Tits >>> PersonalityOriginally Posted by animus
Tits >>> Personality
Nothing beats the annoyance that Kushieda is. GODAMMIT, what the hell is she talking about ghosts?!? Everything that comes out of her mouth is pure crap.
The fact that Ami took her ghost-bullshit serious for a few seconds wasnt great, either.
Aaand Ryuuji being passive sucks. If he had just hugged Taiga once she was in front of his door, everything could have been resolved. "Taiga,....i love you" - "Ryuuji...." - "LetŽs have dinner together, everyday from now on" - "What are you talking about, stupid do-" - *kisses her*
Though, of course, a series-ending with Ryuuji-Ami-couple would be 100 times better.
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honestly, Kushieda is such an annoyance. plus, Ryuuji can't even go to a restuarant without meeting her. it can really get irritating that she doesn't have a fixed work place.
before the OP, I was really worried that the entire episode is going to be a 'what if Taiga was actually dead\never existed' episode that's going to make ryuuji figure out how much he cares for her and how she changed his life. luckily, it wasn't.
Ryuuji is really being a passive pussy about this thing. he could have at least tried to make real contact with Taiga (it's not hard to find someone, even if they don't have a cellphone battery), and the part with taiga being away was completely unnecessary, so was the entire bit with Ryuuji going\not-going to collage and his mom getting a minimum wage work (unlike her job as a hostess, which pays rather good, and fits her schedule and personality much better than being a store helper), we ditched the school angle of the story 20 episodes ago, why go back to it now?
Ami is still my favorite, she was willing to give Minorin a chance to explain herself, but got totally mad when Minorin treated her like one of the stupid classmates. and she's quite right to resent Ryuuji for being such an idiot, not to mention that it's probably the only way for her to get over him.
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Anyone cared to analyse why Ami loves that place beetween vending machines so much?
Because they are alike in a way?
Should it be ecchi, or hentai, I'd go as far as slot machine, but no, I like that character so I'll stop now.
Why is Ryuuji so unaware, well he's a teenager so he doesn't know himself that much, and others -even more if they're girls- it's even worse.
Should he just try to play a little, some girls would fall for him and he could start and understand how it works to be in a relationship/flirt and move forward. But I guess he's "likable" only thanks to Taiga.
After all, no one mentions his looks anymore, he's got girls around playing/talking with/to him. All of this happened only because he's with Taiga, at least that's what I think.
So in the end this glowing effect is just that, and doesn't help him muster the courage to really go for a girl.
Minorin's case:
Minorin is a coward or anything you want, but Ryuuji never really proposed, he stopped before telling anything. It wasn't Minorin's fault, should he be more determined, he'd have found a way to corner her and tell her.
She's running away because she knows she won't be able to resist if Ryuuji really proposes her. She's also running away because Ryuuji's resolve isn't strong enough and she fears Ryuuji doesn't like her enough. After all, should she accept, she needs to be deeply in love with him, and he should be the same to her so that she doesn't regret taking Ryuuji from Taiga.
I guess that should it end with a couple, that would be Ryuuji/Taiga because they insisted on it and because their relationship is the richest/most advanced.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Uhh...how many times do we need to go over this? Every single time he attempts to confess to her, she cuts him off intentionally and then refuses to allow him to continue. The one time he was absolutely determined to confess to her, Minorin basically said, "Shut up! [something random]. I'm leaving before you can try again." How exactly is this not her fault? He wasn't allowed to say a word because if he began speaking again, she'd already be halfway down the street!
Ryuuji didn't stop. Kushieda cut him off.
You can not defend her actions during that scene. She's a stupid bitch who wants it both ways. Kushieda knows exactly how much Ryuuji likes her, but she won't allow him to say it because she's deluded into thinking that as long as she doesn't let him confess that they can still be friends. Ami keeps trying to tell everyone (mostly Ryuuji) that you can't have it both ways, and Taiga knows it too, which is why she's been trying to separate herself from Ryuuji. Kushieda is the only one who doesn't get this.
Kushieda is trying to still be friends with everyone, but the way she's going about it won't allow for anyone to resolve anything.
I hated her even more after this episode. She's trying the same shit with Ami now, trying to make peace and be friends as if nothing ever happened. Things like what happened between the two of them on the ski trip are incidents that can never be unsaid.
BTW, Yasuko is the greatest bimbo-mother ever. She cares a lot for him, and has an endless faith in her offspring.
MFauli: Wait what you really didn't get why she talked about ghosts? Well obviously Ami doesn't have a clue on why she went on about ghosts but we should. Incase you forgot that's what she talked about with Ryuuji at Amis villa.
boo: Uhhh so it's her fault for having a part time job at a place that Ryuuji happens to visit even though neither knew the other would be there? Besides might remember this part wrong but didn't they stated early on that she hops around jobs a lot.
Wait Ami gave Minorin a chance to explain herself? I don't see how she gave her any chance at that whatsoever. If she really wanted to give her that chance then first of all she wouldn't have brought up all the stuff infront of the other girls just an ep ago that was a poor choice. Secondly we know that Minorin uses ghosts and stuff like that as an analogy and has been using for quite some time, how exactly is that treating Ami as an stupid classmate? Minorin was at least trying to tell her something in all seriousness and Ami is the one that walked away. That's hardly what I'd call giving someone a chance to explain something.
Thinking back on it if Ami had talked to Minorin in a normal way without the rest of the girls there and asked about it there would probably have been more of a chance she would have answered instead of getting mad at her. After all Minorin hasn't been hostile against Ami not to mention Minorins gotten several advices from Ami so it's not exactly unthinkable that she'd tell her the truth. But then there'd be no chick fights and drama.
Edit: Ohh and to the new negrep, that doesn't tell me one bit about what in the other post was incoherent. Since that was what I was asking about not what was incoherent in that last post. And so "Anyway and that's not normal?" isn't a sentence? Thought it was a question my bad.
Last edited by fireheart; Fri, 03-06-2009 at 07:03 PM.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
of course, i remembered that. ItŽs still beyond stupid, because a) Ami doesnt know what KushiedaŽs talking about at all, b) itŽs stupid ghosts! I mean, it was stupid back then when she brought that topic up before Ryuuji, you know.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
I like how Minorin goes from saying "I'll come and save you whenever youre in trouble" to grabbing her hand and yelling at her in a matter of two minutes.
This was scary, I expected someone to die right there or something, lol.. really.
Minorin had such a scary face.
not to mention the tentacle hair scene.
time for another nice boat ending!
I say the weapon is a baseball bat.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Fri, 03-13-2009 at 08:12 AM.
The animation kind of sucked in this episode. Everyone was a lot more angular and more slender than usual.
Ami's a coward too...and that makes me sad.
well, at least Ami is consistent with what she's doing. she wants to make things happen, even if it means she won't be getting Takasu.
she's completely mirroring Minorin in her actions, but without being two faced about it.
Minorin, of course, is a loose cannon. sure, when she hid the truth and avoided people whenever she didn't like the situation, it was good and fine, but now, when someone doesn't want to talk about something right now and right here, now that warrants a violent response.
she's a complete bitch.
last thing, is anemia such a big deal in japan? whatever anime I watch, there's always someone who faints due to anemia or catching a cold. I know it's for dramatic effects, but still, it happens too many times for it to be just that.
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LOL, wth
Taiga´s reaction at the end was totally overdone. "OH MY GOD, THE PERSON I LOVE IS GOING TO HEAR THAT I LOVE HIM, OH NO, I HAVE TO KILL MYSELF!" lol
Okay episode, though it sucks that Ami has, seemingly, given up on Takasu.
Not trying to argue here but how is Minorin two faced?
Maybe I'm wrong but thought she got angry/violent because of what Takasu did and in which case I found it totally acceptable.
Last thing I'll ever use to argue for Minorin because it's really this one point that made her a good character imo. Even if she's a coward or whatever people think she is, to me that makes her realistic and prefer she's like that then being some kind of perfect human that does everything right. They all misunderstand each other from time to time, fail in communication, makes mistakes, gets angry etc etc and I find it normal.
Thinking about it the only one I don't like much in the whole show is Takasu, one reason is that while I feel that all the girls are somewhat realistic I can't feel that from Takasu. Also never really liked how he claimed to love Minorin but dropped next to everything to help Taiga and be there for her even on the night that he was going to confess to Minorin. Makes it seem as if Minorin wasn't really important to him since he had Taiga on his mind well almost all the time that we've seen. Basically his feelings felt like they mount up to nothing maybe that's why I don't feel sorry for him after he got dumped.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
Don't forget that Takasu and Taiga's relationship began because of mutual agreement to help the other out because the objects of their crushes were the other's best friend. Then because they are working closely together, everyone misunderstands and thinks the two of them are suddenly going out, everything backfires, then it all works out as originally intended, only for the two of them to realize they fell in love when it's almost too late. Pretty standard Hollywood teen-movie or shoujo-manga material, we've all seen it a million times.
He did love Minorin at first, but as Ami has correctly identified multiple times in the past, Takasu and Minorin were playing house with Taiga. Takasu became a father figure to her, feeding her, taking care of her, et cetera, especially after he found out what an asshole her real father was. Minorin had been doing the same since she found out about Taiga's father.
Minorin was important to him, but proximity often breeds affection, and so Takasu slowly, inexorably, shifted to Taiga. He's too dumb to realize it, and Taiga was too dumb to realize it until she almost had Kitamura, and now she wants to deny it.
He had a crush on Minorin. Nothing more. Crushes fade, and he has finally started to realize it. The problem after that was what Ami mentioned. Does he really love Taiga, or is he still just playing house? Minorin eventually figured it out and tried to reject it (because she is still playing house, and likes it that way), and Ami started to like him herself, but became bitter because she felt others were interfering with her chances and she tried to make Takasu figure out whether he really liked Taiga or not. If not, Ami would probably have swept in, but she's a coward herself. That tangled mess created the strife we now find ourselves watching.
Takasu is just as realistic as the others, it is just sort of in the background because of how gradual fading crushes always are.
What I hate about Minorin is that she tells Taiga to confess her feelings and even screams at her for hidng them, yet she does/did the exact same thing. She loves Takasu but doesn't confess.
She is telling Taiga that she wants to create her own "happiness"/future or whatever., yet she does the same thing as her again and cares more about Taiga's happiness than her own.
Then she gets totally angry at Takasu for lying and ignoring Taigas feelings, yet (again) she did the exact same thing when Takasu tried to confess to her all the time...
She's like a drug addict, telling other people to stop taking drugs because it's illegal and they suffer from doing so.
Minorin should be the last person on earth to tell others what to do in this case... at least in such a aggressive way. And I wouldn't say she has "experienced" such mistakes before and wants to warn Taiga, because I doubt that she realized the mistakes she has done yet
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sat, 03-14-2009 at 02:41 PM.
krayz: I know you weren't the one that said Minorin was a two faced person but just a question. Am I mixing up my English because that seems like a hypocrite more than two faced. Then again I'm not 100% sure on how a two faced person is because always thought that was something more akin to a backstabbing person but kinda unsure now.
ryll: Hmm you're right about Takasu and the shifting of affection (Never really thought about it much), still have a hard time seeing him as realistic compared to the others. But on the crush thing I can agree on but guess I would have liked it if there were more hints of affection for Minorin in his actions or if he thought of her more since it seemed he had her on his mind all the time before the show.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
It's pretty much the same.. two-faced can mean that you are hypocritical or deceitful
but I think "hypocrite" is really the better definition here, however two-faced is most likely right too.
edit: two-faced
adj.
1. Having two faces or surfaces.
2. Hypocritical or double-dealing; deceitful.
so two-faced seems to be the "more negative" definition or something, but you better ask someone who is good in english ^^
However, I believe the first definition "Having two faces or surfaces" describes Minorin pretty good.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Sat, 03-14-2009 at 05:52 PM.
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