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    I think accelerator will be part of the misaka network that will provide him computation power to enable his powers. In a way, he becomes the queen of the hive.
    To survive he needs them and he can somehow protect them?

    Other than the outcome, what was happening was a bit too familiar with Touma/Index. But that was fine.

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    That would be one powerful network. An army of railguns with an invincible "deflect all" hivemind would be something to fear. It's about time too that Accelerator finally reveals his weakness in the form of computing power. It's not something an opponent can usually take advantage of though, unless he's caught in a pinch like this one (though if he gets more screentime, hacking in to cause a Denial of Service attack on him and his network will be a more accessible weak point. Deflect seems to use jack all thinking anyway.

    I notice that we've clocked all the way up to episode 20 already with enough room for 1 good arc. I've enjoyed it so far, but due to the scope of the whole science/magic thing, it feels like things have only just kicked off. A second season of Index this show is a must!
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    A second season is definitely a must. Specially with all the leftover source material. And I read somewhere the DVD/Blu-ray was selling nicely, so maybe we can get it.

    I find strange that several series this season are changing their ending song in episode 20, instead of the usual 'half' of the series. But yeah... this series also had a late-op change.

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    A good opportunity for Accelerator to prove he's capable of more than killing. Though the fact he didn't kill the scientist was a detail revealing he's not really a natural killer anyway, further proving MISAKA was right in her analysis in the previous episode. A costly mistake in any case.

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    The doctor mentioned he'll supplement Accelerator's lost brain function with the Network, but from the ED he seems to be wearing a chokie/collar. I'm trying to make out whether it's a transmitter (why isn't it implanted then?) to the Network or some piece of fashion accessory. Really, the only plausible idea that comes to mind is a vibration microphone to pick up his voice, perhaps in order to voice-command via radio. Again, the reason why it ain't implanted comes to mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    A good opportunity for Accelerator to prove he's capable of more than killing. Though the fact he didn't kill the scientist was a detail revealing he's not really a natural killer anyway, further proving MISAKA was right in her analysis in the previous episode. A costly mistake in any case.
    Indeed. They also went into detail pointing out that Accelerator's been the target of people's curiosity since he was a kid. With randoms showing up in tanks just to see if you can really take a hit must make it really hard to make friends, leading to him only finding pleasure (if he indeed did) by shoving ammunition back in their face. It's been that long since someone's called him by his name that he doesn't even remember it anymore. I do hope if and when he joins this "Touma Fraction" that the writters (author) really does come back to this and give him a name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    The doctor mentioned he'll supplement Accelerator's lost brain function with the Network, but from the ED he seems to be wearing a chokie/collar. I'm trying to make out whether it's a transmitter (why isn't it implanted then?) to the Network or some piece of fashion accessory. Really, the only plausible idea that comes to mind is a vibration microphone to pick up his voice, perhaps in order to voice-command via radio. Again, the reason why it ain't implanted comes to mind.



    Indeed. They also went into detail pointing out that Accelerator's been the target of people's curiosity since he was a kid. With randoms showing up in tanks just to see if you can really take a hit must make it really hard to make friends, leading to him only finding pleasure (if he indeed did) by shoving ammunition back in their face. It's been that long since someone's called him by his name that he doesn't even remember it anymore. I do hope if and when he joins this "Touma Fraction" that the writters (author) really does come back to this and give him a name.
    Another question is, is he human?

    Because the way he talked about humans would have us think he isn't, or can't be considered, or doesn't consider himself a human. I don't know if it's really important, I just noted that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    The doctor mentioned he'll supplement Accelerator's lost brain function with the Network, but from the ED he seems to be wearing a chokie/collar. I'm trying to make out whether it's a transmitter (why isn't it implanted then?) to the Network or some piece of fashion accessory. Really, the only plausible idea that comes to mind is a vibration microphone to pick up his voice, perhaps in order to voice-command via radio. Again, the reason why it ain't implanted comes to mind.
    I bet his name is Shotaro Jirou or Yamada Tarou. The stereotypically Japanese boring names, aka John Smith. It fits the two and three kanji he was talking about, assuming that each kanji is one syllable, as well as the "boring" reference he made.

    I don't think it really needs to be implanted, because it isn't meant to be a permanent solution. The doctor mentioned that he'd be connected to the network as a form of rehabilitation, like physical therapy for his squishy white matter.

    @David:
    Accelerator talks down to everyone because he is essentially superior to the rest of the espers, and because he's an arrogant sonofabitch. If they are all human, he must be something better than human. Homo Superior to use some Marvel Comics references. Tons of other characters in other series do this too.

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    Erm, not always each kanji is one syllable, that is rare case Ryll, for example Yamada is 2 kanji Yama(mountain, other readings incude san, but its not the honorific title) Da(Field, other readings: Ta)
    Or Übermench from Nietzsche, instead of Homo Superior.
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    I only vaguely knew, just making the conjecture. It's got to be something like that though. I just can't get the kanji to fit.

    Thanks for the lesson.

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    Toaru Majutsu Index: Ep. 21

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    Nice, laid-back episode with some Himegami screen time, who actually came along pretty informative to Touma. Other than that, this new girl seems to have an eerie feeling that she's being chased by someone else and is hiding out for a while, like what Index was in. Kind of fateful how those two met, but I can't be too sure of that, and I must say that the character designs are getting quite weird, in a good way.
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    At first I thought that Aisa recognized Hyouka as a vampire, but then I realized that Hyouka would have approached Aisa if she was one, only to then be destroyed by Aisa's innate ability.

    I was actually really impressed with Kuroko. Though she couldn't stop Sherry because she doesn't know about the existence of magic before this point (as admitted from her line when she got snagged), the creators were still doing a good job at fully exploiting what a teleporter could really do. Kuroko flipped Sherry over with a thought, and then pinned her, but she could have killed her easily, and they showed that.

    A teleporter like her could easily grab someone, transport up 500 ft, separate in mid-air, and teleport back to safe ground, watching as their opponent fell to their death. Kuroko can also apparently send objects without teleporting herself, so she could drop any manner of heavy object on someone.


    Touma's capacity for bluffing his way through his memory loss still continues to impress me as well. He handled Aisa with only a short pause, and she was none the wiser.


    EDIT: I just realized that it is possible that Kuroko could have simply done a judo style trip or something to Sherry. Given how fast it happened and the lack of leverage Kuroko had, I still think she used her esper to force Sherry to the ground.
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    hehe I had totally forgotten that Touma had forgotten about Aisa...I for some reason was thinking that he had met her AFTER his memory loss. Nice one there Ryllharu. Oh yeah and great episode. I look forward to the next one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalrurouni
    hehe I had totally forgotten that Touma had forgotten about Aisa...I for some reason was thinking that he had met her AFTER his memory loss.
    If I recall, Touma's memory loss started around episode 6, whereas he met Himegami at episode 7, so he clearly still remembers her. Don't know how you got that weird assumption, but the only people that he should have forgotten about are everyone he met in school, Stiyl, Kaori, Index, and anything else (most importantly, Mikoto).
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    That is correct. Touma lost his memories before meeting Himegami. The mission he took with Styl was after the memory loss.

    Quite fantastic episode at the second half. Kuroko's scene was quite excellent. I, like Ryll, think she teleported Sherry. My guess is she touched her and teleported her to the floor in that short second. Oh... loved how Kuroko hugged her One-sama, drool.

    Oh yeah... I liked how flustered Mikoto was at the beginning with Touma. After all... this episode took place the day after they pretended to be dating. I kinda liked the 'this events are taking at the same time or immediately after' part of the last few episodes.

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    Oops, I stand corrected on the Aisa memory issue. No idea what gave me the idea that he had. After you reminded me, I clearly remember him bluffing his way through with Stiyl.

    She's still somewhat forgettable, she didn't do much of anything even in her own arc.

    I felt really lost in this episode, there was a lot of technical stuff they made it sound like I should remember from a previous arc, but I don't think we had seen any of it before.
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    [QUOTE=Ryllharu]She's still somewhat forgettable, she didn't do much of anything even in her own arc.
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    Funfact. Her novel is the least liked and the one that sold less.


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    My speculation is that she came alongisde the magician that was stalking Mikoto. The transition may fell awkward after the Accelerator arc we saw... yet that one took place the night before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    She's still somewhat forgettable, she didn't do much of anything even in her own arc.
    I'm still wondering when was it that she moved out of Touma's house. It's like she vanished after the strongest vs weakest arc

    The new girl is timid, wears glasses and has big boobs so that alone puts her up there with Mikoto in my book, if she turns out to be just a bit more interesting im making her my favorite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    I was actually really impressed with Kuroko. Though she couldn't stop Sherry because she doesn't know about the existence of magic before this point (as admitted from her line when she got snagged), the creators were still doing a good job at fully exploiting what a teleporter could really do. Kuroko flipped Sherry over with a thought, and then pinned her, but she could have killed her easily, and they showed that.

    EDIT: I just realized that it is possible that Kuroko could have simply done a judo style trip or something to Sherry. Given how fast it happened and the lack of leverage Kuroko had, I still think she used her esper to force Sherry to the ground.
    Yes she grabbed her and used her ability to teleport her to the ground

    What was weird is what she did next:

    - She can apparently teleport anything she wants including herself by touvhing it but why did those metal spikes hit the ground with such force?

    Isn't her ability limited to changing the location of objects? How did she add momentum to the object the teleported? I think we need a Kuroko so this stuff can be properly explained, i'm sure that Touma is just the guy to turn her straight
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