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    LOL, wth
    Taiga´s reaction at the end was totally overdone. "OH MY GOD, THE PERSON I LOVE IS GOING TO HEAR THAT I LOVE HIM, OH NO, I HAVE TO KILL MYSELF!" lol

    Okay episode, though it sucks that Ami has, seemingly, given up on Takasu.

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    Not trying to argue here but how is Minorin two faced?

    Maybe I'm wrong but thought she got angry/violent because of what Takasu did and in which case I found it totally acceptable.

    Last thing I'll ever use to argue for Minorin because it's really this one point that made her a good character imo. Even if she's a coward or whatever people think she is, to me that makes her realistic and prefer she's like that then being some kind of perfect human that does everything right. They all misunderstand each other from time to time, fail in communication, makes mistakes, gets angry etc etc and I find it normal.

    Thinking about it the only one I don't like much in the whole show is Takasu, one reason is that while I feel that all the girls are somewhat realistic I can't feel that from Takasu. Also never really liked how he claimed to love Minorin but dropped next to everything to help Taiga and be there for her even on the night that he was going to confess to Minorin. Makes it seem as if Minorin wasn't really important to him since he had Taiga on his mind well almost all the time that we've seen. Basically his feelings felt like they mount up to nothing maybe that's why I don't feel sorry for him after he got dumped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireheart
    Thinking about it the only one I don't like much in the whole show is Takasu, one reason is that while I feel that all the girls are somewhat realistic I can't feel that from Takasu. Also never really liked how he claimed to love Minorin but dropped next to everything to help Taiga and be there for her even on the night that he was going to confess to Minorin. Makes it seem as if Minorin wasn't really important to him since he had Taiga on his mind well almost all the time that we've seen. Basically his feelings felt like they mount up to nothing maybe that's why I don't feel sorry for him after he got dumped.
    Don't forget that Takasu and Taiga's relationship began because of mutual agreement to help the other out because the objects of their crushes were the other's best friend. Then because they are working closely together, everyone misunderstands and thinks the two of them are suddenly going out, everything backfires, then it all works out as originally intended, only for the two of them to realize they fell in love when it's almost too late. Pretty standard Hollywood teen-movie or shoujo-manga material, we've all seen it a million times.

    He did love Minorin at first, but as Ami has correctly identified multiple times in the past, Takasu and Minorin were playing house with Taiga. Takasu became a father figure to her, feeding her, taking care of her, et cetera, especially after he found out what an asshole her real father was. Minorin had been doing the same since she found out about Taiga's father.

    Minorin was important to him, but proximity often breeds affection, and so Takasu slowly, inexorably, shifted to Taiga. He's too dumb to realize it, and Taiga was too dumb to realize it until she almost had Kitamura, and now she wants to deny it.

    He had a crush on Minorin. Nothing more. Crushes fade, and he has finally started to realize it. The problem after that was what Ami mentioned. Does he really love Taiga, or is he still just playing house? Minorin eventually figured it out and tried to reject it (because she is still playing house, and likes it that way), and Ami started to like him herself, but became bitter because she felt others were interfering with her chances and she tried to make Takasu figure out whether he really liked Taiga or not. If not, Ami would probably have swept in, but she's a coward herself. That tangled mess created the strife we now find ourselves watching.

    Takasu is just as realistic as the others, it is just sort of in the background because of how gradual fading crushes always are.

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    What I hate about Minorin is that she tells Taiga to confess her feelings and even screams at her for hidng them, yet she does/did the exact same thing. She loves Takasu but doesn't confess.

    She is telling Taiga that she wants to create her own "happiness"/future or whatever., yet she does the same thing as her again and cares more about Taiga's happiness than her own.

    Then she gets totally angry at Takasu for lying and ignoring Taigas feelings, yet (again) she did the exact same thing when Takasu tried to confess to her all the time...

    She's like a drug addict, telling other people to stop taking drugs because it's illegal and they suffer from doing so.

    Minorin should be the last person on earth to tell others what to do in this case... at least in such a aggressive way. And I wouldn't say she has "experienced" such mistakes before and wants to warn Taiga, because I doubt that she realized the mistakes she has done yet
    Last edited by KrayZ33; Sat, 03-14-2009 at 02:41 PM.

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    krayz: I know you weren't the one that said Minorin was a two faced person but just a question. Am I mixing up my English because that seems like a hypocrite more than two faced. Then again I'm not 100% sure on how a two faced person is because always thought that was something more akin to a backstabbing person but kinda unsure now.

    ryll: Hmm you're right about Takasu and the shifting of affection (Never really thought about it much), still have a hard time seeing him as realistic compared to the others. But on the crush thing I can agree on but guess I would have liked it if there were more hints of affection for Minorin in his actions or if he thought of her more since it seemed he had her on his mind all the time before the show.
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    It's pretty much the same.. two-faced can mean that you are hypocritical or deceitful

    but I think "hypocrite" is really the better definition here, however two-faced is most likely right too.

    edit: two-faced
    adj.
    1. Having two faces or surfaces.
    2. Hypocritical or double-dealing; deceitful.

    so two-faced seems to be the "more negative" definition or something, but you better ask someone who is good in english ^^
    However, I believe the first definition "Having two faces or surfaces" describes Minorin pretty good.
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    Oh god, this one sucked balls... everyone was unrealistic nice towards them and what the hell is this " I want to marry you" shit about.

    I hoped it would turn out a bit more decent.. well let's see what the last 2(?) episodes bring, let's hope they realise how stupid and naive they are. I wasn't far away from dropping this series in this episode.

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    I didnt get the bit about Ryuujis grandparents...they wanted to go to Ami´s villa, so what now?

    Also, i dont think there´ll ever be an episode where i dont hate Kushieda. The way she cheered for him when he was chasing after Taiga annoyed me so much.

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    How dare he talk like that to Yasuko!

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    Indeed, even made her cry. :-(

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    lol. wut?

    how did this situation turn from "lets confess to each other about something we've just recently understood about ourselves" to "lets get married, live under the bridge for two months, and then continue living under that bridge"?
    did I miss an episode or something? and where did this Yakuso bit come from? I can understand that it's possible, but bringing that plotline into the story three episodes to the end, and without previous implications of it?

    as for the watch, didn't they say it was given to her by one of her customers? isn't it a bit too late to introduce 3 family members (Taiga's mom, Ryuji's grandparents. are they Yakuso's folks or his dad's parents?). I was half terrified (and excited, of course), that Ryuuji's father might pop out and make an appearance.

    and still, screw Minorin. she's bitch that continues to force herself on others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    lol. wut?

    how did this situation turn from "lets confess to each other about something we've just recently understood about ourselves" to "lets get married, live under the bridge for two months, and then continue living under that bridge"?
    did I miss an episode or something? and where did this Yakuso bit come from? I can understand that it's possible, but bringing that plotline into the story three episodes to the end, and without previous implications of it?

    as for the watch, didn't they say it was given to her by one of her customers? isn't it a bit too late to introduce 3 family members (Taiga's mom, Ryuji's grandparents. are they Yakuso's folks or his dad's parents?). I was half terrified (and excited, of course), that Ryuuji's father might pop out and make an appearance.

    and still, screw Minorin. she's bitch that continues to force herself on others.
    Naw, the watch was Yasuko's dad or Ryuuji's grandfather. The first time he saw it, he was like "Is this my dad's?", but his mom was like naw, I stole that from my dad when I ran away. So the grandparents are Yasuko's grandparents I guess.

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    Best part in the whole episode



    From "too shy to confess i like her" to "lets get married"...

    No comments, i'll just wait to see if the next episode can somehow fix all the retardness

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    LOL... I haven't seen this thread in a while and I am surprised at all the bitching the latest episodes has caused.

    Funny. All this is loyal to the novel. The studio went as far as to animate the latest and final novel loyally, despite it just having been released ONE MONTH AGO.

    I at least like that.

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    now after seeing this .gif 20 times in a row I must say it's really funny how she tripped..

    she didn't even "trip" at all she just decided to BANG her head against the ground.. look at how she smashes her head downwards.. amazing! It's like she tries to make a special move or attack to destory the floor... and the more I watch this, the more I hope she can really do it the next time the .gift starts again.

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    Someone should write a fanfiction where Minorin gets a concussion from that fall and dies a painful death hooked on the machines while Ryu cheats on Taiga with Ami in the bed next to her

    In fact, give me 30 minutes and i'll come up with something

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    I dare someone to put in MK1's backward+C lower spin kick and make that gif complete.

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    Hmmm the ending was pretty good I guess. I'm more than just happy that they saw each other again in the end, it really saved the mood.
    Everything else would have been extremely stupid imho.
    (I didn't really understand why she left in the first place btw..totally unecessary)

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