Episode 05 released by a group called AniStash
AniStash - Casshern Sins - Episode 5
Never heard of them and I think I'll probably just wait for Shinsen. They seem to have subbed a few episodes of season 3 of Zero Tsukaima, but it looks like they're relatively new and have yet to actually stick to any one series...
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Well, I've just picked up this series, and I was pretty surprised and impressed with it so far. I think I was deterred at first because I'm not really into the "giant robot" anime genre, so when I hear robot my eyes usually glaze over and I click the back button. I was curious that this thread was getting so many posts though, so I gave it a try.
The way that the characters in each episode impact me emotionally reminds me a bit of Mushishi. All of them are so vividly different, and they're all a little bit heartbreaking in their own way. Poor Casshern, he's so confused, but he desperately wants to save them, and gets really down on himself when he can't. Everything about the world is so ruined and terrible, and yet it just adds to the beauty of this story. It reminds me of the quote from Kino's Journey: "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is." Some of those same themes are present here, I think.
As to the nature of the ruin, I'm very skeptical that there's anything natural about it. The minute any material is separated from a robot, it starts to crack and crumble. There's something about the 'consciousness' of the robots that slows it down, but once that is lost, they decay at abnormal speed. The advent of the ruin is also linked to a certain day, the day that Luna was killed. So, as far as I can tell, there was something unnatural unleashed upon the world that day that started it all. It might be a Matrix-type situation where the humans came up with the ruin as a weapon to fight against the robots. Maybe a bit far-fetched, but we don't know very much at the moment about the relationship between humans and robots.
Definitely going to keep following this one.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Interesting episode... we finally get a little more background... at least from the pink haired girl... has her name been said yet?
And I actually started to think the episodes were not being showed in chronological order... because of Friender... how it acted as if not wanting to be near Casshern at the start (and taking into account it was not on ep 4) but then he just follows Casshern as if nothing happened... after saving the girl from the berserker Casshern...
00:25 - the longest opening scene yet, and, well, it's chock full of info. Casshern didn't decide to kill Luna, and it almost seems as if he had no real choice. In this way most of his angst about it is generated because he doesn't have his memories and thinks that maybe, somehow, he willingly did it, willingly brought the Ruin on the world.
02:40 - Casshern is brought to tears by a huge mound of slag. As always, even without words we get the feeling that he's blaming himself for the destruction.
03:55 - Friender's inability to stay angry at a Casshern who is constantly torturing himself with guilt is likely a trend we're going to see in this show among characters.
05:45 - but the girl sure is trying... Seems to be the type that needs to have an enemy or someone to hate lest she suddenly have to go about doing something positive.
08:10 - Well, one thing for sure is that the Ruin was not some kind of instant apoclypse. The fact that Luna's protector died a slow death, in a world still filled with sunlight and trees, sure points to that, but... The fact that her Ruin started the moment Luna died...
09:00 - good stuff with the ruin starting in the fall and the first Ruin victim's death coming at sunset.
11:00 - And, of course, like most lazy, guilt-ridden people, Casshern says, "Hey, well, if I did a bad thing, just kill me!" Of course, only reactionary fools would take him up on this offer, since the clear thing to do is to make him redeem himself not just through dying, but trying to actively amend for his act until he dies.
12:40 - I'll say it only once. The head. Cut off the goddamn head. Slashing his body up with all those wild, shallow attacks might be a great way to take out frustration, but, as the guy said himself, it's not enough to kill him.
13:10 - Asimov's Third Law of Robotics kicks in. It came up last episode, as Casshern said he didn't "become unlike" himself when Sophita stabbed him because there was no killing intent (also, matches with his massacre of the weak robots at the church in episode 2, since even though there was no way for them to kill him, they certainly meant to). But I'm still having trouble with Episode 3, where Casshern seemed to be content to let Friender kill him... HAve to re-watch that one later.
13:20 - His eyes aren't clouded over, but, that face... Artistic inconsistency, or?
14:50 - Everybody seems to realize that Casshern is unable to let himself be killed, and so he does the only smart thing he can, just walk away.
15:35 - Spare parts that haven't been Ruined? Tell us more!
16:20 - Hope. He says it'll come if their bodies get better (aka, the Ruin stops), but, of course, one can imagine that the Ruin is simply caused by the lack of hope in the world (Luna).
17:25 - hmm... somehow this episode has really felt like they're holding back on showing the violence... I can only wonder why, but... personally it's not something that i like to see.
20:10 - Well, guess those fears of toning down the violence were a bit premature.
21:45 - Evil twin brother? Well, sure, it seems to be in a ton of robot stories like these, so why not...
Looks like we'll get a little more back story, as well as an opponent who can really stand toe to toe with Casshern next episode...
Somehow I wasn't really feeling this one all that much.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
She didn't try to cut off his head because for some reason, she didn't have an intent to kill at that point. When she tried to run him through, she obviously planned to kill him at that point because Casshern's suit reacted.Originally Posted by masamuneehs
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Damn, Casshern is so fucking awesome, everytime he runs berserk I feel excitement.
I love it when his ventail closes... it tells me that the next scenes are going to be fucking awesome
I totally like characters like him, who are extremely strong and powerfull, but do not know when it's time to stop and go on a killing frenzy.. not even sparing the lives of little "kids"
Did anyone see the extended preview for the next episode? looks fkn amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG2W05xJ76o
While this is most undeniably amusing, the trolling is simply juvenile, at best.
It's good to see though, because, unless I'm missing something, the old Casshern was quite a bit different from Sins. Makes me want to give extra imaginary internet kudos to the Sins Projects folks for cooking up this awesome, darker series we're enjoying now.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Guys ? Am I alone seeing some kind of Guren Lagaan like pattern ?
Slow start, but amazing series with growing potential all along
Gurren Lagann didn't have a particularly slow start... Nor did this one, for that matter. This seems to belong to the risky class of stories where the end is first laid before your eyes and then you start to rewind it backwards, figuratively speaking, as we don't have even flashbacks that much. Great many amnesia stories in general aren't like this, because the story doesn't really seem to move forward much, so the emphasis lies fully in the past and the amnesia is not just a character trait. It's more or less a dead world so it makes sense there's not much forward movement, but I still like how this isn't any flashback fest. I never liked those very much. But I like how this show proceeds with Casshern meeting random denizens and learns something of himself either directly or indirectly.
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Sry but I tried to find out for like 5-10 minutes, why you said "Gurren Lagann like pattern"
I can't see anything in Casshern Sins which is even a *bit* similiar to Gurren Lagann.
Gurren Lagann "grows" exponentially (or how I like to call it "the rise of awesomeness")
1st episode: Fight 1 Robot with a small robot
2nd episode: FIght 3 Robots with a small and big robot
3rd episode: Fight a Special robot with a combined robot
26th episode: Fight 100000 enemies + 2 huge "wtf are these things?" with 50000 allies and a fucking huge battle-cruiser in space
27th episode: Fight a God-like being with a God-like robot, using planets and whole galaxys as weapons and punching balls.
and on the other hand Casshern... who is like an invincible (sometimes emo-)berserker who seems to meet an enemy strong enough to defeat him for the first time.
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I don't know what you are refering too at the moment
Gurren Lagann is your typical "rise of a Hero" story, while Casshern seems to be more something like the guy from Kaze no Stigma...
extremely strong and overpowered through the whole story, but mental problems etc.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Tue, 11-04-2008 at 04:08 PM.
FRIENDER TAKE WING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL ROFLCOPTOR!!!!!!
here is a link to the oav its 4 parts for anybody who cares still its a totaly differnt story
also this first link is a sub vid quality kind meh but not bad
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/5...er?tab=summary
another link this one is in (shudders) english and the video is better its not that the dub is bad its just everyone sounds like they are in there 40s
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3705...__Robot_Hunter
Last edited by NeoBear; Sat, 11-08-2008 at 10:07 PM.
Favorite Gotwoot Mod moment: "Why is everyone in that show black? The art and music are pretty good, and the voice acting is alrite as well......but i can't stand that guy who follows afro around. Hes so, well, black, for the lack of a better term (well thats not true, there is a better term, but i wont use it here)" Assassin
i was raised by this woman =O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrR7hPT9Bs
oh, thanks for the ovas man. lol, I saw someone had posted in here and thought episode 6 had been released.. but it hasn't. >.<.
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um i do have episode 6 but i didnt think anybody would want this group
http://www.anirena.com/viewtracker.p...nload&id=16172
by AniStash
Favorite Gotwoot Mod moment: "Why is everyone in that show black? The art and music are pretty good, and the voice acting is alrite as well......but i can't stand that guy who follows afro around. Hes so, well, black, for the lack of a better term (well thats not true, there is a better term, but i wont use it here)" Assassin
i was raised by this woman =O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JrR7hPT9Bs
no thanks <.<. I'll wait for Shinsen.
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Guess we're all waiting for the Shinsen release.
Just watched episode 5, and it seems like there were some truths to all the theories here. Certainly there's a resources problem, but there's also some sort of disease being alluded to more directly, especially when we see Cassherns first casuality. But then we see that there are some parts that are still prestine (maybe because they haven't been exposed to the environment) that would enable these robots to get fixed.
So what I'm getting at is that there's certianly a resources problem, had there been resources around the robots would need not fear this ruin. Just the same there's some sort of supernatural thing or disease that is causing this corrosion of the environment to spread quicker.
7 is out by AniStash. I wonder why shinsen is taking so long..
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At least they moved a little:
Episode 6 - Shinsen
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Edit: Well, well. Obviously this new guy knew something, but revealed very little (although I deem he was lying or simply guessing when he claimed he would be able to and would cure the ruin if Casshern dies). I guess he and the laughing mystery lady must have been the King's other liutenants, but it seems like Casshern indeed received something as a "gift" from Luna when he slew her. The other dude didn't look too good after the fight so likely the liutenants weren't all immortal (including ruin resistance) to begin with. An easy guess would be Casshern's immortality and memory loss are thus connected, and also connected to Luna. Like Casshern, we need to learn more about Luna.
A great fight in this episode, in any case. Even if no special powers were displayed. I was expecting something since the other dude suggested he knows their powers thoroughly, unlike Casshern.
Last edited by Kraco; Sat, 11-15-2008 at 06:57 PM.
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