by Buffalobiian; Sat, 11-13-2010 at 07:40 AM. Reason: missed David's post because posting from a phone takes forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Last Order also knew a bit (and Accelerator certainly told her to try and get rid of her) of how many of her sisters he killed. Saving her made them even, and now she and her network are back saving him from being a semi-veggie.
    Here is where I disagree. I don't think he owes anything to the remaining sisters for what happened during the experiment. I don't think he even feels that way himself, despite disliking the slaughter. He is an evil dude and the imoutos aren't quite normal either, so it's a more or less moot debate in any case. Who knows whether Last Order decided to help him to repay or simply to be able to stay close to him.

    If somebody really owes anybody anything, it's the scientists and whoever was backing them. In that sense I don't know why Mikoto is so worried: They would hardly be able to use the old subjects anymore and furthermore would make a really good target out of themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    In that sense I don't know why Mikoto is so worried: They would hardly be able to use the old subjects anymore and furthermore would make a really good target out of themselves.
    I think the implications are that if they gathered the Remnants of the Tree Diagram, they could start the experiment all over from the beginning. However, I'm not even sure they mean that they would use the same participants. There are more than two Level 5's in the city. Mikoto is afraid of the Sisters getting used again, but Musujime was trying to tell her she should consider herself a victim and not get involved.

    The one part that confused me was where Musujime and Mikoto were talking and Mikoto's line about, "Did that idiot think I wouldn't notice? Hearing such a fainthearted voice, it's just...horrible."

    Does this mean she's getting some kind of feedback from the Sisters and Last Order? That she can hear them faintly in the distance, crying out in pain when they die or suffer? It's not out of the question given all the AIM field stuff that can go on, we have even had a consciousness or two form from it. The connection might be even stronger because they're all clones. Like the strange kind of stuff with twins. If so, it makes sense why Musujime telling Mikoto that she should just let it be would only serve to piss her off more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryll
    Mikoto's line about, "Did that idiot think I wouldn't notice?

    UTW: Even though she closed the door, her voice sounded horrible"
    That idiot was Kuroko.

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    Can't say I liked this episode, felt to much like a regular Railgun episode.
    so it was decent but nothing more to me

    whats up with all the fanservice recently, its annoying and shaming to see lolis naked all the time.
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    It's nice to see some of the old characters again.
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    [Ayako]Toaru Majutsu no Index II – 07 H264
    [Ayako]Toaru Majutsu no Index II – 07 XviD

    Enjoy!

    Edit: FUCKING AWESOME.
    Next ep gonna be great too. Misaka's mom and a new tit mage.
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    Episode 07 - UTW-Mazui

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    Haha, Accelerator's goddamn Yoda now!! xD

    Looks like he's picked up close combat from Touma too, unless he purposely chose that so his projectiles won't get teleported away. Musujime could have teleported Accelerator a few miles away then go into hiding if she wasn't scared shitless.
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    A whole novel wrapped up in two episodes? And well done? Awesome.

    I was slightly dissapointed that Kuroko didn't learn about the existance of the SISTERS but oh well. It was awesome anyway.

    Accelerator rocked. And Last Order is very cute. I, like Ryll, wonder if Mikoto was like this when younger.

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    The action sequence when Kuroko was being saved lost me a bit. Mazui's release said that Musujime was going to teleport 4 tons of stuff to hit the building and collapse it - but what was shown didn't make too much sense. (the translation made me think of an asteroid collision).

    Touma's "cancel" made it look like a Musujime was after replacing or removing Kuroko's building instead.

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    She didn't say she was going to teleport 4 tons on top of it, only that she could. I assumed that what she was teleporting was the whole building.

    What i felt was confusing was how her trauma was never explained and neither was her mental breakdown after shooting Kuroko

    Still, good arc. The preview shows a staggering amount of new boobs, Friday can't come soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post

    What i felt was confusing was how her trauma was never explained and neither was her mental breakdown after shooting Kuroko
    The episode did explain this. Kuroko mentioned her trauma came from having a bad teleport. She even suggested (and may already know it) that Musujime may have teleported herself within an object. Which happened as well when she fought Accelerator... she teleported towards a glass and one embedded inside of her.

    Regarding her breakdown... it came down to her fear and hate of her own powers. She said powers were evil... Kuroko gave her the speech of how powers aren't evil, but those that use them for evil. One speech later and the girl breaks down because she know its right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    She didn't say she was going to teleport 4 tons on top of it, only that she could. I assumed that what she was teleporting was the whole building.
    So what good does teleporting a building do? Except maybe throwing it up in the air and having it crush Kuroko who is within it on the landing?

    What does the novel actually say about this? While I do think she's trying to teleport the building too, since that makes the most sense judging from what happened, it doesn't quite match up with what she said.

    edit: looking back, she mentioned collapsing the building. I can only assume she's talking about destroying the structure like what Kuroko's pillar cutter did. I can settle with that then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zell
    Which happened as well when she fought Accelerator... she teleported towards a glass and one embedded inside of her.
    I don't think that's what happened. If she teleported with a bit of glass inside her, then she'd be vomiting up blood, not simply gastric fluid. It looked like the normal trauma reaction to me. Even though it's not the exact same power, Kuroko explained that teleporting displaces whatever was originally there with whatever you teleported. That means she'll replace the glass, not the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    So what good does teleporting a building do? Except maybe throwing it up in the air and having it crush Kuroko who is within it on the landing?
    She could teleport it half an inch in whichever direction, after severing the foundations it would just collapse under its own weight or possibly tilt over

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    My understanding of the building crushing scene was that she was teleporting the 4250kgs.
    But it wasn't instantaneous like it usually is, for whatever reason.
    So Mikoto created an opening with her railgun, Touma then used his ninpo to jump from flying objects to the others to climb that multi-storey building in a matter of seconds, just in time to cancel the teleportation and catch the falling Kuroko to save her.

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