Toaru Majutsu no Index

[David75]

Well he was conscise enough while talking about the vector change.
To me it was clear he only acts as a miror, he can change some parameters.
Maybe I was wrong before, to me he only changes directions, but not intensity, energy, velocity.
He can choose any direction, and he set that to reflection as default. He's some kind of universal miror.

I wonder what Imagine Breaker can do with it. What would be an inversion of the Imagine Breaker if we suppose the Imagine Breaker doesn't just anihilate the Vector power. Then what will happen of the power if Touma can actually touch him too... I suppose that would deactivate the power.

[shinta|hikari]

I think he can only change direction, not speed. If Touma manages to get a hold of him, Touma will just beat the shit out of him like he did everyone else he fought.

Being able to neutralize every mystical attack on all sides at will is not overpowered? Teach him how to use a gun (a real one) and he will be.

[RyougaZell]

Touma's esper power is classified as Level 0 not because he is useless, mostly because his power cannot be detected. Remember he nullified Mikoto's attack on episode 1, and she is supposed to be the 3rd strongest Level 5 esper.

And its a power that works on its won, nullifying anything. See Kuroko trying to teleport him, with no ill intent, and it didn't work.

Accelerator is the strongest Level 5, so he must be able to control his power, so he doesn't die by repelling oxygen.

Keep the clones. Just leave me the pants

No way. Keep Index, Kaori and the loli-sensei.

Mikoto, her clones and everything about them is mine.

PS: later I'll post a picture in my room, but I bought this last month:

[Marik]

Nice, dude! How much did that cost ya? Oh, by the way, Himegami > all.

[animus]

Sphinx is probably my favorite character so far.

[David75]

Touma's esper power is classified as Level 0 not because he is useless, mostly because his power cannot be detected. Remember he nullified Mikoto's attack on episode 1, and she is supposed to be the 3rd strongest Level 5 esper.

And its a power that works on its won, nullifying anything. See Kuroko trying to teleport him, with no ill intent, and it didn't work.

Accelerator is the strongest Level 5, so he must be able to control his power, so he doesn't die by repelling oxygen.



No way. Keep Index, Kaori and the loli-sensei.

Mikoto, her clones and everything about them is mine.

PS: later I'll post a picture in my room, but I bought this last month:

He's considered level 0 also because his attack power is 0, 0 being the attack power of your average human being.

That let's me think that the accelerator must have something else up his sleeves than just his Vector direction modification... or he'd be level 0 too.

Other questions:
Why having young teens with powers and the ability to kill/attack?
What is the society they live in?
What is the source of their power, which parts of sciences did develop to give them these powers and why?

For the magic world we know, and somehow we get the idea that science and magic are equal in power allowing for some kind of balance or coldwar beetween them.
That's all we know I guess.

Back to Touma, he had trouble with the cutting strings and swords girl, because her attack was mainly physical. Touma escaped thanks to his wits.
His hand proved some limits with the spell that was threatning Index, his finger got injured by magic only, which never happened before, and didn't after. So some level/types of magic can actually work on it. It's not necessarily a threat now, but could be in the future.

Regarding his powers, wits and recklessness, Touma ressembles Kuzumi Taiga from Mx0 a lot. Everything else is quite different.

[RyougaZell]

Nice, dude! How much did that cost ya? Oh, by the way, Himegami > all.

6600 Yens

My Mikoto at my room



PS: post 2500, w00t!

[animus]

He's considered level 0 also because his attack power is 0, 0 being the attack power of your average human being.

That let's me think that the accelerator must have something else up his sleeves than just his Vector direction modification... or he'd be level 0 too.

Other questions:
Why having young teens with powers and the ability to kill/attack?
What is the society they live in?
What is the source of their power, which parts of sciences did develop to give them these powers and why?

For the magic world we know, and somehow we get the idea that science and magic are equal in power allowing for some kind of balance or coldwar beetween them.
That's all we know I guess.

Back to Touma, he had trouble with the cutting strings and swords girl, because her attack was mainly physical. Touma escaped thanks to his wits.
His hand proved some limits with the spell that was threatning Index, his finger got injured by magic only, which never happened before, and didn't after. So some level/types of magic can actually work on it. It's not necessarily a threat now, but could be in the future.

Regarding his powers, wits and recklessness, Touma ressembles Kuzumi Taiga from Mx0 a lot. Everything else is quite different.

No I'm sure Level 0 was not finding Touma's ability, because I'm sure the Teleporting Girl isn't classified as a Level 0.

[shinta|hikari]

True. It is absurd to rate powers solely on their attack power anyway.

[RyougaZell]

I was going to explain somethings... but then I deleted it... it was further explained at A Certain Scientific Railgun, but would be a spoiler... as its the series precuel...

Kuroko's level, Accelerator's power, etc.

[Buffalobiian]

I guess I was taking "vector change" a bit too literally. I guess we shall see, but I think you guys are right.

Other questions:
Why having young teens with powers and the ability to kill/attack?
What is the society they live in?
What is the source of their power, which parts of sciences did develop to give them these powers and why?

They live in a city based entirely on science. The whole city is an academy for all these young people with supernatural powers, known as espers. They're born with their powers, but given (as far as we know). If we think of it as something genetic, then these powers have a scientific root to them. They're gathered there to put their powers to use, as well as learning to use their powers (safely?).

Normal, powerless people can obtain these supernatural powers artificially by means of magic. These are people who obtained power, while espers are those born with power. Scientific or magical, both can be regarded as "supernatural" powers.

[NeoCybercoin]

Episode 12 is out by Eclipse

Toaru Majutsu no Index 12 h264 by Eclipse

[Kraco]

That was a strange emo episode. Would have made somewhat more sense if Touma had suggested he will help Railgun to stop Accelelator. A kind of a strange approach to simply try to make her dream crumble without any option offered instead. Although not necessarily a bad one as such. Basically he was forcing Mikoto to rethink the decision and her own values. Not a very effective solution and quite a painful one no doubt (for both of them) but perhaps it will open a road to a more lasting change of thinking.

[RyougaZell]

While it was indeed a bit emotional like Kraco said, I think it was a fantastic episode with a different pace as of yet.

Chibi-Mikoto was adorable.

And Touma receiving so many electric shocks must have been painful. I guess his power really isn't protecting all of him as one would thought when he cancelled Kuroko's teleportation even thought she wasn't touching his right arm.

Don't miss the scene after the ending and before the preview. It was kinda weird they did it like that since no other episode of this series has.

And Mikoto cried at the end...

[Kleitan]

Depressing episode, but still good. Mikoto is lovable.

[Nadouku]

I think Touma and Mikoto should hook it up. They would make a great couple, bickering over each other and having battles as they go along the way.

As for the episode, nice feeling to it. I like how Touma just takes all of her attacks just to hear her say "Help me" (if he's even thinking of that). He's really a tough son of a bitch.

[Xelbair]

Touma got his Badass stat increased by over 9000.
Awesome ep, bit emo true, but it gives possibility for so much plot lines(fighting, running, love, random mages encounters, or some kind of plot twist). Look how he changed from well, failure to such badass - taking hits from Mikoto, Fighting Aureolus Izzard(only i think that it sounds like Wizzard?) etc.

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Woot - 200 post! rank-up!

[Buffalobiian]

I certainly didn't find the dialogue dragging, but perhaps only because I like to see the chemistry between these two. It seems kind of out of place that they showed scientists wanting to learn about Mikoto's electricity control for medical purposes, only to have the following airtime dedicated to her being cannon fodder for Accelerator. Judging from that, I'm inclined to think somehow Touma can convince them that the previous experiment is the more worthwhile or something.

Other than that, looking forward to an action episode next week (hopefully).

[David75]

I still think his power works for his whole body, only that its weaker there, so the protection is not as good as when his hand shields him.

Also, in time, his power may grow and he is able to have a sphere around him that anihilates anything paranormal. I don't know if they'll take that route as in the end he could well extend his ability to say a whole city...

Regarding his fighting style, it remains the same:
Have the other guy to attack him full force, anihilate every attack to destabilize them. They're so shocked they do not think of simple ways to strike him.
In that case, she could take any metal bit, have it heated up to a point of fusion and accelerate it to near light speed: increadible cannon. The fusion bullet would go through Touma without any deceleration...
But right now, she's too preocupied by the fact her powerful attacks can't get to him

[shinta|hikari]

The reason why Touma could not be teleported is because his right hand is part of his body. Anything supernatural is negated by the hand, thus the teleportation that involves the hand cannot work.

The flames and the like that he negated before despite the fact that they should have engulfed him can be explained by how he stopped the beam Index fired. The size of the beam should have passed through his relatively miniscule right hand, but it was stopped completely. This means that energy attacks can be absorbed by his right hand as long as it makes contact, which means that the flames and the like were completely negated the moment his hand touches any part of the energy aimed at him, much like a vacuum.

If he was attacked by 2 beams from different directions and his right hand can only touch one of them, he should get hit by the other.

Accelerator should be Touma's worst enemy, since all accelerator's power does is to redirect objects (I am assuming he cannot alter the speed, since nothing has been shown to prove otherwise). The object itself should contain no supernatural properties, so even a stone hurled at the right speed should be able to take Touma out. But then again, if Accelerator cannot control the speed of the object, and Touma does not have any active attacks aside from punching, it seems like it will end in a stupid stalemate, unless Accelerator is smart enough to bring a gun with him.