Fresh off the presses guys. Enjoy
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/01/
Fresh off the presses guys. Enjoy
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/01/
Hell yeah!!! Finally!!!!! Pain / Pein is going to crush Konoha...
Naruto looks like he is cosplaying Gaara...
Well this was quite the chapter:
- No complains now i assume, Naruto's Sage Mode looks quite good
- He seems to be developing a new jutsu, with any luck it won't be just another rasengan
- There seems to be more to the code than we originally thought. That's good, it's less retarded that way.
- Pain is in Konoha, Tsunade's a goner .
Criticism:
- It's good we're actually seeing Naruto excel at something but jesus fucking christ Kishi why is it always either all or nothing with you? Naruto has pretty much sucked all through shippuden and all of a sudden he's surpassed both kakashi and Jiraya just like that, it just doesn't feel natural.
- Wtf was up with that genjutsu brain defense? And why was that weird dude analyzing some sort of naruto clone?
I dont think that Kishi would kill of Tsundae just yet, I did like the sage mode, and it is good that things are finally coming together as Pain is arriving. Next couple chapters could be really good or really drawn out. Guess we will have to wait and find out...
And I second you on the brain jutsu defense, seems kind of out there, and to waste that many cells to basically tell us that the guy that was chasing Killer Bee is dead was pointless. I assumed that he was dead....
assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense
Natural? It doesn't make any sense and there is absolutely no explanation for it either. We are supposed to believe that Naruto surpassed Kakashi, which is just plain untrue, sure in regards to raw power Naruto would be better than Kakashi but that was always true. Then we are supposed to believe that Naruto by creating his wind rasengan supposedly surpassed the fourth thats bull. First of all why wasn't the fourth able to finish his technique, not only is he way more talented that Naruto but I'm sure he could use shadow clones too so what gives.Originally Posted by The Archangel
Then we get to the weirdest part after sitting in some toad oil for a few days we're supposed to believe Naruto surpassed Jiraiya, but there is nothing to explain why Naruto would be better at this than Jiraiya was, in fact everything would suggest that Jiraiya is way better than Naruto, including the fact that Jiraiya was training for years.
Oh yeah this was a stupid freaking cocktease. I just hope we don't see anymore of Naruto for awhile, or ever again if possible, and Pain does some serious damage next chapter to make up for all this crap.
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The unconscious guy was one of the rain-nins that Jiraiya captured in that frog, and the guy doing the brain-scan is Inozuma(?), Ino's dad....cause, you know....their family's jutsus revolve around invading the enemy's conscious...
I get the feeling Naruto is trying to learn how to use the wind rasengan without damaging his body.
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Abdula: While I agree its bull saying Naruto surpassing the 4th, the reason Minato was not able to 'finish' the jutsu was because he was not wind natural... but on that matter... why couldn't he just add another nature chackra?
I'm totally cool with this. You are what you are, your talents are what they are. When they say Naruto surpassed Kakashi, the Fourth, and Jiraiya, I don't take it to mean that he's now a better fighter than any of them. That doesn't quite make sense. I take it to mean he's done things they either failed to do, or could not do to begin with. Buying that Naruto is talented with respect to sage techniques...why not. It's a new element in the story, and it's an opportunity to give Naruto something he actually excels at. That he's better than Jiraiya at it...why not. Jiraiya's talented at those things he's talented at, and Sage Techniques aren't among those things. I mean, it is what it is.
As far as Minato not being able to complete the jutsu, there might two reasons. Either he just plain couldn't for lack of power or control of chakra or whatever, or, if he could, he just couldn't do it as fast as Naruto, and died before he succeeded. There's no real mystery here.
God...4 edits before I got this right...I need sleep.
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Naruto's sage mode face looks really weird, and not the good, creative type of weird, just weird. (also, sage mode sounds like ~godmode quake cheat).
also, it seems like he doesn't even need regan abilities, since now he's also imprevious to forms of harm. perfect. (couldn't he just summon an army of toads with the sage chackra? an awesome feat of skill and strength that doesn't involve making an idiot out of him?)
did it surprise someone that Q-ball is dead? I thought it was pretty much self-explained last chapter. at least we now know that the cloud ninja is called Jin, if he ever gets a real part.
Naruto sage fighting style... I can't really say anything, those dots probably mean something, maybe 'exit holes' from where he sucks out natural chackra?
Payne: code, genjutsu, autopsy, attack. I don't believe this is really going to happen, seems kinda early for that.
and I'd like to join my vote in saying "WTF" about Naruto becoming the uber jedi ninja.
HECK, someone has to do it. it's begging for it.
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I completely agree with you. Thats the way I see it too but Kishi seems to be trying to suggest otherwise, I mean what was the entire Hidan-Kakuzu arc if not Kishi just trying to tell us Naruto is now better than Kakashi.
Yeah I agree but again thats not the way Kishi makes it seem.and died before he succeeded. There's no real mystery here.
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Well, what was the difference between Naruto during the Save Gaara! arc, and Naruto during the Kakuzu/Hidan arc? From what we've seen, it was a wind rasengan. The wind rasengan requires the same conditions as a regular rasengan to work. You basically have to somehow make it to your opponen't face, and ram it down their throats.
So, lets take Naruto, and instead of putting him up against Kakuzu, put him up against Deidara. Lets let him have his wind rasengan. Unless he summons the demon, Naruto'll be dead before Deidara breaks a sweat, depending on the location of the fight. If we assume something like the area they were in when Naruto and Kakashi were chasing Deidara, Naruto's COMPLETELY fucked. No way to attack Deidara, because deidara flies and Naruto doesn't, nor does he have long range attacks at all, let alone ones that Deidara wouldn't laugh at. Also, he'd have nowhere to hide from Deidara's attacks, and I doubt he could dodge them forever. Kakashi on the other hand, is extremely close to being able to hand deidara his ass on a platter, if he's not there already.
Basically, it seems to be, as has been mentioned to death over the years, a rock/paper/scissors type thing. Naruto's wind Rasengan combine with Kagebunshin was simply a good combo against his particular opponent. Kakuzu wasn't airbound, and while he was a midrange fighter, Naruto's kagebunshins were a means by which the distance could be closed. Combined with a little bit of cleverness for the second attack, Naruto was able to use a technique that dealt with all of Kakuzu's hearts, and thus lives.
Oh, but wait, can't believe I forgot this. Kakashi wasn't at 100%. I'm pretty sure, the same thing he used to ruin deidara's shit, would've ruined Kakuzu's shit even worse, seeing as his escape abilities are likely less effective than Deidara's (I admit this is a conclusion I reached based on the style of the characters, not by a comparison of their escape abilities). So really, who's to say kakashi couldn't have handled Kakuzu if he hadn't just fought Deidara?
It seems to me those things were all about showing Naruto's progress with respect to the quality of villains in the story, and not the quality of his allies.
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Last edited by Uchiha Barles; Fri, 09-26-2008 at 06:59 PM.
If Kakashi was 100%, he and Yamato could have handled Kakuku and Hidan. I just don't like that surpassed is being thrown around so much, gives people the wrong idea.
I thought you were going to get some sleep?
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All I can say is that I'm liking this new Naruto Sage mode. As for his speed at becoming good at it, damn I say he is WELL overdue at being good at something that's not a one shot wonder. He now actually has a theme to develop his fighting style around.
And I don't think that Justu he used was the wind rasengan. I think it was that mystery jutsu that he and Jiraiya kept referring to (can't remember the reference for this). Naruto is finally showing signs of being a worthy main character in a fighting manga.
im glad that they gave naruto something he's good at. The one thing i feel kinda annoyed by is the fact that they acknowledged that hidan was immortal and left it there. It was basically like kishi said "they were immortal but get over it cuz they're gone!". I dont like the way that was just swept under a rug. whatever though at least we'll get to see some konaha ninja flex in the next ch.
I like to think that the problem wasn't that he couldn't complete it, but that he didn't have time to do so. He created the jutsu completely by himself and if i'm not mistaken that took quite some time and before he could completely master it the kyuubi showed up.
Also i assume that Jiraya stayed with the frogs for quite some time while naruto surpassed all his efforts in about 1 week or so... that shit alone makes my head hurt.
I just hope we get 100% pain from now on and we don't start getting 50% pain plus 50% sasuke team vs cloud-nin. I hope kishi focuses his efforts on 1 battle instead of jumping around.
Edit: Dam! I advise everyone to read the new naruto scanlation on onemanga. That last one must have been incredibly shitty because this one is way easier to understand and even changes my opinion on the chapter a bit.
Last edited by Archangel; Sat, 09-27-2008 at 08:50 AM.
I agree about Hermit mode. It's nice to see Naruto be talented at something, instead of being the permanent flunky that he used to be. And we saw that Sage mode is pretty sweet during Jiraiya's fight.
I kind of hope Naruto's new move is a complete version of the Rasengan too. Jiraiya's giant Rasengan against Pein is pretty cool. I joked about this before, but Naruto really needs to figure out how to make giant Kyuubi-hate Wind element chakra filled blobs come out of his hands.
^ I hope his new move has nothing to do with Rasengan. He needs to create his own jutsu's and stop building off ones, that other people created.
he learns the most awesome physical skill of them all, and first thing he does is fall down from the cliff.
yes, not flunky at all.
which could be completely avoided, if the rashurigan was actually a Krillin energy disc, like what it looks like.
Kishi has a good habit of shooting his own leg, he knows to choose the worst option for any given chance.
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I still have no idea why he named it the rasenshuriken and Naruto can't throw it. You would think it would be a no-brainer.
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He's probably saving it for later, it may in fact be the "new move" naruto seems to be developing. God i hope not...
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